The portal.
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@BShark said in The portal.:
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
Isn’t the revenue sharing more or less about to put a salary cap on things?
Maybe. Supposedly. Depends on outside revenue streams. I’m not sure if NIL will 100% fall under that umbrella or if it’s just a second pot of gold for the players. 20.5 mil for all sports in total seems like less than is being spent currently.
NIL deals will have to be cleared by the NCAA now going forward. Has to be “legitimate” like the kid actually does something for the money. Makes an appearance etc
This is why scholarship athletes could never have a job. Somebody would pay them 5k to “sweep the floor”. There would have been fake jobs and the NCAA doesn’t have the resources to police it. Then you get sob stories from players/coaches like Ostertag and Roy Williams about how poor Greg couldn’t work and he was married with a child. No mention that he has free college which would help a ton of non-students. Also, creating a sob story about a 7’ guy who was obviously going to have an NBA career was stupid.
The average American IQ drops every five years, so the average person can’t extrapolate why rules are in place.
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Be interesting to know if w have made any kind of contact with Lendelborg from UAB or not.-- -At this point and time they have him listed as the # one portal. 6’9 --240 forward Some pretty impressive stats
Or here is a Combo Guard to go along with Darryn- - -Silas Demary Jy good size for a Guard 6’5 195 Combo Guard-- -shot over 37 % from the three-- – driver averaged 4.8 Free Throw attempts per -Wonder if w reached out-- Rated as the # Two player right now
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@SlimShaddy54 Yaxel getting a first round grade a lot of places so there would be a risk he stays in the draft. Would take him though otherwise.
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@MR11 Ya I would take him in a minute- --mercy. - -Found an interesting combo guard 6’6 Silas Demary - ove 37 % from the three and draws good amount of fouls on opposition – averages right at 5 attempts per game - would fit nice with DP and they have him ranked the number TWO rated player in the portal at present
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I watched pretty much every game of Rice and Gillespie at Maryland, both guards, and both of whom are in the portal.
They were fantastic and explosive.
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Salary caps in pro leagues only are allowed because they have been negotiated in collective bargaining. Any effort to control the money athletes can get by having an NCAA impose a salary cap will run into the same problems as when they imposed a cap of zero. The system will only start working when schools accept that athletes are labor, and treat them accordingly.
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@BigBad Back when athletes could work, fraud was pretty common in that an athlete would take a job with a boosters business, not do any work or even show up and still get paid.
The Ostertag story is a good one because while yes, he had an NBA future, that doesn’t mean that his kid didn’t have immediate needs while Ostertag wasn’t allowed to earn an income and needed handouts that could’ve been considered NCAA violations.
The old system of players not being allowed to work was absolute bullshit and pure exploitation. People talk about athletes getting free room and board along with tuition like athletes are the only people on campus receiving those things. How many other kids on a college campus also get free rides through academic and financial needs based scholarships? At a place like KU, I’m sure that number is in the thousands. Are any of those kids restricted from having a job as a condition of their scholarship while they focus solely on whatever their major is? No, those kids are allowed to have jobs earn money beyond what their scholarships pay so why shouldn’t athletes be allowed to do what every other group of students on a college campus are allowed to do?
Does the current model need tweaking? Absolutely, but the notion that an athlete that helps generate millions of dollars for a school shouldn’t be allowed to do what every other group on a campus can do and earn extra income through a job is a garbage take IMO.
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Darryn Petterson MVP for the West winning McD AA game. He has size, really runs the floor and will go the rack.
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Darryn Peterson on last years team…
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@approxinfinity ehh still had a plodding Hunter. Dejuan isn’t fast but it seems he went extra slow for Hunter. Dickinson had a huge influence in the roster construction and the pace of play. Next year will be different.
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Keyshawn Hall to Auburn. I know some here will be disappointed in that, but I personally don’t think he would’ve been a great fit in Self’s motion offense. We’ll see what happens with Dix, but sounding like he may not end up here either. That would be a much bigger blow than Hall IMO.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I can live without Hall but I am still a little mad at BShark for promising that he would be a Jayhawk
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@dylans said in The portal.:
@approxinfinity ehh still had a plodding Hunter. Dejuan isn’t fast but it seems he went extra slow for Hunter. Dickinson had a huge influence in the roster construction and the pace of play. Next year will be different.
To be determined!
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AJ has entered the portal.
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Go get me some dawgs
We had too many pretty boys like Jamari Traylor said last year. I can deal with losing but not cause we were getting out toughed. Those Houston losses still piss me off
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@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
Go get me some dawgs
We had too many pretty boys like Jamari Traylor said last year. I can deal with losing but not cause we were getting out toughed. Those Houston losses still piss me off
Honestly shocked by most guys Bill has brought in have been obvious personality clashes.
More Diggy/Shak Moore type personalties. Not undersized guards, but guys who play their asses off. Or change your coaching style to have a longer leash. Can’t do what we’ve been doing for sure.
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I’m spacing on the timing for last year’s portal signings. When can we expect to make additions and not subtractions?
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@rockchalkjayhawk soon come
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@TYOHawk E - - X – A - -C - -T - L - -Y ! ! get a couple of bruisers, mix it up, players that love contact and drive looking for contact . Kina like ol time Daryl Dawkins ( Choclate Thunder was his nick name )
He said when he went up for a flush/slam don’t gt in my way because that is MY TIME-- need those kind of players, guys that can out tough you Physical- or players even like Christan, guys that play with some edge , cockiness to them , some one who can talk the stuff and yet who has game to back it up- – No more tippy toe , emotionless that just show notjing
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk E - - X – A - -C - -T - L - -Y ! ! get a couple of bruisers, mix it up, players that love contact and drive looking for contact . Kina like ol time Daryl Dawkins ( Choclate Thunder was his nick name )
He said when he went up for a flush/slam don’t gt in my way because that is MY TIME-- need those kind of players, guys that can out tough you Physical- or players even like Christan, guys that play with some edge , cockiness to them , some one who can talk the stuff and yet who has game to back it up- – No more tippy toe , emotionless that just show notjing
For the first time in decades…opposing teams came in the Phog and weren’t afraid. It was a rough season
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Riddle me this - why is that we’ve had most of the team without remaining eligibility enter the portal, but we haven’t yet gotten anyone from the portal??? Several of the top 50 or so portal guys have already committed - St. Johns, Baylor and Michigan have 2 each from the top 50 ranked. Why are they able to reload so quickly, and we are still on the side-line?
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@DCHawker I’ve read that the staff are being more intentional with their picks looking for a better fit and if the ask on NIL is too high, then on to the next one. That is why AJ entered the portal.
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We could use a commit for morale purposes
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Hell next thing we know our student Mgr’s and water boys & equipment mgr’s will be hitting the portal
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Heard Zion’s brother is still available -
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/gtunln/bodybuilder_basketball_player/
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@DCHawker Because we’re not KANSAS anymore. We’re Kansas. Nobody is intimidated, nobody particularly wants to play here unless they have some obscure ties to the University or this part of the Midwest.
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Last year we weren’t even Kansas. We were kansas.
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Famous Quote " All good things must pass "
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There is something to that. And it’s not all about NIL and the portal. I think some of it is the times and youth are not into traditions like they used to be.
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
Famous Quote " All good things must pass "
Last year reminded me of a different saying. lol
Beans, beans, the musical fruit. The more you eat the more you toot…
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What did i miss the last 5 days or so?? Anything fun?
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@BeddieKU23 The whole team left and now everyone is panicing because they think we won’t land anyone in the portal.
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@patoh3 said in The portal.:
@DCHawker I’ve read that the staff are being more intentional with their picks looking for a better fit and if the ask on NIL is too high, then on to the next one. That is why AJ entered the portal.
Hhmm - so the other teams aren’t doing their diligence and just taking flyers on their portal commits. Today, including UGA, which got a commit from Demary?
And, @nuleafjhawk even if we are now just Kansas, is that less than just Michigan, Baylor and St. Johns?
Seems like we are putting a lot of eggs in the Dix basket. Sure, he would be a good get, but that isn’t certain, and we need multiple starters.
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Don’t believe it’s been KANSAS since the injury to Jalen Wilson…
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History and tradition are things kids could care less about now - sad but a true reality
They want $ and a system to best prepare them for playing at the next level
We have the $ but hearing that’s drying up
The system we are currently lacking and no doubt negative recruiting is hurting us right now
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Yeah I got nothing…
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@dylans Roflmao , ya goof- - -been ages since I heard that
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@BeddieKU23 Not a dang thing.-- No commits-- - no sniffs— no Howdy Duties.
Yhe only ONE thing is – were not alone , there are at least four - -five others that are feeling the same pressure about getting kid yee haw
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So are we at a Defcon THREE yet in the worry room ?- - -I mean don’t look now Chester But I don’t think Marshall Dillon is coming through that door anytime soon to wrap some up.
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I would sure like to see us recruit Yaxel Lendoberg
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@Jhawk69 youth, he id nice – see if you know this one-- who is this Pharrel Payne I keep hearing KU is in the mi with.-- Got a zoom call set up/ You hear anything on him ?
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Not sure I should even mention the way things been going on the front but supposedly Tre White is very interested on KU. Heard also that again I guess things heating up with 2-3 players interested on KU and visa versa.
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@DCHawker Yes, it is less. None of those schools and most other schools have never had the prominence and “royalty” that KANSAS had.
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
Not sure I should even mention the way things been going on the front but supposedly Tre White is very interested on KU. Heard also that again I guess things heating up with 2-3 players interested on KU and visa versa.
Tre would inject this program with some much needed toughness.
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@BShark Go figure
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@TYOHawk Well we could use that
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk Well we could use that
Hoping he can be somewhat similar to Sion James from Duke.
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@TYOHawk That would be a quality pick up
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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
So are we at a Defcon THREE yet in the worry room ?- - -I mean don’t look now Chester But I don’t think Marshall Dillon is coming through that door anytime soon to wrap some up.
Hard to assess what the plan is. We’ve lost 6 players to the portal, including 2 ranked in 247s top 50 - and that was before Storr. If Flory doesn’t come back, we need at least 3 high-level starters - a big and some athletic wings who can shoot, penetrate and defend. Decreasing number of guys left who fit those needs. Every other top level program has commits already and predictions for others.
