Lots of speculating going on, with people thinking they can read minds. Let's all get mad and assume bad faith by a player who may well be in the midst of being far more frustrated than all of our fan-doctors.

@ROCKCHALK2025 As a judge for 19 years, I found the legal principal of requiring evidence to draw conclusions applies pretty well to analyzing everything in life. In other words, speculation alone isn't probative. But speculation can generate theories about things, but theories without evidence are pretty hollow, so best usually to wait for actual facts.

@wissox83 said in Kansas Jayhawks vs Towson Tigers Game Chat Tue. 12/16 8:00 CT:

Ran 5 miles saturday on the treadmill.

Just saw this. 5 miles on a treadmill...and you find some KU games boring?

@BeddieKU23 said in Kansas Jayhawks vs Davidson Wildcats Game Chat Mon. 12/22 7:00 CT:

3pt defense has been our strength....

It seems to me that we haven't seen this comment all that often in past years!

Pretty sad. I mean, e hasn't even tried the old Squeaky routine about how KSU "tries harder" despite losing.

I think what we are seeing with DP is that his legs are strong enough to play half a game, but his injuries all season make him vulnerable. No one can possibly say the guy who leads Div 1 in first half scoring isn't giving it his all. But doing that comes at a cost of injuries. Taking himself out might be what Self wants him to do to avoid worse injuries and total unavailability down the line, a la Embiid.

@Tallturd1 said in Darryn Peterson:

just media types doing what they think makes themselves sound knowledgeable

Just like people on this Board all season thinking they can infer facts from the lack of information. I read the CBS guy's article. He has never before seen a discussion between an AD and an agent in a game so therefore it must be...X. Could be any other letter in the alphaber, but no, X is a big conspiracy so it must be true.

@wissox83 We actually were undefeated after 2 games (I had thought it was midseason).

So, this confirms what we all knew: Missouri is the first step down on the stairway to Hell.

@ROCKCHALK2025 I remember somewhere in my past...maybe back when having several physical therapists in a friend group...learning that muscles in opposition to injured muscles can get stressed. Similar to how favoring one leg with a sprained ankle or knee can make the other leg work extra. Or cause abnormal movement--for example, Dizzy Dean came back too soon from a leg injury, changed how he landed with his foward foot, and messed up his other leg.

If DP tries to keep his hamstrings loose with extra stretching, that seems like the quads could be getting tighter. I know the worst neck cramps I ever had were alleviated only after heat and massage on the opposite side--that side was really tight but not painful. The side that was hurting was resisting the tightness.

Might mean it's not so weird.

Occurs to me that this looks like our 3rd straight off-season where Rice's availability at season opening may be in question. Domestic assault, allegedly, and no resolution announced yet. These things affect out depth chart, FA decisions, and draft strategy. Time to bail, I think.

KU's past is as checkered as any "northern" school. Here is an article with Prof Bill Tuttle discussing the subject in 2014: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://flatlandkc.org/news-issues/separate-equal-ku-professor-explores-universitys-complicated/&ved=2ahUKEwiyzPnix8WSAxWymSYFHSjkFB4QFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0dY-Ad0D-wlGo7tgSBQ_CW. (Tuttle was my prof for my history senior thesis in 1978...loved that guy!)

Here is an article about John McClendon, a Hall of Fame coach denied the opportunity to play at KU in the '30s because blacks weren't allowed to play until 1951: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McLendon

Is Flory's outside game good emough for the NBA? Dok never managed to develop one and seems GMs want outside shooting threats.

@bshark You can probably rebound better than a few centers KU has had.

Hold out for a couple mil in NIL, though.

@approxinfinity LOL...Have some coffee!

@ROCKCHALK2025 As a judge for 19 years, I found the legal principal of requiring evidence to draw conclusions applies pretty well to analyzing everything in life. In other words, speculation alone isn't probative. But speculation can generate theories about things, but theories without evidence are pretty hollow, so best usually to wait for actual facts.

Nagy hired as OC by NY Giants. Does this rehab his reputation a bit? I've read so many comments on Athletic about Reid pulling the rug out from under him and ruining any chance of Nagy ever getting another coaching job. Guess the great unwashed masses not as smart as they think.

Now, it IS true that going to NYG could break him and send him to an asylum, but hopefully not.

@Tallturd1 said in Darryn Peterson:

just media types doing what they think makes themselves sound knowledgeable

Just like people on this Board all season thinking they can infer facts from the lack of information. I read the CBS guy's article. He has never before seen a discussion between an AD and an agent in a game so therefore it must be...X. Could be any other letter in the alphaber, but no, X is a big conspiracy so it must be true.

@JoJoAndMe said in Darryn Peterson:

And it's interesting that no one notices him hobbling / limping before he takes himself out of a game.

Does the coach count? Self said he saw him moving differently in warm ups and asked if he was ok to go.

I think what we are seeing with DP is that his legs are strong enough to play half a game, but his injuries all season make him vulnerable. No one can possibly say the guy who leads Div 1 in first half scoring isn't giving it his all. But doing that comes at a cost of injuries. Taking himself out might be what Self wants him to do to avoid worse injuries and total unavailability down the line, a la Embiid.

@nuleafjhawk Yep, getting injured is precisely the same as getting suspended, potentially twice.