@truehawk93 KU doesn’t have to be the best team in the tournament, just the better team on floor 6 times.

@loyolstud88 Blue blood killer is cute, come back when you beat one.

@Kcmatt7 Self knows exactly how to coach young guards. They just don’t become finished products right away. Mason and Graham each took until their third years to become elite guards.

KU and Beaty need to do everything in their power to keep Tony Hull because as long as he’s at KU, that pipeline KU now has into New Orleans is going to stay open until for KU until Hull is no longer here. Louisiana is just an entirely different culture from the rest of the country and these guys aren’t joking about the family atmosphere having a huge influence on their decisions. I know @wissox and anyone else including myself who have spent a significant portion of time in Louisiana will 100% back up this claim about the loyalty of Louisiana people being accurate and Hull has the loyalty of HS coaches and players all over the New Orleans area specifically.

Landing Tyriek Starks was the beginning. The connection with Hull was made during this recruitment because Starks played at Warren Easton under Hull. Reggie Mitchell then leaves for Arkansas and KU has a need for a new RB coach. Beaty takes a calculated risk by bringing in Hull in an attempt to get some players out of Louisiana. Almost immediately, Hull gets commitments from Mike Lee and Malik Clark (Clark is also from Warren Easton) and then gets Lee to enroll a year early at KU. In his 1st year, Hull also lands Travis Jordan and Takulve Williams both from the New Orleans area as well. In a little over a year on the job, Hull brings in 4 Louisiana players, one of whom gets a chance to play early. Getting players from Louisiana to visit KU is a big enough deal which hiring Hull allowed KU to at least talk to players in Louisiana. Seeing Mike Lee emerge on the scene however is a game changer for KU in Louisiana. Without the success Mike Lee had last year, KU does not land any of the Louisiana recruits that committed yesterday, at least not early like they did. They probably go home and tell their younger teammates about how nice KU is and that keeps the line of communication open with Louisiana prospects for Tony Hull. Lee’s success is a game changer because it shows these kids that they can come in and be successful very early on at KU instead of having to sit and wait behind other 4 and 5 star guys at LSU.

If Daylon Charlot comes in and has early success and if Tyriek Starks wins the QB job, the floodgates will be fully open for KU to talk to any recruit in Louisiana they want to and to have a legitimate chance to sign those players as well.

What KU did yesterday in getting commitments from Jason and Harris (3rd and 4th best players in Louisiana with offers from LSU, Alabama, and basically everybody in the SEC) is something that has definitely caught a lot of people off guard including everyone who follows KU football. We knew Hull would allow KU to talk to some players out of Louisiana, but to actually land commitments from players the caliber of Jason and Harris is something I don’t even think Tony Hull thought was possible at this stage in the game.

Don’t be surprised to see KU land possibly 3, maybe even more recruits out of Louisiana this year. Warren Easton has a couple of 3 star prospects who we know Hull has a relationship with and there’s a DE out of Baton Rouge that KU is the favorite to land.

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TCU is significantly better than any 16 seed KU will face. Whatever league KU’s 16 seed comes out of, TCU is good enough to go undefeated in that league.

Lightfoot is also playing way out of position as well. He’s being forced into being a low post player on both ends of the floor when he’s never had that role before. The guy is a stretch 4 and is being exploited in major mismatches because he’s never guarded the position before.

Clay Young has been better on the defensive end because he was a post at his JuCo even at his size. He understands the role and what’s required of the role much better than Lightfoot does.

I’m not going to rip in Lightfoot for this because none of it is his fault. He didn’t make Coleby transfer, he didn’t make Whitman transfer, he didn’t make Preston sit out because of a car. We all know Lightfoot isn’t ready for this role, but he’s the only option at this point.

This situation is why Self is trying to get DeSousa enrolled early and it’s why Sosinski was added to the team. KU needs to work on developing Sosinski over the next 3 weeks which KU only has 3 games during that stretch. Work him into the rotation this week, let him make his debut against Nebraska, give him some big minutes against Omaha as a trial run, and if that goes well, let him sub for Azubuike against Stanford and see how that goes before Texas on the 29th.

If the Preston situation gets resolved in a positive manner by that time, then swap Sosinski out for Preston. Either way, KU needs to find a way to get Lightfoot back to the stretch 4 spot because him as a low post player doesn’t work.

Graham absolutely willed this team to victory in the second half today. Really didn’t think this would happen about a month ago.

@Gorilla72 West Virginia is 8-9 this season. They are really bad team this year and they’re going to be without Konate again I believe so they won’t have any rim protection. This is Huggy’s worst team in a long time.

It’ll end up being Dotson eventually. His issue though is that he doesn’t have anyone to teach him how to be a leader at this level. That was also why Mason and Graham struggled early on as well.

When Self got here, he already had Aaron Miles who learned how to lead from Hinrich. Russell Robinson came in and learned from Miles how to be the leader. Robinson in turned showed Sherron Collins the ropes who then mentored Tyshawn Taylor. This is where the breakdown in that line happened. In 2010, KU landed Josh Selby and Royce Woolridge. Selby obviously had his issues and should’ve stayed another season at least. Woolridge was always a project player and never panned out. Woolridge was likely supposed to take the reigns from Taylor after the 2011-2012 season as either a junior or RS sophomore.

The 2011 class was a disaster because Self for whatever reason never had a plan for the Morris twins leaving early even though it wasn’t much of a secret that was a possibility. Still Self landed Naadir Tharpe out of that class after it became apparent Woolridge was never going to develop and Tharpe was supposed to be next after Taylor at the point. The transition from Taylor to Tharpe is where the line of PG’s at KU was broken because of Tharpe’s issues.

In 2012, KU didn’t land a PG and 2013 is when KU landed Mason who spent one year under Thapre who wasn’t a leader in any capacity and KU lost 10 games that year despite having Wiggins, Embiid, and Selden as well.

When Mason took over as a sophomore with Graham as a freshman, that’s when KU had was really hurt because Mason and Graham were having to learn for themselves how to lead a high level college basketball because they didn’t have anyone to mentor them. Mason was under Tharpe for a season, but when the guy who’s supposed to show you how to be a leader gets kicked off the team, Mason didn’t have anyone to teach him.

The 2015 class ended up a disaster with Diallo and Bragg not making it past year 2 (or 1 in Diallo’s case) along with Vick who might go down as the biggest disappointment among 4 players under Self along with Elijah Johnson (I don’t share you opinion on EJ and never will).

As Mason and Graham keep learning and getting better, there should’ve been another PG in either the 2016 or 2017 class to develop and take the reigns after Graham left in 2018, but it didn’t happen so Self had to get what he could which led to bringing in Charlie Moore in 2017 as a transfer and hoping he could land PG 2018 to develop. Obviously, Self landed Dotson in 2018 who’s the highest rated PG Self has landed since Sherron Collins and looks like he’ll be a great PG one day and already is the best freshman PG KU has had since Collins.

The problem though is Dotson doesn’t have a mentor to show him how to take control of his team. Dotson is learning on the job how to lead his team and there will be bumps along the way. KU lost 9 games in Mason’s first year as a starter. This group has 3 wins over current top 15 teams all on neutral courts so the potential is definitely there whenever the light comes on.

Hopefully this core comes back in tact next season and gets 3 years together because I could see a lineup in 2020-2021 of Dotson, Grimes, Agbaji, Garrett, and McCormack being a serious title threat. It’s also not unreasonable or unrealistic to see that line up in a couple of seasons with 4 juniors and a senior in the starting line up.

This group has huge upside, they just have to go through the same growing pains Mason and Graham and that group had to go through because there isn’t anyone to show this group how to lead. Hopefully Self lands another top level PG in the 2020 class that can sit behind Dotson for a tear and learn under a junior Dotson before taking over in either 2021 or 2022.

My first exposure to Sayers was through “Brian’s Song” when I was in middle school before I was a true Jayhawk or even really cared about college football.

Had a couple of chances to meet him, once in high school at a trading card convention and he was one of the athletes they brought in to do an autograph signing. Unfortunately the picture I got signed was ruined when Hurricane Ike hit Houston in 2008. Then I met him again few years after I graduated from KU because my cousin was getting married in KC and I went over to Lawrence for a day and Sayers was at KU for some event with the alumni or WEF, not sure, and I bumped into him in the Union and talked for a few minutes. His dementia had started getting worse by that point, but he was still the nicest person ever.

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

ESPN stats for the CC game shows the QB ratings as: Kendrick 27.6, MacVittie 33.9 and Daniels 18.8. Since Kendrick had the most snaps against CC, I suggest starting him and letting him play the entire first half, no matter what mistakes he makes. Then make adjustments at half time.

Kendrick only had the most snaps because MacVittie got hurt early in the second half, not because of play or production. If MacVittie is healthy, that’s who should get the majority of the snaps against Baylor.

@jayballer67 Jalon Daniels is not the savior of Kansas football in 2020. If he was good enough to be playing now, Miles and Dearmon would be playing him now instead of having him as the 3rd string option.

We all know MacVittie and Kendrick are massively flawed QB’s and nobody here is trying to say either one are good QB’s. It should tell you something when a national title winning head coach and one of best younger offensive minds in the game agree on Daniels not being better than MacVittie or Kendrick yet.

@jayballer67 “You say Daniels feeding to the wolves being damaged goods - - and I call BS with this kid , Daniels stronger arm , Daniels better footwork , quicker -MacVittie is lost , slow”

None of those attributes means a thing if you can’t make the reads in an RPO based offense and I’m guessing Daniels reads are still way too slow. Since none of those three appear to be the future at QB, play the one with the most in game experience at the college level which is MacVittie.

@jayballer67 If Miles or Dearmon thought Daniels was ready, he’d be starting. Throwing someone out there at QB just because they’re a freshman doesn’t mean their development suddenly speeds up. If Daniels gets fed to the wolves before he’s ready, he becomes damaged goods and sets KU back even further in trying to find their QB of the future.

The only offer Daniels had that gives me hope he could play later this season is the Army offer because that tells me there’s some intangibles there that can’t be taught. Jalon Daniels likely still needs to learn the playbook and get reps which he didn’t get a lot of because of Covid cancelling so much practice this summer.

Quite frankly, KU’s future at QB is much more tied to Ben Easters and his development than it is to any of the QB’s currently on the roster because none of them would be starting at any other P5 school.

@stoptheflop said in Baylor COVID postponement:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Hey #10, I know you’re use to my complaints about the pass down the line of scrimmage that never gains anything and last week resulted in the first quarter fumble. But, I see that we are once again using the pause handoff between the QB and RB where they stand together for a second to see who should take the ball. I guess you’d call that an option because the QB may keep it and run or hand off. What I hate is that when the offensive line is already getting beaten on each play by the the mighty CC D-line, that stupid pause just lets the defensive line get a couple more yards deeper into our backfield to easily blow the play up. I’m sure our o-line will get better, but do you agree the backfield pause by the QB is a liability now?

Not necessarily because it’s a zone read/RPO play. These are by design slower developing plays because the QB has to read his keys. The objective is make the defense be wrong in whatever decision they make in regards to option assignments and pass coverage assignments.

Because of the lack of practice since KU didn’t practice in the spring and had limited practice this fall, Dearmon’s RPO based offense is going to look pretty rough this year because it takes time and reps for the QB to learn to read his keys.

This game is one of KU’s best chances for a win this season. New coach with limited practices due to Covid-19 could easily be a recipe for an upset.

@DanR said in GAME DAY:

Too many guys open on that dud throw

Got hit on release

@wissox said in GAME DAY:

So why do they go for 2 there? Now we need two TD’s instead of a FG and a TD.

11 was still a TD and FG.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in GAME DAY:

Can we beat anybody? KSU?

KSU scored 31 so not a chance. Texas Tech is going to be KU’s best shot this year at an upset.