@truehawk93 KU doesn’t have to be the best team in the tournament, just the better team on floor 6 times.

@loyolstud88 Blue blood killer is cute, come back when you beat one.

This fanbase across various sites, including some here, are truly living down to some of the most negative stereotypes about KU fans being snobs. I don’t understand the ego and mentality it takes (including some here) to be more happy and gloating about potentially being right about the demise of Bill Self than caring more about having a successful team and program. To those people, all I have to say is fuck off, KU doesn’t need or want you as fans.

@Kcmatt7 Self knows exactly how to coach young guards. They just don’t become finished products right away. Mason and Graham each took until their third years to become elite guards.

Marcus Garrett has signed a free agent deal with the Miami Heat. The last two Jayhawks who played with the Heat won NBA titles (Chalmers and Simien) so maybe Garrett continues that trend.

@kuballin10 said in Puerto Rico!:

@mayjay lol no doubt I’m starting early.

Last year it was Joe should play more or actually year before that and then last year he showed he doesn’t have it.

This year we have the horses and both Morris and Elmarko are better nba prospects for a reason.

Gotta trust Bill

Being a better NBA prospect doesn’t equal being a better college player right now. Dejuan Harris is a better college player than Morris or Jackson right now because he is a much more polished product than either of those two.

There’s also a reason why Yesufu ended up in the wastelands of Pullman, Washington. He’s an undersized 2 with a low BBIQ that’s never met a shot he didn’t like that Self never should’ve offered.

Constructing a championship caliber team isn’t necessarily about the 5 best players, it’s a bit the 5 right players and Harris brings a lot of other tools than scoring to the table. Having a real post threat now means that Harris can focus on his defense and running the show and not worry about having to score like last season. I wouldn’t be shocked if Harris averaged 8-9 assists per game this season with the supporting cast he has.

Good to see Udeh still helping KU win games, lol!

@wissox said in Peterson:

@rcjhdraft I don’t think that’s our recruiting strategy, do you? I mean lets get a 1 year rental because it’ll bring in all the system guys we need? Of course the portal is a game changer too and maybe guys will want to come alongside him next year thinking they’ll all mesh into a championship team. Someone will probably fact check me on this but I don’t think there’s a championship team since Duke in 2015, or maybe Kentucky in 2012 that’s ridden OAD’s to the championship.

A player’s end goal is not playing Kansas (or whatever school they go to), it’s to play in the NBA. Darryn Peterson is a difference maker and him being successful at Kansas and then in the NBA will attract more of the OAD level talent. That in turn will attract a higher caliber role player to fill in around those superstar players so that in years when there isn’t a OAD caliber player on the roster, it’s still a roster loaded with players who have an NBA future.

KU and Beaty need to do everything in their power to keep Tony Hull because as long as he’s at KU, that pipeline KU now has into New Orleans is going to stay open until for KU until Hull is no longer here. Louisiana is just an entirely different culture from the rest of the country and these guys aren’t joking about the family atmosphere having a huge influence on their decisions. I know @wissox and anyone else including myself who have spent a significant portion of time in Louisiana will 100% back up this claim about the loyalty of Louisiana people being accurate and Hull has the loyalty of HS coaches and players all over the New Orleans area specifically.

Landing Tyriek Starks was the beginning. The connection with Hull was made during this recruitment because Starks played at Warren Easton under Hull. Reggie Mitchell then leaves for Arkansas and KU has a need for a new RB coach. Beaty takes a calculated risk by bringing in Hull in an attempt to get some players out of Louisiana. Almost immediately, Hull gets commitments from Mike Lee and Malik Clark (Clark is also from Warren Easton) and then gets Lee to enroll a year early at KU. In his 1st year, Hull also lands Travis Jordan and Takulve Williams both from the New Orleans area as well. In a little over a year on the job, Hull brings in 4 Louisiana players, one of whom gets a chance to play early. Getting players from Louisiana to visit KU is a big enough deal which hiring Hull allowed KU to at least talk to players in Louisiana. Seeing Mike Lee emerge on the scene however is a game changer for KU in Louisiana. Without the success Mike Lee had last year, KU does not land any of the Louisiana recruits that committed yesterday, at least not early like they did. They probably go home and tell their younger teammates about how nice KU is and that keeps the line of communication open with Louisiana prospects for Tony Hull. Lee’s success is a game changer because it shows these kids that they can come in and be successful very early on at KU instead of having to sit and wait behind other 4 and 5 star guys at LSU.

If Daylon Charlot comes in and has early success and if Tyriek Starks wins the QB job, the floodgates will be fully open for KU to talk to any recruit in Louisiana they want to and to have a legitimate chance to sign those players as well.

What KU did yesterday in getting commitments from Jason and Harris (3rd and 4th best players in Louisiana with offers from LSU, Alabama, and basically everybody in the SEC) is something that has definitely caught a lot of people off guard including everyone who follows KU football. We knew Hull would allow KU to talk to some players out of Louisiana, but to actually land commitments from players the caliber of Jason and Harris is something I don’t even think Tony Hull thought was possible at this stage in the game.

Don’t be surprised to see KU land possibly 3, maybe even more recruits out of Louisiana this year. Warren Easton has a couple of 3 star prospects who we know Hull has a relationship with and there’s a DE out of Baton Rouge that KU is the favorite to land.

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@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Who do you see backing Flory ?— Still no back up Big.

That’s potentially one of the needs, but if Tiller can recover from his ankle surgery in an expected timeline which would have him cleared in time for summer workouts, that would be the ideal option behind Flory. Tiller has less shooting range than KJ did so he wouldn’t be much use at the 4 on offense, but as a back up 5, would be a good situation. This might be what the staff is anticipating as well considering KU hasn’t really been connected with many post options in the portal to this point.

Right now, Self is more focused on trying to find his 5th starter rather than a back up post option so we might see more movement in regards to a back up 5 after the Williams/Stokes situation is settled. That said, I wouldn’t be all that surprised if Bryson Tiller ended up being Flory’s primary back up.

@DCHawker The roster is still incomplete. There’s still quality players in the portal and there will be players withdrawing from the draft who are mostly the highest ceiling players available.

As far as scoring, yes Darryn Peterson is that good. Flory should see a big bump as long as he bulks up a bit this offseason and probablymore than doubles his scoring output. Tre White will likely see a little scoring bump as he’ll likely play closer to 30 mpg, but is a proven double digit per game scorer in a power conference at both Illinois and Louisville.

I also believe that since KU hasn’t really been linked to a high level PG that the staff expects Elmarko be a major factor and if he plays anywhere near his ceiling, he’s another double digit per game scorer.

KU will be fine, Self has clearly shown this offseason that he has a better understanding of the portal and has recruited players that should be much better fits than last season.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/04/2025-nba-draft-early-entrants-list.html

This has a list of players who have declared for the draft and has a list of players who could withdraw before the May 28 deadline. Somewhere in that list is likely where the last big piece of the puzzle will come from. Even if not, I do believe there will be at least 3 future NBA players on KU’s roster next season with Peterson, Flory, and Elmarko.

@DCHawker said in The portal.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Agree re Council. Seems like a really solid rotation guy willing to go hard when he is in. But, a starter? A <15ppg scorer at St. Bonaventure? FG% 44%. 3pt% 30%. Just 2 FTAs per game averaging 37 minutes. Against much lower competition. Just 6’4’’ and 180lbs. Not sure how he will measure up against other B12 guards/wings. Same with Dawson. 14ppg for a double digit loss team in the A-10. Just 41% from the field. Also 6’4" and 185lbs. White also seems like a solid rotation piece, but just 10ppg for an okay Illinois team and just 23mpg. Is he really a starter on a team that aspires to titles? 6’7’’ and 210lbs. Not really a 4 and doesn’t shoot well enough from outside to be a 2-3?

All good rotation players, but starters??? Are we going to have to get 25ppg+ from DeP?

I don’t think Dawson should start and I don’t think White should be the starting 4, he should be at the 3. White’s scoring average last season would’ve been 3rd best on KU. KU isn’t asking him to come in and be the guy. As a 3rd or 4th option depending on who else comes in, I’m good with White’s production. Just remember, that okay Illinois team was a higher seed in the NCAA Tournament than KU was.

Peterson might be good enough to be the highest scoring player Bill Self has had at Kansas, or at least join Jalen Wilson, Frank Mason, and Wayne Simien as 20 ppg scorers and Brandon Rush, Ben McLemore, and Andrew Wiggins as the only freshmen to lead KU in scoring under Self. I also think Flory, Elmarko, and Tre White can all be double digit scorers for KU next season.

I think KU has 4 of their 5 starters for next season and most of the rotation.

I don’t see Council starting over Jackson (I know people will argue that one, but Council doesn’t scream Big 12 starter to me, at least KU level starter). I also don’t think Dawson should start either.

Right now, I’d roll with Jackson, Peterson, White, ???, and Flory to start with Council, Dawson, ???, and Tiller/??? as the rotation pieces off the bench.

This team won’t be a great shooting team, but on paper at least, it looks like this team should be an above average scoring team and defend at an elite level. This absolutely looks like a Bill Self basketball team at this point on paper.

Passmore and Griffen were reportedly visiting Miami today. Would be interesting if they both landed there as Miami already landed one former Jayhawk in the portal this season with Udeh.

AJ Storr to Ole Miss for his final season.

@dylans said in The portal.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I had no idea they would withhold the playbook from Tiller while he recovered. Figured he would be at practice soaking it in like Elmarko. That seems like a ridiculous strategy.

The staff didn’t withhold the playbook from Tiller. He was never medically cleared for 5 on 5 drills so he wasn’t able to do scout team stuff and was likely doing whatever individual drills he was medically cleared to do like Elmarko was.

@dylans said in The portal.:

@MR11 I don’t hear much about Tiller. He’s been with the program practicing for a semester. He was rated around the 25th ranked recruit. But no hype, it’s interesting. I expect someone ranked that high with a 6’10” frame to find some minutes. But it’s pretty much crickets.

He hasn’t been hyped because he hasn’t been practicing. He came here early from Overtime Elite to get acclimated to college and rehab and ankle injury and then had a surgery to repair a lingering issue with his ankle about a month ago. He was never cleared to participate in 5 on 5 during the spring semester.

His current skill set is much more suited to play the post because he doesn’t have a lot of range yet which is probably the biggest hole in his game. We’ll see how the ankle surgeries affect his athleticism, but he has been someone that can guard on the perimeter a bit.

His defense is pretty far ahead of his offense so that’s why Self is looking for a post who can score because Flory and Tiller aren’t that player yet. As long as Tiller is healthy, he should have a spot in the rotation next season.

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@TYOHawk said in The portal.:

@BShark said in The portal.:

Talk of a second visitor this weekend as well…

Please be a big or a wing

PG Xaivian Lee from Princeton. 1st team all-Ivy League last year while averaging 16.9 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 5.5 apg, and 1.2 steals per game. 22.7 PER last season and 24.7 as a sophomore and over 36% assist rate last season. Like other targets, not a great shooter, but gets to the line and he is a playmaker. 4.4 FTA as a sophomore and 3.8 FTA last season. Having spent his first 3 years at Princeton, we also know he’s very smart and should pick up Self’s system pretty easily.

I really enjoy how good of a passer he is in his highlights. He can create some pretty crazy passing angles and find lanes that shouldn’t be there. Him and DP in a little two man game would be insane.