@truehawk93 KU doesn’t have to be the best team in the tournament, just the better team on floor 6 times.

@loyolstud88 Blue blood killer is cute, come back when you beat one.

@Kcmatt7 Self knows exactly how to coach young guards. They just don’t become finished products right away. Mason and Graham each took until their third years to become elite guards.

Marcus Garrett has signed a free agent deal with the Miami Heat. The last two Jayhawks who played with the Heat won NBA titles (Chalmers and Simien) so maybe Garrett continues that trend.

KU and Beaty need to do everything in their power to keep Tony Hull because as long as he’s at KU, that pipeline KU now has into New Orleans is going to stay open until for KU until Hull is no longer here. Louisiana is just an entirely different culture from the rest of the country and these guys aren’t joking about the family atmosphere having a huge influence on their decisions. I know @wissox and anyone else including myself who have spent a significant portion of time in Louisiana will 100% back up this claim about the loyalty of Louisiana people being accurate and Hull has the loyalty of HS coaches and players all over the New Orleans area specifically.

Landing Tyriek Starks was the beginning. The connection with Hull was made during this recruitment because Starks played at Warren Easton under Hull. Reggie Mitchell then leaves for Arkansas and KU has a need for a new RB coach. Beaty takes a calculated risk by bringing in Hull in an attempt to get some players out of Louisiana. Almost immediately, Hull gets commitments from Mike Lee and Malik Clark (Clark is also from Warren Easton) and then gets Lee to enroll a year early at KU. In his 1st year, Hull also lands Travis Jordan and Takulve Williams both from the New Orleans area as well. In a little over a year on the job, Hull brings in 4 Louisiana players, one of whom gets a chance to play early. Getting players from Louisiana to visit KU is a big enough deal which hiring Hull allowed KU to at least talk to players in Louisiana. Seeing Mike Lee emerge on the scene however is a game changer for KU in Louisiana. Without the success Mike Lee had last year, KU does not land any of the Louisiana recruits that committed yesterday, at least not early like they did. They probably go home and tell their younger teammates about how nice KU is and that keeps the line of communication open with Louisiana prospects for Tony Hull. Lee’s success is a game changer because it shows these kids that they can come in and be successful very early on at KU instead of having to sit and wait behind other 4 and 5 star guys at LSU.

If Daylon Charlot comes in and has early success and if Tyriek Starks wins the QB job, the floodgates will be fully open for KU to talk to any recruit in Louisiana they want to and to have a legitimate chance to sign those players as well.

What KU did yesterday in getting commitments from Jason and Harris (3rd and 4th best players in Louisiana with offers from LSU, Alabama, and basically everybody in the SEC) is something that has definitely caught a lot of people off guard including everyone who follows KU football. We knew Hull would allow KU to talk to some players out of Louisiana, but to actually land commitments from players the caliber of Jason and Harris is something I don’t even think Tony Hull thought was possible at this stage in the game.

Don’t be surprised to see KU land possibly 3, maybe even more recruits out of Louisiana this year. Warren Easton has a couple of 3 star prospects who we know Hull has a relationship with and there’s a DE out of Baton Rouge that KU is the favorite to land.

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TCU is significantly better than any 16 seed KU will face. Whatever league KU’s 16 seed comes out of, TCU is good enough to go undefeated in that league.

Lightfoot is also playing way out of position as well. He’s being forced into being a low post player on both ends of the floor when he’s never had that role before. The guy is a stretch 4 and is being exploited in major mismatches because he’s never guarded the position before.

Clay Young has been better on the defensive end because he was a post at his JuCo even at his size. He understands the role and what’s required of the role much better than Lightfoot does.

I’m not going to rip in Lightfoot for this because none of it is his fault. He didn’t make Coleby transfer, he didn’t make Whitman transfer, he didn’t make Preston sit out because of a car. We all know Lightfoot isn’t ready for this role, but he’s the only option at this point.

This situation is why Self is trying to get DeSousa enrolled early and it’s why Sosinski was added to the team. KU needs to work on developing Sosinski over the next 3 weeks which KU only has 3 games during that stretch. Work him into the rotation this week, let him make his debut against Nebraska, give him some big minutes against Omaha as a trial run, and if that goes well, let him sub for Azubuike against Stanford and see how that goes before Texas on the 29th.

If the Preston situation gets resolved in a positive manner by that time, then swap Sosinski out for Preston. Either way, KU needs to find a way to get Lightfoot back to the stretch 4 spot because him as a low post player doesn’t work.

Graham absolutely willed this team to victory in the second half today. Really didn’t think this would happen about a month ago.

@Gorilla72 West Virginia is 8-9 this season. They are really bad team this year and they’re going to be without Konate again I believe so they won’t have any rim protection. This is Huggy’s worst team in a long time.

@FarmerJayhawk said in KU preaseason AP#3:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU preaseason AP#3:

@FarmerJayhawk they can play in the exhibition game, right?

I’m still confused on this rule. I think maybe at one point it was only freshmen?

Was Jalen Wilson’s redshirt a medical or was it considered a regular redshirt because he played in a regular season game as a freshman and still redshirted.

@Marco said in Silence of the flock:

@Texas-Hawk-10 me too. No one is really talking about Clemence though, why? Udeh and Clemence as our bigs, I’d take that all day everyday. Point would be Yesufu(?), Dick a more athletic version of Svi and Zuby factoring in too … That’s not even mentioning the others, Pettiford etc.

But anyway, I digress, can’t wait for this season to start.

I think Harris would actually handle the majority of the PG duties with Yesufu mostly playing the 2 in 2022-23. The good thing about how Self is building is that a lot of players expected to be on the roster in 2022-23 can play multiple positions. Yesufu and Pettiford can both play the 1 and 2 spots, Braun can play the 2-4 spots, MJ Rice if he makes it here can play the 2/3, Zuby and KJ can play the 3/4, Clemence can play the 4/5 spots. To me, Harris, Cuffe, Dick, and Udeh are the only players who are basically one position players.

@BShark said in KU upset alert, right now:

@Texas-Hawk-10 True. I also think Oklahoma just isn’t very good based on their results. They seem like a candidate to get smoked in the playoff if they get there but I could be very wrong about that.

OU’s not going to make the playoffs. I don’t see them going undefeated. The playoffs are probably going to be Georgia, Cincinnati, the Big 10 champs, and I’ll say either Alabama I they win the SEC or Oregon if the Ducks run the table and Georgia beats Alabama in the SEC title game. Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. probably end up cannibalizing each other at the end of the season.

@Marco said in Kansas basketball coach Bill Self eyeing expanded rotation for upcoming season:

Yep. @Texas-Hawk-10 KJ Adams playing too? No way…

Self talks about an expanded rotation almost every year and he still inevitably ends up with typically an 8 or 9 man rotation.

@Marco said in Kansas starting 5:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Kansas starting 5:

@Marco said in Kansas starting 5:

@BShark I like Adams game. What is he going to be though? Seems that somewhere I read that Coach thinks he is a big guard - if true, that would serve him well.

Lost in all of our chatter is that we already have Clemence who no one is talking about (what is the skinny on him, so far?), and Dick, Zuby and Udeh, and hopefully Rice coming in next year, with more to come.

I have seen the KJ highlights, he can ball. I don’t think he will redshirt, just don’t see it. In fact, I think it will be damn hard to keep him off the court. Imo, he’ll get pt at the 3 and 2. He is more athletic than people give him credit for being, and has more than good handles. If he finds a consistent outside shot, look out. A 6’7 physically imposing 2 guard…

If KJ Adams plays one second at the 2 for KU, something has gone terribly wrong with KU’s season. He’s listed at 6-7, 225 lbs. on KU’s site and everywhere has him listed at a PF.

Even if you think he’s a 2, that’s an even more difficult pathway to minutes than the 4 because that’s probably the deepest position on the roster with R. Martin, Yesufu, Pettiford, Braun, and JCL all being capable of playing the two spot if needed. The 4 spot has Wilson, Agbaji and maybe Braun in a small ball line up, maybe Clemence, maybe Cam Martin.

Good points one and all. Self said that he could be a two, not me. My point being, at what position(s) is he going to play? And if he does play, whose minutes is he going to take? He is not going to redshirt.

KJ is a 4 and I don’t see an obvious pathway to minutes for him this season barring injury. He’ll likely be the 13th man in the rotation this season and that means his minutes would probably be around 50 for the season at most. It’s not a knock on him or his ability, but the reality of this upcoming season is it’s very possible none of the freshmen end up playing rotation level minutes this season. Another reality is that Clemence and Pettiford do have clearer pathways to minutes this season because of the roster composition. The only big man that I would say Adams could beat out is Mitch and even then I would take Mitch at this point due to his experience.

KJ isn’t a threat to leave for the NBA early and doesn’t have an obvious spot to contribute this season, so redshirting him makes a ton of sense and he should have a strong chance of being a rotation guy in 2022-23 assuming Wilson leaves after this season as expected.

@BShark said in Silence of the flock:

That is part of why I thought they would maybe go transfer to get a big. It will be very interesting to see who wins those starting jobs for sure.

I’d love to see Clemence and Udeh being the starters at the 4 and 5 spots respectively next season if both Wilson and McCormack are gone which seems pretty likely at this point.

@Marco said in Kansas starting 5:

@BShark I like Adams game. What is he going to be though? Seems that somewhere I read that Coach thinks he is a big guard - if true, that would serve him well.

Lost in all of our chatter is that we already have Clemence who no one is talking about (what is the skinny on him, so far?), and Dick, Zuby and Udeh, and hopefully Rice coming in next year, with more to come.

I have seen the KJ highlights, he can ball. I don’t think he will redshirt, just don’t see it. In fact, I think it will be damn hard to keep him off the court. Imo, he’ll get pt at the 3 and 2. He is more athletic than people give him credit for being, and has more than good handles. If he finds a consistent outside shot, look out. A 6’7 physically imposing 2 guard…

If KJ Adams plays one second at the 2 for KU, something has gone terribly wrong with KU’s season. He’s listed at 6-7, 225 lbs. on KU’s site and everywhere has him listed at a PF.

Even if you think he’s a 2, that’s an even more difficult pathway to minutes than the 4 because that’s probably the deepest position on the roster with R. Martin, Yesufu, Pettiford, Braun, and JCL all being capable of playing the two spot if needed. The 4 spot has Wilson, Agbaji and maybe Braun in a small ball line up, maybe Clemence, maybe Cam Martin.

@drgnslayr said in Silence of the flock:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Sounds logical to me.

Question… with this transfer portal… seems obvious players may be lost easier.

Also seems easier to snag decent, experienced talent.

Isn’t just turning smaller schools into talent farms?

Maybe we redshirt two. Take a hard look at where they are later in the year. If they don’t look like minutes players Self advises them to transfer. Meanwhile… he brings in a new batch!

Am I seeing this wrong?

I don’t think it changes Self’s approach very much in regards to players already on his roster. Maybe Kyle Cuffe transfers out because it could be awhile before he sees big minutes with Harris, Yesufu, and Pettiford all capable PG’s already here and none looking like early exit candidates. That combined with how little he’s played recently could hinder his development and he ends up at a lower level. Maybe Adams or Clemence, but I would say those two would be more likely after year two based on the class KU has coming next year if either Adams or Clemence fails to crack the rotation in 2022-23. 2022-23 is looking like it could be be very young team at the 4 and 5 spots.

@BShark said in KU upset alert, right now:

KU has some grit. This year is basically lost but bodes well for Leipold’s future here. Year 3 feels like the target line for real progress and wins.

I agree because of of Leipold’s history, but KU seemingly has a game like this every year regardless of the coach where a good team comes in for an 11am game and plays really poorly because of a pretty dead atmosphere. Texas a couple of times, TCU seemingly most games, OSU has had some duds in Lawrence.

How well can KU follow and build on games like this has always been the struggle previously.

@BShark said in Kansas starting 5:

The box score will be leaked, probably immediately after the scrimmage lol.

Worth noting they aren’t anything close to real games. Often times the coaches will work on particular things, they will do scenarios etc

KJ plays hard, that goes a long way with Bill. I think he will be an emergency minutes guy this year.

Who does KJ play over though? He’s not skilled enough to be a 3 and not strong enough yet to be a 4. I think with the experience level of this team, Self will end up redshirting him and Cuffe. Unless KJ turns into Draymond, at 6-7 and being listed as a PF, he doesn’t have an NBA future and will be at KU 4-5 years.