@Woodrow lol even he is now tired of the culture he himself created at UK.

@Woodrow ok so agree to disagree, that’s fine.

But what if we don’t look competitive at all this season? What if it’s a repeat of last year?

@Woodrow well Beaty wasn’t worth that price. And the only reason he was hired was because we were still paying Fat Charlie and couldn’t afford anyone else or attract any talent.

4 years ago, I would have agreed that this job was poopoo. It was an impossible position to be successful in. We wouldn’t pay a coach much money, we had no talent at all, and our AD had no intentions of investing money into our teams outdated facilities.

All of that has changed. And while the job may not be attractive to top assistants, it still would be for younger up and coming head coaches. There are several coaches in the MAC right now that I would be interested in. And I think they would take the job now, knowing they would be given 5 years to get the thing rolling.

HE GONE

@Woodrow $3M isn’t as much as you are thinking it is imo. Not anymore. That is the price for getting a guy to make the jump now. It isn’t like we are trying to make someone the highest paid coach in football. But cheating out on your coach just isn’t the place to skimp.

@Woodrow I would want us to hire someone like Jeff Brohm when he was at Western Kentucky. A guy with Head Coach experience and program development. Someone with a history of success. Brohm cost $3M. That is where my bar is at and where I am getting my salary figure. Paying anyone less means we are just taking another throw at the dart board and hoping we hit a bullseye.

Once Beaty went the JUCO route with this class, he put all his chips in the middle. It is time to put up or shut up.

@Woodrow Yes they can and yes they can.

That is probably the average salary for a P5 Head Football Coach.

And you can fire them when the scholarship count is low if it isn’t getting any better anymore. Beaty can’t keep kids on the team or sign enough HS kids so scholarship numbers aren’t actually getting better anymore.

I am totally ok giving the next Head Coach a guaranteed 5 years. But I want a guy committed to recruiting at the HS level,a proven player developer and I want his contract to basically say he would have to commit a federal crime to be fired before that.

Like I said, if Beaty doesn’t win 4 games this year, he needs to go. This is his 4th year and there needs to be tangible proof of improvement.

How much longer do you want to keep Beaty if he keeps posting 1 win seasons?

@BigBad And switch on pick and rolls.

Patty Pat Pat. You sad sack of Mizzou trash. You couldn’t help yourself. You have been awaiting this moment. Kansas was finally named in the FBI probe, officially. A glorious moment for the little brother to the East. We know that, on a forum, we would be giving the same crap to anyone else. But, when a “journalist” from your rival clearly writes an nationally published article in an attempt to defame a program, and then claims that work as good journalism, I have a problem.

Pat Forde doubled down on his takes on the Petro show a couple of days ago. I was disappointed with how the interview went, as Petro kept alluding to what he really wanted to say, but ended up not having the guts to actually put Forde on the spot. But I did take two things for Petro’s show. The first, that Pat Forde has as much pull in the CBB world as anyone on this Board. When your named and unnamed source have to be the same person, and they are simply a TV personality that can’t get a Head Coaching job, you have absolutely no clout in the business.

The Second, and most important one, is that either Bill Self is either a complete idiot, or he is clean and knows it.

In Pat’s article, he rips us for Cliff, JJ, Billy and De Sousa. When he was on Petro, he challenged people to find “any inaccuracies in my story.” Well, I will concede that he probably doesn’t have any inaccuracies, but simply information withheld from the story to fit his narrative. Basically, today’s bullshit that somehow passes for “journalism.”

Instead of commending KU’s compliance department for somehow unearthing the financial schemes, and holding out Billy and Cliff, he acts as if Bill Self knew and that the compliance department is protecting him. How Cliff could be held against Bill Self I have no idea. Bill Self didn’t take out the loan for Cliff’s mom. But somehow, that makes KU dirty. He uses the same information that, Yahoo themselves released, that had JJ’s mom included, but failed to mention that several other CBB stars over the past two years were on that same list. Why? Because providing all of the information discredits what Pat wants you to believe. Pat Ford is on a mission to prove that Bill Self is basically the Don Corleone of CBB.

Of course, that theory only works if you think Bill Self is a complete F-ing idiot. How dumb would you have to be, to sit a player that you paid, only to bring in another kid that you paid AFTER the FBI probe was announced. You would have to be a complete moron. Only a complete f-ing idiot would be that dumb.

So, is Bill Self dumb, or is he clean? You can’t have both Pat. Either Bill is so confident that him and his staff aren’t involved in anything dirty that he doesn’t care who he brings in, or he is a complete moron who has cheated his way to the top.

I find it hard to believe that anyone who has won 14 straight conference titles, been to 3 FFs and won a NC can be considered an idiot.

So, Pat, go f–k yourself.

Now that is what you say when you are coming back.

Go read Wenyen Gabriel’s. That is what you say when you are gonzo.