justanotherfan said:

Grayson Allen is a dirty player. That’s what separates him from a lot of the guys @BigBad lists. Many of those guys were physical. Allen is just dirty.

Go back and look up what the NBA players all thought of John Stockton.

Ron Artest, Dennis Rodman, Bill Laimbeer, Bruce Bowen, Rasheed Wallace…I can name plenty of others. Allen is in this mold but we hate him even worse because a) he isn’t as talented as those guys, we all hate Duke, and c) I agree with Dackich that guards who do this stuff are really detested.

@KUSTEVE Easily 20…

8-10 on fast break 4-6 on hustle put backs 2-4 on the block 4-6 FTs

Every time I see these past Jayhawks flame out in the NBA it reiterates my feeling the Bill Self maximizes guys talent better than any coach in college aside from maybe Izzo. It reminds me of Bobby Knight. Outside of Isaiah Thomas he never had much long term NBA talent either.

nbadraft.net has Ochai as the #7 pick in 2020 draft. https://www.nbadraft.net/2020mock_draft

The best NBA teams have a rim protector who is a great rim runner on offense. This guy allows the other 4 to really press the 3 point shooters and fear the drive less because of the rim protector. We have Doke this year so the other 4 should theoretically be able to do this. You also have to have players that really understand the scouting report and know which guys they can help off of.

With Self saying Dave is the “best big man shooter” does that mean he starts over Silvio at the 4 and we get the traditional high low with serious size? This team gives Self lineups to use his old high low system and also the 4 out stuff he has used the past few years. Should be fun to watch.

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

HighEliteMajor said:

Say Dotson doesn’t come back. So what?

NIT

Lol at this. We could run out Free State High and Self would get them to 5th in the league.

G: Garrett

G: Ochai

G: Wilson

F: Silvio

F: Doke

That’s a possible Sweet 16 team.

Everyone talks offense but that lineup is a top 3 nationally defensive team. The 3 guards can cover with no fear because of the 2 guys behind them. If a team is 4 out I think Silvio is quick enough to handle it.

Great coaches like Self break you down and build you up. Some players break early and build early(Dotson), some break early and take half a season(Oubre), and some break and need more than 1 season to really get it. I’d put Grimes into that last category. Of course, his mental makeup inst going to allow himself to be coached long enough to maximize his overhyped ability.

BShark said:

@justanotherfan RJ had a bigger offer from China according to reports but took the Australia offer due to English language and perceived better lifestyle.

Has he seen the spiders and snakes in Australia? LOL