KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread
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Would be pretty devastating to see him go too. But I’d get it.
Really the shame in it would be that they could have landed Schierman but figured JW would be back
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Wilson is an interesting case at the next level. He’s good, and there are guys that he could model his game after, but his limited athleticism mean he has a very narrow and very specific path to NBA success.
His best bet is as Kyle Anderson. The guy is nicknamed “Slo Mo” and comes off the bench for Memphis. He is a good player at the NBA level, but limited athletically to the point where he can’t really be a star, though he will probably have a nice long career.
Wilson is a better athlete than Anderson, but probably not quite as good a shooter, though he certainly could develop into as effective as that in the NBA over time. Anderson developed quickly as a shooter, starting at 21% as a freshman at UCLA, but has been serviceable in the NBA (career 33%). Wilson fits best with a winning team or good organization (think Heat, Spurs, Bucks, Celtics, Suns, Mavs) as opposed to a rebuild (no on Kings, Rockets, Pistons, Knicks, etc.).
The question is whether he’s better off starting that journey now since he’s already 21, or waiting until next year. If he shows good outside touch, its worth being a second rounder because his draft stock won’t improve much because of his age and limited upside, unlike a guy like Agbaji whose athleticism makes it possible that he becomes a high level starter in the NBA (why it made sense for Ochai to return last year but may make sense for Wilson to leave this year).
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@BShark never saw those 3’s, not that many!
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You can see his confidence! With play like that, he may well stay in the draft. I’ll be curious to see what feedback he receives.
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Wilson’s stat-line was 6/10 from the field (4/6 from 3), 18 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, 0 turnovers. And also 5 fouls. That’s pretty good. The 3-point shot is obviously a big key to him having success in the NBA. The other key for him I guess would be not being a total liability on defense in the NBA, which… ya. I didn’t watch any of the game, just looked at the box score. The 5 personal fouls may be an indication that he was trying to play defense.
McCormack was 3/6 from the field, 9 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 turnover
McCullar was 1/7 from the field, 4 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals
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Wilson!
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Good for J will. Still not getting drafted. One performance changes little
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I’m pulling for JWil always! But I watched those highlights and he played against no competition. Was that an “under 6-ft” league?
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JWill looks like a stud in that clip.
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@drgnslayr It wasn’t the under 6’ league. That’s the league I’m in.
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Jalen going to the show. They may not have to get creative with the roster after all
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@FarmerJayhawk said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Jalen going to the show. They may not have to get creative with the roster after all
Called up to the big league combine, huh. We still got a chance!
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If Jalen goes I hope Spurs get Christian and Jalen (not really a possibility, but I can still dream)
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with the 9th overall pick, the San Antonio Spurs select… Ochai Agbaji!
with the 25th overall pick, the San Antonio Spurs select… Christian Braun!
with the 38th overall pick, the San Antonio Spurs select… Jalen Wilson!
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To paraphrase Matthew Mcconnahey in Dazed and Confused, what i love about the NBA draft is that while the Lakers get one year older, the rest of the league stays the same age! Giggity.
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@approxinfinity said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
To paraphrase Matthew Mcconnahey in Dazed and Confused, what i love about the NBA draft is that while the Lakers get one year older, the rest of the league stays the same age! Giggity.
I cackled
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@approxinfinity whoops . With the 20th overall pick, the San Antonio Spurs select … Mitch Lightfoot?
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I was looking back over recent draft classes… enjoyed particularly the 2013 class which the nba had no clue how to evaluate as is evidenced by the order of picks. Im assuming because the talent was largely international big men, they didnt get it right. https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/history/?Season=2013
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@approxinfinity Giannis 15th pick…lol.
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@approxinfinity said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
To paraphrase Matthew Mcconnahey in Dazed and Confused, what i love about the NBA draft is that while the Lakers get one year older, the rest of the league stays the same age! Giggity.
Speaking of Matthews, it appears Matthew Mayer is going to UNC. Going to take the Brady Manek role.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Jalen going to the show. They may not have to get creative with the roster after all
This would work out a lot of things.
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@BShark said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Jalen going to the show. They may not have to get creative with the roster after all
This would work out a lot of things.
I think he’s ready. Not sure if he gets drafted, but he has plenty of talent to do the grind, and put himself in position to make money off his craft. Great kid- made a 180 after the DUI.
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Want Wilson back more then any transfer. Way more important
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If Wilson keeps shooting like this, he’s a second rounder for sure, maybe an end of the first guy. Biggest issue is his age. He was old for his class to begin with since his birthday is in November. Then he redshirted, meaning he’s another year older. He played this entire season at 21. If he returns, he will be just a few weeks from his 23rd birthday making his pro debut. Compare that to Ochai. He’s just seven months older than Jalen Wilson. Christian Braun is four month younger.
I’m sure Wilson’s people are weighing that factor carefully. At this point, if he has interest, he should leave because he’s losing a year of his pro career - even assuming longevity for him, Wilson probably won’t play past his age 35 season, which would give him either a 13 year career if he goes now, or a 12 year career window. Rookie contracts are 4 years long, so his rookie deal would either expire when he’s 26 or 27, when he would negotiate for what would probably be his only big contract (a four or five year deal that takes him to his age 30 or 31 season).
I comped him with Kyle Anderson before, and I think the comparison works. Anderson entered the league at 21, while Wilson will enter at 22 essentially. After playing out his rookie deal in San Antonio, Anderson inked a 4 year deal at the midlevel exception, which got him around 9M per year. His deal expires this year and he will have a chance, at 29, to negotiate one more decent deal, probably at the MLE again. Wilson will finish his rookie deal at 26, then get a shot at the MLE. Because he’s older, he may not get a shot at a second MLE deal, and may have to sign for a veteran’s minimum type contract after his second contract expires. That could be the difference in making $70M+ in his career and making less than $50M, especially if he waits another year, meaning his rookie deal expires at 27, and a MLE deal expires at 31, at which point teams may be looking to get younger rather than signing a more expensive veteran role player, which is where Jalen Wilson projects.
This decision to stay or go could literally be a $20M+ decision for him. I wish him all the best. I will be rooting for him.
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Ochai’s numbers were terrific. 6’11 wingspan, 2nd highest vertical, 4th fastest sprint. Should put him firmly in the top 10. Really hoping he goes to the Spurs
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@FarmerJayhawk said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Ochai’s numbers were terrific. 6’11 wingspan, 2nd highest vertical, 4th fastest sprint. Should put him firmly in the top 10. Really hoping he goes to the Spurs
Definitely a lottery pick.
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If only ESPN had a Stephen A block button
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@Jethro said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Speaking of Matthews, it appears Matthew Mayer is going to UNC. Going to take the Brady Manek role.
But is he going to take the mullet?
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@tis4tim said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
@Jethro said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Speaking of Matthews, it appears Matthew Mayer is going to UNC. Going to take the Brady Manek role.
But is he going to take the mullet?
I think he already has one. I always thought Mayer was better than Manek- UNC is going to be STOUT next year.
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@approxinfinity said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
If only ESPN had a Stephen A block button
The remote’s channel button is a good substitute. I have no idea why anyone chooses to watch ESPN when they know they will be exposed to his rants.
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@mayjay I dont watch ESPN, but I do frequent their site, and the sight of his face makes me anxious.
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@Jethro said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
@tis4tim said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
@Jethro said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Speaking of Matthews, it appears Matthew Mayer is going to UNC. Going to take the Brady Manek role.
But is he going to take the mullet?
I think he already has one. I always thought Mayer was better than Manek- UNC is going to be STOUT next year.
UNC should be preseason #1 and the title favorites going into next season. Hubert Davis seemed to figure it out after the Duke loss. UNC went 13-3 after that game and genuinely looked like a top 10 team for most of that stretch of games too. Bacot and Davis will likely be on the short list of NPOY candidates next season and if Caleb Love can become more consistent, they very well could cut the nets down next season.
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Wilson’s playing now on espnnews. They had self on. I like these espn guys much better than the usual ones
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CB on espn2 now.
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CB would do better w/o Collin Gillespie as pt guard!
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CB has been moved to Wilson’s team, so I’m not sure which time they play. Some have dropped out.
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Tell me this isnt Christian with more hair
https://mutigers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/parker-braun/7346
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@approxinfinity He is now at Santa Clara University. That is a team that could make some noise in the WCC which has been dominated by Gonzaga, St Mary’s and San Francisco (USF) for at least a decade.
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@approxinfinity he use to have really long hair
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Nice assist by Wilson to CB for a dunk followed by a roar! No bitch though.
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@BShark Danke
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@rockchalkjayhawk stats posted here
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Now that KUSports.com is unusable and the worst sports website on the internet, where else are you going for KU news? How can the operators of that website be so incompetent?
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@stoptheflop said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Now that KUSports.com is unusable and the worst sports website on the internet, where else are you going for KU news? How can the operators of that website be so incompetent?
I haven’t been there in awhile what happened??!
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@BShark When I open the site, the only thing that shows is a large image. The stories are below, but are quite limited and very few people respond now.
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@stoptheflop said in KU/Big 12 NBA draft decisions thread:
Now that KUSports.com is unusable and the worst sports website on the internet, where else are you going for KU news? How can the operators of that website be so incompetent?
Hmm, harsh view. I like the site. Always has the current team news, and it’s free. No complaints.
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@stoptheflop the mobile view on KuSports is pretty bad. I agree about that. Just not laid out well. The content is still decent, for what it is.
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@approxinfinity The links after the articles sometimes have headlines that look current (a la “Self high on recruits”) and have been as old as 2012 with no hint.
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@stoptheflop next time you go to the website, in the URL it’s going to have something along the lines of “www.kusports.com/version=mobile” (not sure if that’s the exact address) but change the word “mobile” to “desktop”, that should bring up the normal site you’re used to seeing.
