Iowa State, Oklahoma, Baylor and TCU should all be considering the transfer route to get some help for next year with a grad transfer. The Big 12 as a whole could get some decent reinforcements via transfer for next season. The Big 12 really needs another nationally strong contender to help validate the conference.
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RE: 2018-2019 Grad & Sitout Transfer Thread
RE: The Overrated ACC
Agreed that mocking the ACC would be a lot easier if the Big 12 had even one other program in the conference that was as consistently strong as Duke or UNC. Or if the Big 12 had a budding program like Virginia (I know they lost to a 16, but check their record over the last 5 years - every non-KU Big 12 squad would trade for that in a heartbeat). Until someone else steps forward on the national stage, it’s really hard to mock another conference.
RE: 2018-2019 Grad & Sitout Transfer Thread
Looks like Penny will have Memphis up and running pretty quickly. There’s enough talent from within the city that if he can keep those kids at home, he can have a legit program in just a couple of years.
As for Wake Forest, Manning is in some trouble there. Wake is such a tough job. NC State is a tough job, but Wake is in an even tougher position. It’s the only major program in the state without any national titles (everyone else has at least two), and its always recruiting from a disadvantage. I’m not sure how to build a consistent winner there, particularly with UVA also strong. I hope Manning can hold out, but things aren’t looking good.
RE: Sweet 16 Games
You make a good point about players picking their coach, as opposed to the way that I said it. Either way, recruiting is a part of college basketball. I don’t think it should be a knock to say that UK has more talent. Calipari is a great recruiter, and recruiting is a big part of the job of any college basketball coach. No one here is discounting our 14 straight Big 12 titles even though KU routinely has more NBA talent (marginal or otherwise) than every other Big 12 team, sometimes more than every other team combined. Self outrecruits the rest of the conference. That makes him a better coach because that is part of the job.
We laugh at Bruce Weber when he whines about not having as much talent. It’s not like I think Weber should get extra recognition because he doesn’t have as much talent. If you don’t have talent as a college coach, go recruit some. If you need more, go get more.
RE: Sweet 16 Games
You’re setting an almost impossible standard if you say a coach didn’t have his team ready if they lost to a lower seed. Calipari has lost as the higher seed 9 times in his 24 postseason trips. That looks bad until you start comparing it to other top coaches. Let’s take Coach K, Bill Self and Roy Williams, and look at just when they have had #1 seeds.
As a 1 seed (six times), Calipari has won a title, never lost to anyone seeded lower than 2, and has lost to another 1 seed three times. So Calipari has his 1 seeds ready half the time.
Self has also had six number one seeds. He’s never lost to another one seed, he has one title, but he’s also lost to a 2 twice, a three, a nine and an eleven. Self has his 1 seeds ready 17% of the time.
Roy Williams has had eleven #1 seeds. He’s got three titles, but his eight losses were to a pair of 4 seeds, an 8, a 9, three #2’s and two #1’s. Williams has his 1 seeds ready 45% of the time.
Coach K has had a one seed twelve times. He has four titles as a one seed. He’s also lost once to another one seed. The other seven times, he lost to a two seed (three times), a five seed (three times), and a four seed (once). So Coach K has his 1 seeds ready 42% of the time.
So for the 1 seeds of these coaches, Calipari is at 50%, Williams is at 45%, Coach K is 42% and Self is at 17%.
But I will be honest when I say that’s an impossible standard. If you’re getting to the Elite Eight as a one seed, you’re playing pretty darn close to expectation. That makes the ledger look like this instead - Calipari is 100%, Self is 83%, Williams is 72% and Coach K is 67%. That makes more sense to me than saying that four of the best coaches in the game today are all at or under 50% for getting their best teams ready to perform.
As to talent, it’s not like any of these four coaches can ever bemoan that they lack for talent. They all basically always have talent. And if they don’t, well, if you can’t recruit talent to Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky and Kansas, maybe that’s not the right job for you. There’s no prize for winning with less talent. Part of a college basketball coach’s skill is recruiting because you get to pick your own players.
RE: Young and Done
His build says he could, but he isn’t a defender. If you look at the Curry/Thompson backcourt, what makes it work is that Thompson is one of the best wing defenders in the NBA, and even if he isn’t getting shots, he still plays that end of the floor.
Ideally, Young plays with a 2 that is a top notch wing defender, and a 3 or stretch 4 that is the primary scorer. He needs someone that can guard the other top PGs in the league without it affecting their offense. Booker isn’t that guy at this point, although if they draft Young, maybe he becomes that guy.
RE: Young and Done
Young in the wrong situation will be a bust because he will be forced into taking bad shots and throwing careless passes. Young in the right situation could be a star or better, because his floor spacing and vision will be at a premium. You have to pair him with another scorer, and probably a backcourt teammate that can handle the tougher defensive assignments on a nightly basis.
I don’t know that Booker is a good match because he may not fit with that group defensively. Young needs to be paired with a bigger guard so that he isn’t exploited defensively because of his size/strength.
RE: Hate this
But what do they want done? Firing the coach means starting over again, which means probably having a roster of 60 something scholarship players, meaning we start over from where Beaty started at three years ago.
If you fire the AD, you probably end up firing the coach after this season, which resets the clock. KU football isn’t like some other places because KU cannot just recruit locally to rebuild the talent within the program. At Texas, or Miami, or Alabama, or LSU, or Georgia, or USC (and others) the right coaching hire can attract enough talent to turn around a program in a couple of years because they can recruit locally to replace every position. There just isn’t enough talent in a 200 mile radius of Lawrence to turn things around in a couple of years, particularly when you are fighting Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, K-State, Nebraska, etc. for what there is as far as local talent.
Building the program is a years long process. Beaty has completed phase 1, which was just getting scholarship numbers back. Phase 2 is improving the talent base.
RE: Sweet 16 Games
I’ve been told that saying always is a sure bet to get you into trouble. You are right. You can’t discount the Robert Morris loss as if it didn’t happen.
I will grant the Robert Morris loss as a time that a Calipari team did not show up. Here are all of his postseason losses, the seed his team was, and the seed he lost to:
As a one seed in the NCAA tournament (he’s been a 1 seed seven times) Calipari has never lost to any team seeded lower than 2. If he gets a 1 seed, he’s going to the Elite Eight at a minimum. So he always shows up as a 1 seed.
As a two seed in the NCAA tournament (seeded second five times) Calipari has one second round loss to a 10 seed back in 1994. Other than that, he has a Sweet 16, and three Elite Eights, losing to a 3, a 4 and two different ones. So other than the one disappointment as a two seed in 1994, Calipari gets to the Sweet 16 as a 2 seed.
As a three seed, Calipari was beaten by a 2 seed and a 6 seed.
As a four seed, Calipari went to the Final Four once, and lost in the round of 32 once.
As a seven seed, Calipari never made it past the second round, and lost in the first round once.
As an 8 seed, Calipari went to the national title game.
In his one time as a one seed in the NIT, Calipari lost in the first round. He was knocked out in the first round of the NIT in 1990, and has three appearances in the semifinals, plus an NIT title.
So in 24 postseason trips, Calipari has not been upset just once (the infamous Bobby Mo). He’s been upset twice - Bobby Mo in 2013 and Maryland in 1994.
When he has a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAA tournament, you can pretty much bet on him going to the Elite Eight at least. 12 times he’s been seeded 1 or 2, and 10 of those resulted in at least Elite Eight appearances or better.
The guy hasn’t been upset in the postseason in any of his current player’s lifetimes. He got beaten in the NIT by Robert Morris. But if you had to find one coach that would consistently play to his seed, that coach is not Williams, or Boeheim, or Coach K, or Self, or Izzo, or (insert your favorite HOF coach not previously named here). The answer is Calipari.
He does not lose as a one seed in the NCAA tournament to lower seeded teams. If you don’t have at least a 2 in front of your name, forget it. If the committee thinks Calipari was one of the best four teams in the country, he’s one of the last eight standing, period. No exceptions. There isn’t another coach in the country that can say they make it to the Elite Eight if they have a one seed.
RE: Clemson Tigers - Friday - 6:07 pm - CBS
I think CBS took a better view, although I would agree with them that this KU team is flawed, but this KU team is still a very good team compared to the nation as a whole. The only teams left that can really punish their weakest spots are Michigan, Kentucky (who we already beat), A&M (ditto) and Duke. I don’t think Clemson has the firepower or talent, and Villanova is basically built the exact same way as KU.
The rest of the top teams we either already know (WVU, Tech) or could be exposed as weaker than the nation realizes (did you know Purdue’s best non-con wins were Louisville and Arizona), particularly since Haas may be out for the rest of the season.
If we see Duke, it will be the Elite Eight. We wouldn’t see Michigan until the title game, if we get that far.
This flawed KU team may have a chance to win a title, because its all but certain that some flawed team will win this title - just a question of which one.