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Looked like that user was responsible for the chinese spam. Not sure whether it was intentional or not, but i felt I had to put a lid on it.

Silvio is quite the lightning rod. All the talk in the press seems to be about him rather than the K-State players. This is not fair.

It is definitely his fault for taunting after the block. The technical foul was fair. But the physical altercation was instigated and escalated by K-State players-- multiple individuals.

In the video, what I see is KState players running to confront Silvio. One of them pushes him. I see Silvio brush that push away and another player pushes him and he begins to push away and back at the same time (look closely-- his hands are not clenched; they are open to deflect the aggressors.)

There are at least two pushing him, maybe three. Meanwhile, everyone around Silvio is telling him to stop because they are all KU fans. It looks to me like he’s trying to not over-react for a couple of seconds while the K-State players have no one holding them back. Then the third guy lunges and pushes Silvio down and he comes up swinging.

I think it’s important to look at Silvio’s body language in those early moments. He is not trying to fight at first. He gets provoked and then all hell breaks loose. The stool incident I see as an instinctive act… and one that he fortunately is able to overcome with help of those around him.

Silvio is justifiably being called out. But he should not be singled out. The players from K-State who were responsible for the escalation and the first physical acts should be equally called out.

As is often the case when there is great disparity between two forces, the smaller power can’t win with the traditional rules, so they resort to guerrilla tactics to get the bigger power to do something uncharacteristic. Silvio bit on the bait.

No one who is here is a fair-weather fan. I appreciate that.

Everyone on this site during the season has followed the team with its incredible comebacks and it’s painful letdown losses.

Today was very disappointing, and we fans are going to have to endure a lot of grief from giddy, over-zealous WSU fans for a long long time.

I appreciate being a part of a community of fellow fans who appreciate the team and carve time out of their schedule to share thoughts and emotions with each other.

Have a great off-season, and Rock Chalk.

Paul Pierce in a post-game interview sounding like a coach…

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12055979/paul-pierce-says-washington-wizards-improve-defensive-habits

“You can learn a lot of lessons from losses, but you also learn lessons from winning,” Pierce said. “Hopefully we have better urgency on defense as this stretch comes up. We got Phoenix, Chicago, and of course New York and then our [Western Conference] trip. So we got to build better habits before this trip.”

For just a moment, I wondered what if Pierce was an assistant to Self in a few years… hmmmm.

When will this team be properly referenced as:

KUSA

This was the most impressed I’ve been by an opponent since Durant.

Congratulations B. Hield! The dude totally earned my respect with a special performance in a game for the ages.

Just imagine if Duke had secured their 13th straight conference title…

The 30minute preview show leading up to the game would have been a retrospective…

We would be watching the 5 part series tonight – it would already be in the can, ready for broadcast – built from the materials they started developing 8 years ago when the streak was 5 games long and they already deemed it the single greatest accomplishment in sports history. Interviews with the players over the years… and interviews with coaches…

Think I’m exaggerating? If Grayson Allen had tripped someone tonight, there would be a special report tomorrow and a special piece on Duke’s struggles ready for the weekend games.

https://twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1072161035400986624

The chart shown here will captivate you for a long, long time.

But this is just another piece of evidence that reinforces what a HOFer Bill Self is.

He is world class.

We witnessed a historic year in Kansas Basketball. It didn’t end exactly the way we wanted, but we’ll look back on this year as a watershed moment – HC Bill Self named to the HOF, Frank Mason III named POY (first in KU history), tying the NCAA record for consecutive conference championships (13) and setting the NCAA record for consecutive appearances in the Tournament (28), among other things.

I believe next year will be tough for us because expectations have been set at an extremely high level - without achieving the FF/NC goals.

In particular, our PG next year (and for many years to come) will be compared to Frank. Whoever takes over the PG role next year will be in a tough position. We now know great PG play when we see it. Anything less will be disappointing but less is almost certain.

So this is just a precautionary note to manage those ‘sky-is-falling’ feelings next year when they come. It will feel natural to pick apart the guard play and backcourt, but that’s because 2016-17 was the new benchmark for excellence.

@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

@RockkChalkk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:

I hear you. But to be fair, playing Garrett isn’t the reason we didn’t have scoring. There wasn’t another option on the roster. This year’s team was missing a lot of pieces. Its just hard to keep up when you see the rest of the team getting knocked for their (lack of) defense - i.e. Wilson, but are also presumably happy to see a defensive player of the year caliber starter move on.

I like to call last year’s roster “oops all wings”.

Nice. I’d like to call them “not-so-spicy-wings” or “I’ve had better wings.”

Or maybe “All wings, no flight”.

Didn’t realize Langford won player of the year in his league but did know he had won championships overseas, and had picked up some other awards.

I wonder if there could ever be a path for Langford’s number to hang in the AFH rafters. I don’t know that I could make the case right now, but it seems like he’s done more than perhaps some others.

Call me crazy, but I’m still hoping for both to return after learning what they need to know for next year. A good run in the tourney is more likely to boost both of their stock than their performance in the combine.

That was Graham in a Drake uniform.

Speaking of talent in various areas of the country… I was surprised that there was a KC native on the UCLA starting 5 at the FF. Riley… What’s the story on him? Never interested? Not a fit here with Doke and Silvio? Or did we go with Dave over him?

Tempting to get juiced for all these new toys in the toybox… but don’t forget that history shows many fail to pick up the system quickly. It’s not uncommon to have a shiny new toy sitting on the bench for extended periods in Nov, Dec and even Jan.

Sometimes, it takes a full year and the production only comes in the second year.

Not trying to be a downer… But trying to stay realistic.

With that in mind, don’t sleep on the incumbents who know the system and have grown another year.

@approxinfinity said in Does Baylor's title make Self hungrier?:

To significantly develop a player they have to have a high ceiling. Doke, Frank, Devonte, Ochai have high ceilings, and they developed quite nicely under Self.

True. However – and I have no data to back this up, just the eye-test – I would say there has been less development the past 5 years as compared with the first 10+ years of Self’s tenure. I think a little shakeup in the coaching staff could be helpful with regard to this.

That SUCKS. We are in the RED ZONE and weeks away from the end zone. This is the WORST the time to get covid.

This is when everyone should be digging in, together, making the final push to victory… leaving nothing to chance and doing everything in our power to protect lives until the vaccine reaches everyone.

Be safe @BShark and hang in there.

Look, it’s always wise to gather more information. From that point of view, it’s great for him to go through this process and use it as an information gathering process. Unless he finds that he’s a lock in the first round, I sure hope he doesn’t leave.

I don’t believe he maxed out here at all. He can dramatically improve his position in the draft with another year.

Between last year (Covid) and this year (flawed team), he hasn’t had the stage that others get with a deep run in the tournament, but he has been a big contributor and has grown every year. His athleticism is NBA level and his shot is getting more consistent. He’s poised to do something great next year and I hope it’s with us.

Worst case scenario, he goes through the draft process, pulls out and enters the transfer portal. That would be a nightmare. He should be a Jayhawk until he’s a pro.

Good points. Both Self and Drew faced challenges that are massively different.

Self’s challenge was to take over a blue blood program after Roy had virtually established himself in the HOF in 15 years at KU.

Drew’s challenge was to take over a program virtually destroyed by scandal and sanctions. In a football state. In Waco.

Vastly different journeys to get to reach the pinnacle. Both worthy of admiration for different reasons.