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JayHawkFanToo said:
I believe the show is called between the lines and goes from 2 to 6 in the afternoon and is led by Kietzman.
Trash radio lol
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Unfortunately last year it replaced 610AM as the official KU station in the KC Metro area. Another bonner by Zenger, handing KU sports broadcasts to Kietzman, a KSU fan and KU hater.
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@JayHawkFanToo I will listen to it sometime. I agree the headline was provocative, but it certainly reflected the concerns that have been raised everywhere. Sort of like when Michael Phelps got caught with marijuana here in Columbia with some SC students, along the lines of: “Has Phelps’ Run of Olympic Medals Gone to Pot?”
As to coaches and writers talking: I absolutely believe they talk and speculate about all types of stuff. They go to the same locales, they eat together, they talk to the same people, they yak OTR constantly, and I am sure they speculate (again, OTR) constantly. It boggles my mind to think you believe no one, in those conversations, would ever have said: “God, that payola crap looks messy. And it is addidas! Look at Louisville–that is a big-time take-down. You think KU will get caught in this–they get more money from addidas than anyone?”
I am not saying I think the writers haven’t gotten their quills sharpened to make more hay out of this. But I think most sports journalists see and hear about far worse things than they report, including athletes getting tons of benefits from boosters, etc, so I think they are quite cynical, not biased against any particular program, conference, or region.
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I am not saying that coaches never talk about it but to state that THIS is the question he has been asked the most by coaches sounds like a gross exaggeration; why would they ask Parrish in the first place? Listen to the interview and form your own opinion.
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@Buster-1926 Not sure I buy the theory that SZ might be secretly undermining KU. Bad things that happen in college sports usually cause AD’s heads to be among the ones rolling away from the chopping block. And, when institutional control is implicated, they get fired for cause, not collecting their big buyouts.
But it definitely shows creative thinking!
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In all fairness, Zenger negotiated contracts for TV and now radio are head scratchers and KU fans in the KC are are not happy. You will not find many Zenger fans in this area.
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@Buster-1926 @JayHawkFanToo
Don’t get me wrong: I think he is clearly an idiot. I just don’t think a KSU alum could ever be capable of pulling off a scheme that sophisticated. Incompetence is a more believable explanation!
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I’ll toss out that I like 810 – better than the 610 in large part. KK has hammered some topics pretty well (on many other matters). We just know he’s a KSU guy, with that bias. They include Clinkscale who’s pro KU. At other times, Petro is pretty unbiased. The early morning guys are MU/KU, but I think both are pretty fair. I don’t know, I think we are maybe a touch sensitive when a topic like this hits home.
@Buster-1926 – I enjoy the old X-files episodes. There’s a new version. You might get the older versions of Scully and Mulder on this pronto. I like a good conspiracy theory.
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@HighEliteMajor 810 is better in the morning and afternoon. I agree. However, the 610 evening show, I like better. Unless Jack Harry is getting made fun of by KK. Which is my favorite weekly segment.
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This article suggests that the “hear and see no evil” defense might work to avoid vacatings. Based on the infamous Myron Piggie case and how Duke avoided losing its 1999 NC despite David Maggette having taken money. So, I take one step back from my pessimism. Then again, it was Duke…
http://m.kusports.com/news/2018/apr/13/former-prosecutor-ku-not-clear-yet-one-past-case-p/
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More importantly…kubuckets is back!
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@Buster-1926 I am going to make a few calls trying to get contracts for a few of those 5-stars going to Duke. Give their parents some frequent flyer miles or something.
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@Kcmatt7 that would make it a small group from everything I’ve seen.
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It’s called a “Duke call” and it is the same thing as what refs often give them. But other schools get Duke calls… UNC… Syracuse…
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Buster 1926 said:
@mayjay FWIW this is the first (contract) year that any KU sports coverage has been broadcasted on a clearly KSU & MU biased Entercom station & to be quite frank, Zenger is the first place anyone should look for a trail, whether it be blood, paper, or just the ever-so-subtle (HA!) shoe co tracks … :shoe:
Since when did 810 become Entercom?
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All eyes are focused on KU and DeSousa? All the recruiting experts are pissed they predicted him to Maryland and he chose KU?
Yet…Zion Williamson was predicted by the SAME recruiting experts to South Carolina, and yet he commits to Puke? Not one “expert,” or investigator finds that ODD?
Zion can choose Puke and it’s perfectly understandable, and DeSousa picks KU and the they investigate the Adidas shoe whore. They bring KU into question? Yet Coach K and Puke remain UNTOUCHABLE. Does anyone else see the bias? And yet the bball world is calling the “KU victim” claim bullshit? WOW…I can’t wait to see how far these investigations go into other programs and how many other programs are “CAUGHT” from their shoe whores influencing recruits. I’m sick of this shit and KU getting crucified as a villain. These same haters better be concerned about their own favorite programs because they are next.
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@truehawk93 I don’t get it either. What about Nike?
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Jay Bilas weighs in…
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article209167479.html
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BeddieKU23 said:
Jay Bilas weighs in…
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article209167479.html
HEM trigger warning.
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@BeddieKU23 Great read. I’ve always been a Bilas fan, he certainly had Kansas’ back in that article.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Jay Bilas weighs in…
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article209167479.html
HATERS PLEASE READ: (AKA DAN DAKICH)
JAY BILAS: … I read (one) article the other day, the one that was using unnamed sources on people like balking at Kansas using the term ‘victim.’ That’s not Kansas’ term. That’s what the government claims. That’s what the the government says. They (KU officials) didn’t pull that out of thin air. The United States government says they are a victim, That is their theory. I don’t understand why people won’t go on the record. What’s so horrible about it? If you’ve got the opinion that Kansas, they’re not victims, then why wouldn’t you stand behind that? I didn’t understand that one. To me that’s like an issue of petty jealousy. It’s like claiming UCLA wouldn’t have won all those championships if not for Sam Gilbert. The hell they wouldn’t of. They would have won them anyway.
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article209167479.html#storylink=cpy
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Bilas makes a strong case that the whole system relies on massive hypocrisy. But he is wrong about whether the schools are technically victims. You can be defrauded even if you get something as a result. Sure, KU got SDS as a result of the 2nd payment that sprang him from Maryland, but look at Billy to understand what harm a school can face when a player falsely enrolls as an amateur and that eligibility then gets questioned or rejected (financial waste of the scholarship, obviously, but also the risk of competitive imbalance, severe planning disruption, and, had he played, possible retroactive forfeits).
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@BeddieKU23 I love it when Bilas backs up KU. Some here dont tolerate his opinions too well but I kind of like the guy. He is intelligent, well spoken, appears to be honest. I love it when he goes to bat for Coach Self and KU. Especially since he is a Dukie.
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He could have easily piled on, but he didn’t. You have to respect how he sticks to his guns at all times.
To be honest, I know guys who played football at Butler CC and they even got paid. Random envelopes of cash would just end up in their mailboxes. Everyone is getting paid and has been for a long time.
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I liked his interview. I don’t always agree with him but he made some good points.
Its disturbing if what’s he saying about the basketball commission comes true, it doesn’t solve the issues at all. But he was absolutely right, the money talks, the money will always win out.
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To further add, the Billy situation led to Silvio in this convoluted mess. Which ugly duck is worse? We didn’t play one player we found to have eligibility concerns. But we ended pushing the other to come early and play only to find out his recruitment was full of back door dealings from the FBI. I fear the NCAA comes at KU and tries to connect the dots, especially if they rule Silvio ineligible a 2nd time around.
I agree with Bilas, there’s no way a school can monitor everything or be expected to.
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Nothing is going to happen to KU, or Silvio. Worst case Silvio would be suspended for a game … maybe. Sexton was suspended for a game.
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@Lulufulu I’ve always like Jay - and this was a very sweet article backing KU and Coach Self for sure
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KUSTEVE said:
Nothing is going to happen to KU, or Silvio. Worst case Silvio would be suspended for a game … maybe. Sexton was suspended for a game.
Not the same circumstances. I hope this all settles itself but there is probably no clarity in sight
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I just hope Silvio and his Guardian are cooperative with the NCAA and get it sorted out now instead of dragging it out into the season. I honestly believe that if Silvio had no idea he shouldn’t be penalized for his guardian.
If the FBI wanted to really make a difference, they would go after the parents.
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BShark said:
Kevin Knox played. Ayton played. Sexton played. Little and Quinerly will play. So Silvio can probably play. Doesn’t seem he had any knowledge of it, and didn’t see a dime. KU is certainly deep enough in the post to not play him. Wonder how it shakes out.
Why the hell would DeSousa not play? How long were the above mentioned players suspended? a game, a semester, or season? I call bullcrap. He better play and the NCAA better not touch Silvio.
The bball “Commissar,” I mean Commissioner…said the NCAA will not act. They did not act against Zona or Ayton. We still don’t know what the hell happened with Baggerly. This is a mess of smoke and mirrors…cloak and daggers. It simply shows just how inept the NCAA has been doing their job. If anything, this shows how horrible the NCAA has been at enforcing their own stupid rules. But like everyone knows, everyone makes money. Who is going to miss the gravy train?
It sucks they are using KU as a the guinea pig or case study. Let’s see what happens when the NCAA finds out that a Nike shoe whore snatched Zion at the last minute from SCarolina. Funny how SCarolina was also named as one of the earlier violators too. I guarantee this has given many of these teams like UNC, Puke and Kensucky a chance to cover their tracks, and consult with their shoe whores. Not one article has questioned how Puke stole Zion from SCarolina. Not one writer has even implied that Zion could possibly have the same violation.
This is what pisses me off how KU is crooked in the eyes of the bball world. And…they havent’ even been accused of doing anything wrong. Listen to Mellinger with the KCStar and Gary Parrish. They just keep feeding people bullshit about KU.
I spoke with a UK fan and they are very concerned their program is next. They have no idea what Cal has done. I guarantee you Coach K has been working night and day to clean up any signs of wrong doing.
I guarandamntee you this…If KU or Silvio gets any kind of punishment from this shit, KU’s legal team better be ready to unleash hell. This is bullshit to call out one program and penalize one program. You people thinking a “slap” on the wrist is going to happen, you better think again. The NCAA will have to cover their asses and make an example. Now, they have KU for their example. The sad thing is, this will take forever, but Silvio has done nothing, nor has his guardian. We should not have to sit him out, lose any games, or wins.
These other programs better be VERY NERVOUS. All these articles have all said one thing…all programs do the same thing to get recruits.
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mayjay said:
@Buster-1926 I am going to make a few calls trying to get contracts for a few of those 5-stars going to Duke. Give their parents some frequent flyer miles or something.
NO worries…Coach K has that covered. But its all legal…
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truehawk93 said:
The NCAA will have to cover their asses and make an example.
That has been their history. But they only slapped the wrists of Syracuse and North Carolina. Heck… what North Carolina did should have brought the feds in to prosecute. Their academic gift giving diminished the value for all other students graduating with a diploma from North Carolina. Cases of such magnitude should have invited federal prosecution.
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“It sucks they are using KU as a the guinea pig or case study.”
–@truehawk93
Cui bono?
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@Buster-1926 what was he like on the air?
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What does this have to do with the FBI investigation? Did I miss something?
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Disappointed to see him go, he was the voice of reason for KK
