I highly doubt that he is reconsidering his decision to attend Alabama. I’m not quite sure why these elite recruits are still choosing these mid level schools with average coaches. I think its one of two reasons:

1. PT is more important than winning.

2. If they do care about winning, (meaning winning an NCAA championship, final 4 appearance, even a conference championship) they have been drinking too much of the cool-aid fed to them during the recruiting process. Its clear that its not going to happen… lets take an early look at last year’s examples…

Cal: After finishing 8th out of 12 last year in their league, they landed two top 10 recruits. They are currently 4-2 and on a two game losing streak yet they have not even played another ranked team.

Miss St.: After finishing 12th out of 14 in their conference last year, they landed a top 10 recruit which many claimed to be a top 5 guy. They are currently 3-3 even though they haven’t played a ranked team yet. One of those losses came against the perennial doormat of the Big12 in Texas Tech.

LSU: After finishing 3rd in their league they landed the top overall recruit and have been at the top of the hype train all offseason. Unlike the other two teams listed above, I actually think this team will make the NCAA tournament this year despite their current 3-2 record (also yet to play a ranked team) and two game losing streak.

So… lets take a look at TFerg’s Alabama choice. How are they doing so far this year?

After an early season embarrassment loss to unranked Dayton 80-48, their current 4-2 season is at a historic high right now as they have defeated two ranked teams in a row for the first time since 2006! (beat #20 Wich St, and #17 ND). Wow, almost 10 years since they have last done that. I guess these are the kinds of things one can expect to celebrate at one of these type of programs.

Of course its still early and teams can get hot late and go on a run but its rare. The early indications that I see tell me that these schools are not changing very much from previous seasons based on these star recruits joining the team.

@jayballer54 Try to think of it this way, there are only 13 spots on the roster (scholarship spots) and when you subtract returning players, we can really only “win” on recruiting on a handful of players each year due to that alone. Don’t let the “misses” get you down.

Well how about that for timing, there is the first domino! Wow, that’s a big commitment that really wasn’t on the radar until Friday. Amazing.

Good, really didn’t want this guy. Not interested in the players that think they are above the program.

Piss poor game last night, team looked terrible in many ways. The biggest question I have after letting it set in for a while is “What is wrong with Coach Self?” Forget what I saw last night, its what I didn’t see. I didn’t see Coach Self getting heated, face red, trying to light a fire under the team that played flat, no energy, putrid defense, and just went through the motions. They weren’t diving for loose balls and lost almost all of the 50/50 balls, rebounding was terrible and got out worked for them all game, and so many stupid turnovers. Where is the Coach Self that I come to know and love? So many times last night somebody would have a bonehead turnover and I’d expect Self to lay into him but nothing. I knew they were going to lose last night in the first few minutes of the second half when nothing had changed. The energy level was the same, still not competing for rebounds, still playing lax defense, I knew at that point that they would lose. I’m used to seeing the team come out with a newfound energy after halftime with everybody suspecting the paint on the walls was being peeled off by Self’s “motivational” halftime talks. But not this time. Nothing. No fire on the sideline, no fire at halftime, nothing.

What is wrong with Coach Self??

@HighEliteMajor this is perhaps the best post i’ve ever read on here by anyone, i needed this. Thank you.

mayjay said:

I am having a hard time figuring out which posts are being responded to when there is just a name and no quote or specific player mentioned since we have multiple parallel posts from multiple posters about multiple players! Can y’all at least include the kid’s name rather than just “he”? Thanks!

Who are you responding to?

No. 7 recruit commits to Kansas

Cheick Diallo told ESPN’s Paul Biancardi that he felt Kansas was the best place for him: “I can earn playing time right away. I played against Joel Embiid in high school and watched his development. I need to work on a lot of things and feel Coach Self can help my game.”

@jayballer54 @JayHawkFanToo yep ok, that’s what I thought. I think the post could be read a few different ways which is why there was some confusion.

Would be very happy to see TF commit to KU. Really love the loyal kids that know KU and know its where they want to be and don’t waste all of the coaches time dragging things out. If TF commits, the KU coaches can focus their efforts on the other recruits and building a better team for next year. You never know but it could be the difference in landing a recruit or two. Or perhaps more importantly, landing the right recruit or two for KU.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@drgnslayr said in What we all knew was happening at Duke with Zion is finally hitting the fan.:

@Texas-Hawk-10

KU played no part in those payments and were found to be victims in that process. What is alleged at Duke is Duke participated in payment to Zion’s family.

Doesn’t matter if KU knew or not. Players received impermissible benefits and then played games for KU which means KU played ineligible players. KU has acknowledged this and are not arguing against that so they will get punishments for that. What IARP decision will affect is anything beyond what I previously said in regards to punishment. If the IARP upholds the NCAA’s case against KU, then all of those level 1 violations get upheld which brings coaching suspensions, show-cause bans, and postseason bans into play as well. Those penalties aren’t in play for what KU has acknowledged has happened.

What players are you referring to exactly? The only player i’m aware of is Silvio which was through his “handler”, and he got his largest impermissible benefit from Under Armor to go to Maryland. He would never have gotten anything from Adidas if it wasn’t for UA/MD giving his handler money to begin with. All of which KU elected to sit out Silvio over a year for already.

@HighEliteMajor said in NOA response from KU discussion:

It’s a move of complete desperation. Discovery goes both ways and as I have did before, Self, Townsend, et. al., don’t want to be under oath.

While @Texas-Hawk-10 is late to the party on the scorched earth (I pointed this out a while back) … I was the one that said just after Self’s infamous denial (lies) in October of 2018. That we should make it clear before the NCAA made findings that we’d go scorched earth. Now? Good luck. The NCAA can’t give in at this stage.

I also said after Self’s infamous denials (lies), the risk was very high that this ends Self’s tenure at KU. Largely scoffed at by most everyone here. Folks guaranteeing that was wrong.

So now when Self references doing what everyone else did - cheating - makes you really wonder about those denials (lies). As I have said repeatedly, if you say everyone else does it, you are admitting the impropriety.

Why would the NCAA, an entity run by and supported by the colleges, be scared of this silly and baseless lawsuit threat?

Absolute desperation with the walls closing in. Good grief, look at OSU’s penalties. Those are much worse than the consensus “slap on the wrist” we routinely heard here.

The hammer is coming.

I’m sorry, but I have called this from the start. I’ve listened to folks attack, call names, make accusations, and say utterly senseless things related to this issue in response.

Yet many folks here have persisted with the opinion to attack the NCAA, to sue, all this complete baloney. Look where we are now.

There was one posting flurry where challenging Self’s honesty, when we all know he’s a liar, led to outrageous attacks and name calling from many here. And utterly stupid analogies to speeding. Just the worst of this site.

Now look at your hero. He’s pathetic.

This is horrible. Self has put us here.

We now see our coach do what no other coach has really done. Desperate and again, embarrassing.

Bill Self, the liar, needs to resign. Now. Please. It’s time. He is causing further damage to the program and university. A complete embarrassment.

You’ve been right about a lot of stuff over the years, i certainly hope this is not one of them. In this day and age where we live in the United States of Apology i’m glad Self is not bending over and apologizing to the NCAA bully. He is standing up to them and is being a fighter. I like that. Could this decision create a worse result in the end? Yep. But i’m ok with that. The NCAA is selectively enforcing its rules and giving out punishments dis-proportionally to programs based on bias with KU being its “make an example” target. While they have the power to do so, its not right. I’d rather go down as a fighter vs laying down just to be the NCAA’s trophy mounted on the wall above their fireplace.

But is that 100% true? Or did Adidas pay those players to attend an Adidas school?

Unless TJ Gassnola perjured himself after he pled guilty, then his testimony is solid enough to trust at face value. His testimony indicated that money changed hands on behalf of himself and Adidas to representatives of players (family members or guardians) to encourage players to commit to Kansas, NC State, Louisville, whatever school was recruiting the player at the time. The $20,000 payment Gassnola was attempting to make to Silvio’s guardian, but never made due to the announcement of the investigation was so Silvio’s guardian could pay back money to Under Armour who had allegedly paid $60,000 to bring Silvio to Maryland. I believe Billy Preston’s mom received $120,000 from Gassnola to attend KU.

It still amazes me how harsh everyone thinks these supposed infractions are. To me, its weak af. Its not against NCAA rules to give a person money to attend a school. Any incoming student can get money from a friend, a company, whoever and attend the school requested. Adidas can give a standard student all the money they want to attend a school and not break any rules. The problem is when the person is an ncaa athlete. Where does that line begin? Are you considered an ncaa athlete if you never participate in an NCAA event? Preston didn’t play a second of ball at KU in a regular season game. To me, that makes him basically like every other student at KU that has never played in a game and thus no infraction was made. Was he close? Heck yeah. But KU should be praised for catching it and making the right move to hold him out.

Silvio is another one. This kid bucks the system and says i want to attend KU despite UA throwing money at his “handler” to go to Maryland. Doesn’t want the money or more likely doesn’t even know about it and chooses KU because thats where he wants to go. The handler looks to Adidas for help paying back UA which may or may not have happened depending on who’s story you believe. Let me ask a hypothetical, what if Adidas didn’t pay anything to Silvio’s handler or never was asked to? You have a kid who’s “handler” was given money to attend Maryland, but he attends KU instead. Is KU still in violation? This could possibly be what happened and UA is not being talked about at all in this.

I guess there was something about $2,500 that Silvio got for something but the kid sat out over a year for it. Seems like it could have been paid back fairly easily or the year plus punishment is more than enough. The punishments don’t quite fit the crime. The ncaa seems to always be excessively extreme towards KU whenever something isn’t right relative to their actions towards other players at other schools.

I’m not ignorant where i think there isn’t this stuff happening a lot behind the scenes at almost all the schools, including KU. However, if you’re going to bring a case and try to drop the hammer to make an example of someone, you’d think they’d get some better evidence to support their case.

@approxinfinity Yes, thank you for finding that. Its been a while but thats exactly how i remember it.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@RockkChalkk said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

The Ivy League is a totally different animal in this matter because those schools are truly academics first. They don’t allow redshirts, even medical, so none of their spring sports athletes are getting their extra year of eligibility. They also don’t give athletic scholarships, all athletes are on academic scholarship at Ivy League schools.

Are you sure about that? Medical redshirts are a thing at Ivy schools, at least they were. Maybe its a new-ish rule change that i wasn’t aware of.

And just because you’re an athlete at an Ivy doesn’t mean you’re on an academic scholarship.

The Ivy League does not grant redshirts of any kind.

“Although the NCAA allows athletes to use their four years of eligibility within a five-year span, the Ivy League does not follow this protocol. The league requires athletes to use their eligibility during the first four years of their enrollment and doesn’t allow medical redshirts.”

That is from Sports Illustrated last month in reference to the NCAA waiver granting all spring sport athletes an extra year of eligibility and Ivy League’s decision to reject the waiver because of its policies in regards to redshirts.

Interesting. I personally know a handful of people that have done it so maybe its a rule change. Or maybe there is a lenient process to get a waiver from this rule. Don’t know.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

The Ivy League is a totally different animal in this matter because those schools are truly academics first. They don’t allow redshirts, even medical, so none of their spring sports athletes are getting their extra year of eligibility. They also don’t give athletic scholarships, all athletes are on academic scholarship at Ivy League schools.

Are you sure about that? Medical redshirts are a thing at Ivy schools, at least they were. Maybe its a new-ish rule change that i wasn’t aware of.

And just because you’re an athlete at an Ivy doesn’t mean you’re on an academic scholarship.

@BShark said in KU Team Picking Thinger:

@RockkChalkk said in KU Team Picking Thinger:

For me: Frank ($5), TRob ($5), DDot ($3), Josh ($1), and Rele ($1). That was my first gut reaction/picks because Svi turned it over too much for my liking but upon second thought he would actually fit great in that team with the two point guards and basically could just be the 3 point sniper.

Interesting line-up but not much shooting. Releford basically had to be wide open.

@BShark @dylans its funny how all of our lasting memories of these players varies. I actually thought my lineup did have shooting - haha. I remembered Releford being solid from three (Sr Year only, before that was yikes!) and Frank great. Also never minded Dotson shooting a three either. Went back and looked up stats… in their final years Releford 42% from 3, Frank 47%, and Dotson just 31%. First two were higher than i would have guessed and Dotson lower.

For me: Frank ($5), TRob ($5), DDot ($3), Josh ($1), and Rele ($1). That was my first gut reaction/picks because Svi turned it over too much for my liking but upon second thought he would actually fit great in that team with the two point guards and basically could just be the 3 point sniper.

@Marco said in 2020 Recruiting:

@Crimsonorblue22 Window dressing. We have a difference in opinion, don’t shoot me. Imo he is not a good person, let alone - how old is he? - kid. He tried to - after starting the fight - bring (changed his mind only after someone from behind changed it for him, reminding him of what the fuck he was about ready to do) a chair to what was his fist fight.

It doesn’t sound like you saw the clip showing that Silvio dropped the chair himself. It wasn’t taken from him.

Just the other day, my sister who works on a jobsite in Connecticut said they were doing some roadwork excavation, had the area blocked off with some big roadway cones and police officers helping direct traffic. At one point, a car did not obey the officer directing traffic, rolled slowly into the barricade, almost into the excavation where people were working. The officers approached the car and find the driver slumped over, starting to turn purple, bags of drugs in the passenger seat. The driver was overdosing. They gave him those meds that bring him back and basically save him. Driver says he is on his way to pick up his kid from school. Officers proceed to allow him to drive away. When the angry construction workers who almost got rolled up on ask the officers why they let him go with the drugs out everywhere they said that they are instructed to not arrest black people for drug offenses. If the person was white, he would have been arrested per the cop.