How long does it take for Bill to realize that the long ball wins games and he needs to recruit accordingly?

Yeah, everyone’s at fault here, including the kid and his parents. These kids aren’t dumb, nor are their parents. They know what’s going on, Adidas knows what’s going on, and Kansas knows what’s going on. Everyone’s at fault for breaking the NCAA rules. Doesn’t mean those rules are right, but even if they aren’t, it doesn’t mean people have a right to break them.

Yeah, Garrett is gonna have to play the 4. Hopefully he’s not tempted to shoot the 3. If Dedric gets hot and we have one other strong 3 point shooter, and Garrett plays the 4 for the majority of the game, we win.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/dec/13/although-it-still-stung-kansas-coach-bill-self-fou/

I get the feeling that Self still thinks shooting 3s doesn’t win championships. It’s like he was saying, “we did everything right, they just made shots.”

Well, Bill, people who get that far have dudes who make shots. You can’t double down low and leave a wing wide open or they’ll make you pay.

There are so many parallels to the NFL. It’s all about the long ball now. Teams are fine giving up larger chunks in the running game, so long as they’re not killed by the long ball. And you don’t win NFL games with running.

And you’re not going to win the Tourney unless you a) hit 3s and guard the 3.

This is an ugly brand of basketball we’re playing.

Bwag said:

AsadZ said:

yeah this is frustrating, coaches need to emphasize this point in practice and tape watching.

Or is this behavior part of a defensive philosophy that is coached from before the 3 point shot proficiency became a defining characteristic of players games and 3 pt > 2pt strategy worked its way into more and more coachds philosophy.

Self was always until last 2-3 years an Inside-Out coach. Makes me wonder that he hasn’t completely adjusted to the new reality in his defensive coaching philosophy and practice. Not a knock, just this kind of thing has happened now for years And we don’t seem to have fully adapted. Obviously, there is always an element of execution vs plan that falls on the players but can’t help but wonder if one thing is drilled over and over, and the other is a once in a while instruction and players fall to form versus remembering instruction on case by case basis. Some teams and coaches seem to be much more oriented to both offensive and defensive mindset and player performance on the 3 line.

Exactly. He’s rather get beat by the 3 than the 2, and he’d rather win with the 2 than the 3. It’s about being a man. In his mind, at least.

BShark said:

Self called Garrett the best player tonight. Sometimes Self can be wrong. It’s okay to think this or discuss the possibility. No reason to stifle discussion.

This.

Uh, what was that officiating comment about from the commentator?

@BeddieKU23 you mention the team is a work in progress, which it looks like they are. But it seems like they shouldn’t be. From a team standpoint obviously, it’ll take a little time to get them to gel. But from an individual standpoint, I’m surprised they’re not better. Plus we missed out on a lot of 50/50 balls that I think we’d normally get. Hopefully this was just a sleeper game, similar to the Chiefs vs. Cardinals.

Is there precedent of vacated seasons due to ineligibility of students even though it was unknown to the university?

Even so, if it turns out that KU had no knowledge and that the charge is defrauding universities, then would the NCAA enforce a further penalty (vacated season) to a defrauded university? I would assume not as it would be a terrible PR move.