FBI
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Small caveat is that no coaches are listed in the Kansas section
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Sadly, I think the description on the second matches Garrett closer than Billy
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Does sound like De Sousa. If that is the case, also sounds like they got blackmailed by UA. It was KU or Maryland right?
No coaches listed. Players dealing directly with Adidas. JJ’s mom could absolutely be in deep shit here though if she didn’t claim everything correctly.
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I think KU is going to be fine. The first player is Billy, the second Silvio. They payments were intentionally hidden to defraud KU. It says specifically Silvio wanted to come to KU anyway.
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The FBI says that player 2/guardian 1 needed Adidas funds to repay illicit payments from another shoe company. The player did not want to attend another school since the player was more interested in KU. So the FBI is saying another shoe company was making payments to players.
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Isn’t there is a major ineligibility problem, though, if the players received payments? At minimum, vacating the F4, tourney appearances in 2017 and 2018, and all our victories in both seasons?
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MR11 said:
Sadly, I think the description on the second matches Garrett closer than Billy
Incorrect.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
I think KU is going to be fine. The first player is Billy, the second Silvio. They payments were intentionally hidden to defraud KU. It says specifically Silvio wanted to come to KU anyway.
Facts
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The NCAA is going to clear Nas Little and Quinerly. We’ll be fine.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
The NCAA is going to clear Nas Little and Quinerly. We’ll be fine.
Lol for real.
I mean, we now know why Preston didn’t play. KU was smart enough to actually figure it out. Missed it with Silvio but that situation sounds very weird.
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@mayjay If Kansas didn’t know of ineligibility issues during the season, it won’t have to vacate any wins.
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I mean just shocking that Preston’s mom took money right?
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Also this means Maryland paid for Silvio, lol.
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BShark said:
Also this means Maryland paid for Silvio, lol.
Don’t worry we are still the a-holes to them
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mayjay said:
Isn’t there is a major ineligibility problem, though, if the players received payments? At minimum, vacating the F4, tourney appearances in 2017 and 2018, and all our victories in both seasons?
I guess it could be seen that way…i still think there needs to implicit evidence that ku was involved which seems to not be the case. Billy never played. Silvio is a different story but I believe what I stated above would be needed as well to implicate the program?
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Also this means Maryland paid for Silvio, lol.
Don’t worry we are still the a-holes to them
Oh without a doubt.
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@BShark good statement. Repeat the indictment’s language and say you’re good to cooperate with the investigation, and ignore the NCAA.
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@BeddieKU23 No one at UMass knew about Camby’s money did they? Or Villanova, with Porter?
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These days, all KU Athletics needs to do is say the magic words in a tweet… FAKE NEWS!
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OK guys so now you get to see my real stupidity .- so bare with me as I ask these questions. - -First I believe whether we are guilty of ANYTHING of not and it says that the University is a victim here not a defendant - but I do think this whole scenario if he hadn’t already decided I and some others I’ve talked too says they feel this here will be just enough to steer Romeo away from committing here. - I think he is now out or we are now out of the picture for him I’m afraid.
Now my questions: - -Guys do you think this will have any effect on our other 4 commits ? - will they ask for a release? - or will they stick with us? - I’m just asking. - -Have we seen the last of Silvio now?
Bottom line my friends where do we end up at the end of the day with this is done? - Any penalities? - I mean we all know for sure it was Josh - -but KU ( the University was not involved there at all - -that was between Gatto and Apples right? - we had NOTHING our hands was not in that kettle right? - -someone help me out - what happens to us? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@SlickRockJayhawk I like the “We’re VICTIMS!” card.
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@jayballer73 not josh or his mom
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People assumed Josh. It was Billy. @jayballer73
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Kevin Knox played. Ayton played. Sexton played. Little and Quinerly will play. So Silvio can probably play. Doesn’t seem he had any knowledge of it, and didn’t see a dime. KU is certainly deep enough in the post to not play him. Wonder how it shakes out.
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If the NCAA does anything, they’ll give Silvio a slap on the wrist a la Selby. Worst possible case is the entire season suspension like Wiley at Auburn. But I think a semester may be a realistic expectation.
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@mayjay sounds like Joe Monaco has already played that card. But it’s not nebulus enough to be effective
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Apparently on April 25th the basketball commission will be releasing their findings & resolutions for the NCAA.
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Yea I reread it, and it is definitely Billy instead of Josh. My bad.
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This really sucks. So, i guess this means all the Nike recruits are all going to KY and Dook because they want the college experience, and aren’t receiving a dime. Yeah, right. This was simply a plan to take out a foreign competitor through the long arm of the law. If they were actually investigating fraud, I think everyone of the KY recruits have been paid, as well as every one of Dooks. But, we will never know that, will we? Because they will NEVER truly investigate Nike.
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@KUSTEVE On the bright side, no way KU sticks with Adidas lol.
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@KUSTEVE I’d just give it a minute. I’m sure the Nike hammer will come.
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If I was joshs mom…
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@BShark ya well sounded pretty logical to umm LOTS - not just jayballer 73 lmao. - But we know you didn’t give that a thought right? - - Sure you didn’t it’s ok. - go ahead cast those stones lmao. still ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY.
Oh ya guess you didn’t feel like to answer the important question that I ask huh? - like in the end run how is this going to effect us - Penalities? - De-Commits? - -Ya I’ll say it again even if the University has no wrong doing in this - -This kind of pub is just what Indiana ordered for the Romeo recruitment. - -Couldn’t have come at a better time for them. - That’s ok though if it does - -were still gonna be fine. - We were fine before Romeo- and he now doesn’t come- we still be fine - ok ready - -GO - -throw those stones lmao
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I doubt there will be any decommits.
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Maybe we can get a contract for our shoe’s wear the " BIG BALLER BRAND ROFLMAO " - just kidding. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Kcmatt7 Matt… you’re just too connected to the concept of equal justice, fairness, impartiality, and general goodness to believe this a true hit, and not a random event under a system of fairness that will eventually getting around to punishing the KYs and the Dooks of the Nike Empire. Adidas- “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer” / Nike- “Shuffle some papers. Make it look good”. It appears the FBI is doing it’s best to run Adidas out of this country.
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The indictment says Gatto and others concealed payments to the first Kansas player by transferring money to an AAU team controlled by the unidentified Adidas consultant. He delivered $30,000 to the mother at a hotel room in New York on Oct. 31, 2016, and another $20,000 in cash at a hotel room in Las Vegas on Jan. 19, 2017. The consultant also wired $15,000 to the player’s mother on June 14, 2017.
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Billy Preston’s mom ladies and gentlemen!
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@BShark Dodge Charger.
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@BShark That IS a bright side.
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If they bought that charger with the money they are some of the dumbest people
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@BeddieKU23 I mean…you’ve read some of Billy’s mom’s twitter right?
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Yes, her son is Jesus or something like that and he’s a millionaire, well apparently just a thousandaire. Whatever the case they sure didn’t hide their stupidity
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How surprising. This woman, who projected her actions were keeping her son pristine, took money? And the Charger was dirty? Shocked.
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Doesn’t Adidas have interest in Jackson going to KU just as much (if not more) than KU does? I could obviously see how KU would be interested in bending the rules a little to get a talent like that, but I’d bet there’s some guys within the Adidas camp that are a lot more desperate than Self and Co. I just hope KU doesn’t have to vacate any wins due to Jackson being technically ineligible.
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chriz said:
Doesn’t Adidas have interest in Jackson going to KU just as much (if not more) than KU does? I could obviously see how KU would be interested in bending the rules a little to get a talent like that, but I’d bet there’s some guys within the Adidas camp that are a lot more desperate than Self and Co. I just hope KU doesn’t have to vacate any wins due to Jackson being technically ineligible.
Josh is, at least currently, not involved. The current stuff is about Preston and Silvio.
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Josh’s mom got $90k didn’t she?