Did Bill cost us the game by not pulling Doke in light of OU strategy of fouling Doke every time?

I say yes.

Yes, I used the word “hate”. Used it somewhere else and was called a “meanie, not nice.” I don’t use the word often, some may even say I’m too nice, so I don’t get too worried when a snowflake doesn’t like my use of it. Here is why:

“When I was trying to get open, he held my arm and pulled my sleeve down,” Graham said of a West Virginia defender. “It was just hanging on my hand, so I took it off and threw it away.”

This lays it all out. They are dirty. They foul so much that refs swallow their whistle to call only the most egregious fouls.

Yes, they are called for more fouls than others.

I. Don’t. Care.

Their constant fouling is rewarded by non-whistles throughout the game. And it is especially galling that touch fouls are being called on the other team to keep it somewhat balanced.

32-2 FTA’s.

I don’t care.

Every one of their games should see that type of disparity.

That said - they better make some noise in the big dance like the rest of the Big 12 teams. I’ll root for their success out of the league only because the Big 12 is so sorry in the post season.

Rant over.

Silvio’s taunt precipitated the fight but KSU started the fight. If they don’t rush the court and start the fight, Silvio is T’d up and game ends in a basketball manner. End of story.

FTA

OU - 15

KU - 1

Stats aren’t normally my thing, but I’ve been inspired by some on the site to look at things more closely, so there are a few that I’m not sure about. But here it goes for discussion or commentary.

All stats are from www.TeamRanking.com. I’ve cut it down to the C5 and tried to remove duplicate stats in various categories. I’ve color coded based on the following:

Generally: Green/Yellow are good. Red/Pink bad. Players are listed in the order of Avg Min/Game playing time.

Green highlighted means this was a team high category for the player (from among all players). Yellow highlighted was best within the C5 subset of players. Green number is best of the 5 within a negative category (ex. TO, PF)

Red Highlighted - Team High (all players) bad. Pink highlighting worst among the C5 subset in a negative category; red numbers is worst among the C5 subset.

Here is my best attempt at classifying mere counts of categories that each player has for Positive/Best & Negative/Worst with Team Hi categories called out in [brackets]:

Positives/Best (Per Min Stats):

JT - 3 categories (FT%, FTR%, TS%)

LL - 5 categories ( [Team Hi - RB/m, ORB/m, DRB/m], FG%, eFG%)

CB - 6 categories (Asst(T), 3PM/3PA/3P%, Steals/PF, PF/m

HM - 11 categories ( [Team Hi - Blk/m, Blk/PF, EFF, WIN] Ast/m (T), Ast/TO, Stl/PF, TO/m, GmSc, Blk/PF, DEF/PF)

CD - 5 categories ( [Team Hi - Pts/m, FGM/m, FGA/m], FTM/m, FTA/m)

Negatives/Worst (Per Min Stats):

JT - 6 categories (Pt/m, RB/m (t), FGM, FGA, EFF, GmScr)

LL- 3 categories (Blk/m, Blk/PF, DEF/PF)

CB- 6 categories (RB/m (T), FTM/m, FTA/m, FT%, FTA%, DRB/m)

HM- 3 categories (FG%, eFG%, TS%)

CD - 8 categories ([Team Hi - PF/m] Asst/m, Stl/m, TO/m, AS/TO, WIN, Stl/PF, ORB/m)

Keep in mind order of player stats is in allotted average min/game. Realize stats don’t tell the whole story, which a major point was made after TTU game about the efficacy of a screen for example. But realize also, that within the constrained resource pool (minutes), the concept of opportunity cost should be considered.

I’ll admit that I know very little about the WIN, TS%, and GmSc stats, but find that these composite stat roll ups, along with EFF are pretty much in the Hunter Mickelson positive section with a couple of those being TEAM HIGH numbers. Find it interesting that he dominates the Positives and is tied for team low in Negatives.

As far as Diallo, guess it’s not surprising about his playing time, he’s come into games in limited minutes and taken his shot and not gotten others into the game (until more recently at least) even though he has hit at a decent rate/min. However, he doesn’t lead in either True Shooting % or eFG% and his overall negative categories lead the C5 pack not to mention big contributor at PF/minute that brings him to the bench as much as probably anything.

Bragg, 3 of his Positive categories are related to shooting and hitting a few 3 pointers. At this point in the career and on this team, probably not where we need help.

As has been point of contention among the board members: Jamari trailer has the fewest statistical Positive categories and is tied at 2nd worst in Negative category stats count. He gets the most minutes / game. Therein lies the controversy amongst us clearly!

That’s it for my analysis for now. I think we all agree to an extent that having the number of relatively talented bodies in the C5 isn’t a bad thing and could be good at times. Playing time allocation for both short and long term goals can be hotly argued and has been!

@jaybate-1.0 said:

@DoubleDD

so Self fouled Travis

Self countered with long treys.

I rechecked the stat sheet, didn’t see any Self fouls or made 3’s.

Id rather be arguing about playing time between, LL, HUnter Mickelson or C Diallo

ESPN enough of split screen. We don’t give a flying flip about looking at Bill Walton or the other shmuck announcing n two hours of sleep

I’ve got it on good authority that Stumpy Miller is not going to replace Self at KU when Self retires.

JayHawkFanToo said:

Malik, Most Outstanding Player of the Midwest Regional.

Think about the comparison of Malik to Trae Y. Self bent Malik to become a complete player and then this: MOP & going to Final 4.

Kruger sold his basketball coach soul to get Trae - whose dad apparently told Self he wouldnt let Trae play his game so he wasn’t coming to Kansas - and look at where he’s at, sitting at home after a total team meltdown.

Saw my shadow, six more weeks of hibernation.

So much for watching my first game of the season.

@nuleafjhawk Thanks for the concern. Not at all depressed. Just came to a realization that I don’t need sports when they mix politics and stupid politics at that.

Focused on trying to retire by putting my investments on steroids. Working hard via Zoom (yes, that’s kinda depressing). And ride my mountain bike nearing 1500 miles on beautiful single track trails this year.

@approxinfinity haven’t thought about BLM since the season began either. BTW, when did the season start? I just had had enough of sports being politicized with stupid communist groups and socially destructive movements. Big fan of Jason Whitlock and his perspective.

At this point, it’s as much I won’t pay for a feed that support idiot tv stations. May pick some games to go to a bar/restaurant and watch. But will no longer support Universities. Don’t care if they burn down and go broke. Actually, hope they burn down and go broke.

Guess that’s why I posted here and not on the bball section. I think we’re ranked and doing well. Guess one thing that made me aware college bball was going on was an article with Mike Consonants saying the season should be cancelled when Zero Hedge was laughing at him because his team was something like 2-2 since no home court advantage.

When the university and the b-ball team went all BLM here earlier this year, I turned them off in my feeds and didn’t even read the news daily like I had for years. Didn’t even realize the season had started in November. Haven’t watched a game. Haven’t read a news story. Don’t think I could tell you a player on the team other than a holdover or two.

Did cruise through here once when I realized a game was being played to see what kinda action was going on. Still debating whether to care or not.

Had cut off most professional sports several years ago. Never thought I’d renounce my Jayhawk basketball but seems wasn’t all that hard when the shit just gets too deep. Not saying won’t dip back in but no way to watch and won’t pay for ESPN bullshit. So, what’s one to do.

Thought I’d pop in, say hi. Might check back to see if there are any good reasons to come in from the cold.

B

Leave mask off all together. It’s bullshit.

Not as much a Univeristy wokeness. Did the season start. Out - maybe

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/hydroxychloroquine-morality-tale

Basically it’s all an overblown election year stunt. Sure the disease is bad for a subset of people, but the hysteria and the politicalization of medicine and science has been over the top.

@hawkfan01 hire the private detectives now.

@drgnslayr one could argue that if the NCAA doesn’t come down on us, we are no longer a victim, I suppose. But I might also then argue that the fact that we had to defend ourselves makes the case that we were a victim.

Hmmm