Did Bill cost us the game by not pulling Doke in light of OU strategy of fouling Doke every time?

I say yes.

Yes, I used the word “hate”. Used it somewhere else and was called a “meanie, not nice.” I don’t use the word often, some may even say I’m too nice, so I don’t get too worried when a snowflake doesn’t like my use of it. Here is why:

“When I was trying to get open, he held my arm and pulled my sleeve down,” Graham said of a West Virginia defender. “It was just hanging on my hand, so I took it off and threw it away.”

This lays it all out. They are dirty. They foul so much that refs swallow their whistle to call only the most egregious fouls.

Yes, they are called for more fouls than others.

I. Don’t. Care.

Their constant fouling is rewarded by non-whistles throughout the game. And it is especially galling that touch fouls are being called on the other team to keep it somewhat balanced.

32-2 FTA’s.

I don’t care.

Every one of their games should see that type of disparity.

That said - they better make some noise in the big dance like the rest of the Big 12 teams. I’ll root for their success out of the league only because the Big 12 is so sorry in the post season.

Rant over.

Silvio’s taunt precipitated the fight but KSU started the fight. If they don’t rush the court and start the fight, Silvio is T’d up and game ends in a basketball manner. End of story.

FTA

OU - 15

KU - 1

Stats aren’t normally my thing, but I’ve been inspired by some on the site to look at things more closely, so there are a few that I’m not sure about. But here it goes for discussion or commentary.

All stats are from www.TeamRanking.com. I’ve cut it down to the C5 and tried to remove duplicate stats in various categories. I’ve color coded based on the following:

Generally: Green/Yellow are good. Red/Pink bad. Players are listed in the order of Avg Min/Game playing time.

Green highlighted means this was a team high category for the player (from among all players). Yellow highlighted was best within the C5 subset of players. Green number is best of the 5 within a negative category (ex. TO, PF)

Red Highlighted - Team High (all players) bad. Pink highlighting worst among the C5 subset in a negative category; red numbers is worst among the C5 subset.

Here is my best attempt at classifying mere counts of categories that each player has for Positive/Best & Negative/Worst with Team Hi categories called out in [brackets]:

Positives/Best (Per Min Stats):

JT - 3 categories (FT%, FTR%, TS%)

LL - 5 categories ( [Team Hi - RB/m, ORB/m, DRB/m], FG%, eFG%)

CB - 6 categories (Asst(T), 3PM/3PA/3P%, Steals/PF, PF/m

HM - 11 categories ( [Team Hi - Blk/m, Blk/PF, EFF, WIN] Ast/m (T), Ast/TO, Stl/PF, TO/m, GmSc, Blk/PF, DEF/PF)

CD - 5 categories ( [Team Hi - Pts/m, FGM/m, FGA/m], FTM/m, FTA/m)

Negatives/Worst (Per Min Stats):

JT - 6 categories (Pt/m, RB/m (t), FGM, FGA, EFF, GmScr)

LL- 3 categories (Blk/m, Blk/PF, DEF/PF)

CB- 6 categories (RB/m (T), FTM/m, FTA/m, FT%, FTA%, DRB/m)

HM- 3 categories (FG%, eFG%, TS%)

CD - 8 categories ([Team Hi - PF/m] Asst/m, Stl/m, TO/m, AS/TO, WIN, Stl/PF, ORB/m)

Keep in mind order of player stats is in allotted average min/game. Realize stats don’t tell the whole story, which a major point was made after TTU game about the efficacy of a screen for example. But realize also, that within the constrained resource pool (minutes), the concept of opportunity cost should be considered.

I’ll admit that I know very little about the WIN, TS%, and GmSc stats, but find that these composite stat roll ups, along with EFF are pretty much in the Hunter Mickelson positive section with a couple of those being TEAM HIGH numbers. Find it interesting that he dominates the Positives and is tied for team low in Negatives.

As far as Diallo, guess it’s not surprising about his playing time, he’s come into games in limited minutes and taken his shot and not gotten others into the game (until more recently at least) even though he has hit at a decent rate/min. However, he doesn’t lead in either True Shooting % or eFG% and his overall negative categories lead the C5 pack not to mention big contributor at PF/minute that brings him to the bench as much as probably anything.

Bragg, 3 of his Positive categories are related to shooting and hitting a few 3 pointers. At this point in the career and on this team, probably not where we need help.

As has been point of contention among the board members: Jamari trailer has the fewest statistical Positive categories and is tied at 2nd worst in Negative category stats count. He gets the most minutes / game. Therein lies the controversy amongst us clearly!

That’s it for my analysis for now. I think we all agree to an extent that having the number of relatively talented bodies in the C5 isn’t a bad thing and could be good at times. Playing time allocation for both short and long term goals can be hotly argued and has been!

@jaybate-1.0 said:

@DoubleDD

so Self fouled Travis

Self countered with long treys.

I rechecked the stat sheet, didn’t see any Self fouls or made 3’s.

Id rather be arguing about playing time between, LL, HUnter Mickelson or C Diallo

ESPN enough of split screen. We don’t give a flying flip about looking at Bill Walton or the other shmuck announcing n two hours of sleep

I’ve got it on good authority that Stumpy Miller is not going to replace Self at KU when Self retires.

JayHawkFanToo said:

Malik, Most Outstanding Player of the Midwest Regional.

Think about the comparison of Malik to Trae Y. Self bent Malik to become a complete player and then this: MOP & going to Final 4.

Kruger sold his basketball coach soul to get Trae - whose dad apparently told Self he wouldnt let Trae play his game so he wasn’t coming to Kansas - and look at where he’s at, sitting at home after a total team meltdown.

@jayballer73 playing with free minds most of the game once we got some separation. Not convinced it’s transferrable to future. That said, hope confidence carries forward to prove me wrong.

@BShark he didn’t have room to succumb to his almamateritis this year.

@BShark agreed generally. An offensive philosophy that is outside oriented that doesn’t rely on inside-out I don’t think we’ve figured out yet.

@Marco said in Hangover II Game Thread:

@Bwag said in Hangover II Game Thread:

@BShark OSU isn’t pressuring us. So it looks great right now.

You got it.

That’s where I agree with @BShark - a defense approach that Villi ova has deployed against us is a potential problem.

@BShark OSU isn’t pressuring us. So it looks great right now.

@Marco we’re on a roll, but I feel like I’m turning into Coach Self. How do we get better? Where are and how do we shore up weaknesses and prepare for that which we’ve not yet prepared?

@Marco said in Hangover II Game Thread:

We got this game.

Thanks. I feel better now. We now dub you honorary ‘Captain Obvious’.

OSU on road, not in Stillwater. Are we surprised?

Dave “popcorn” McCormack. Turn and pop.

@BShark yeah, I’m not sure we can break free offensively from a ‘stink on poop’ defense.