IARP update



  • Self is simply trying to portray KU as “behind” in NIL stuff in order to imply we weren’t already giving kids extra benefits.

    For a more concise expression of this sentiment, review the police captain’s surprise that gambling was going on in Rick’s joint in Casablanca.



  • I think the key moving forward is to realize there are still rules governing players and universities. The rules have changed… but we have to abide by those rules.

    Makes me wonder… since college basketball is so competitive… what are the new areas to cheat in and give your school an advantage? There has to be that line again.

    Anyone like to comment on that?



  • @drgnslayr said in IARP update:

    I think the key moving forward is to realize there are still rules governing players and universities. The rules have changed… but we have to abide by those rules.

    Makes me wonder… since college basketball is so competitive… what are the new areas to cheat in and give your school an advantage? There has to be that line again.

    Anyone like to comment on that?

    It’s still all about “boosters”. That’s the gray area. How you define booster in the days of NIL is baffling to me.

    Boosters still cannot recruit nor funnel money to recruits.

    But, they are setting up shell companies to do just that. How do you defend that if you’re the NCAA?



  • @rockchalkjayhawk said in IARP update:

    @drgnslayr said in IARP update:

    I think the key moving forward is to realize there are still rules governing players and universities. The rules have changed… but we have to abide by those rules.

    Makes me wonder… since college basketball is so competitive… what are the new areas to cheat in and give your school an advantage? There has to be that line again.

    Anyone like to comment on that?

    It’s still all about “boosters”. That’s the gray area. How you define booster in the days of NIL is baffling to me.

    Boosters still cannot recruit nor funnel money to recruits.

    But, they are setting up shell companies to do just that. How do you defend that if you’re the NCAA?

    KUAD is making a big push to RCJH, a newish c3 that exists solely for NIL. Have some spare cash laying around and want it to go to the welfare of our SA’s, it’s a great choice and the one preferred by KUAD*

    *unofficially



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in IARP update:

    @rockchalkjayhawk said in IARP update:

    @drgnslayr said in IARP update:

    I think the key moving forward is to realize there are still rules governing players and universities. The rules have changed… but we have to abide by those rules.

    Makes me wonder… since college basketball is so competitive… what are the new areas to cheat in and give your school an advantage? There has to be that line again.

    Anyone like to comment on that?

    It’s still all about “boosters”. That’s the gray area. How you define booster in the days of NIL is baffling to me.

    Boosters still cannot recruit nor funnel money to recruits.

    But, they are setting up shell companies to do just that. How do you defend that if you’re the NCAA?

    KUAD is making a big push to RCJH, a newish c3 that exists solely for NIL. Have some spare cash laying around and want it to go to the welfare of our SA’s, it’s a great choice and the one preferred by KUAD*

    *unofficially

    I understand that, but I don’t understand that.

    If I’m a guy who went to KU, donate money to KU in many ways, then give money to this RCJH fund, aren’t I a “booster”?



  • @rockchalkjayhawk said in IARP update:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in IARP update:

    @rockchalkjayhawk said in IARP update:

    @drgnslayr said in IARP update:

    I think the key moving forward is to realize there are still rules governing players and universities. The rules have changed… but we have to abide by those rules.

    Makes me wonder… since college basketball is so competitive… what are the new areas to cheat in and give your school an advantage? There has to be that line again.

    Anyone like to comment on that?

    It’s still all about “boosters”. That’s the gray area. How you define booster in the days of NIL is baffling to me.

    Boosters still cannot recruit nor funnel money to recruits.

    But, they are setting up shell companies to do just that. How do you defend that if you’re the NCAA?

    KUAD is making a big push to RCJH, a newish c3 that exists solely for NIL. Have some spare cash laying around and want it to go to the welfare of our SA’s, it’s a great choice and the one preferred by KUAD*

    *unofficially

    I understand that, but I don’t understand that.

    If I’m a guy who went to KU, donate money to KU in many ways, then give money to this RCJH fund, aren’t I a “booster”?

    Boosters can give to current players for NIL. The way they’re getting around is saying hey these are the types of opportunities we offer players like you wink wink

    Texas Tech is a good example of how this works in practice. Donors have pledged to provide all football players a $20k annual stipend. They’ll absolutely use that on the recruiting trail and say hey kid, come here and it’s $20k in your pocket as long as you’re at Tech. So they aren’t providing inducements per se, but that’s a big part of their recruiting pitch.



  • Can’t we start a “KUBuckets Player Assist Program” and essentially raise funds and dish them out to players for use of their likeness in our blog?

    Seems like we can just add a donation button to this site and start a fund. (hint)



  • @drgnslayr said in IARP update:

    Can’t we start a “KUBuckets Player Assist Program” and essentially raise funds and dish them out to players for use of their likeness in our blog?

    Seems like we can just add a donation button to this site and start a fund. (hint)

    Dang, Dragon… For a second there i thought you were going to help us poor KU buckets participants! 🙂 $$$



  • @FarmerJayhawk said in IARP update:

    @rockchalkjayhawk said in IARP update:

    @FarmerJayhawk said in IARP update:

    @rockchalkjayhawk said in IARP update:

    @drgnslayr said in IARP update:

    I think the key moving forward is to realize there are still rules governing players and universities. The rules have changed… but we have to abide by those rules.

    Makes me wonder… since college basketball is so competitive… what are the new areas to cheat in and give your school an advantage? There has to be that line again.

    Anyone like to comment on that?

    It’s still all about “boosters”. That’s the gray area. How you define booster in the days of NIL is baffling to me.

    Boosters still cannot recruit nor funnel money to recruits.

    But, they are setting up shell companies to do just that. How do you defend that if you’re the NCAA?

    KUAD is making a big push to RCJH, a newish c3 that exists solely for NIL. Have some spare cash laying around and want it to go to the welfare of our SA’s, it’s a great choice and the one preferred by KUAD*

    *unofficially

    I understand that, but I don’t understand that.

    If I’m a guy who went to KU, donate money to KU in many ways, then give money to this RCJH fund, aren’t I a “booster”?

    Boosters can give to current players for NIL. The way they’re getting around is saying hey these are the types of opportunities we offer players like you wink wink

    Texas Tech is a good example of how this works in practice. Donors have pledged to provide all football players a $20k annual stipend. They’ll absolutely use that on the recruiting trail and say hey kid, come here and it’s $20k in your pocket as long as you’re at Tech. So they aren’t providing inducements per se, but that’s a big part of their recruiting pitch.

    My brain hurts trying to figure out this NIL stuff, Farmer! But coaches and universities can’t discuss NIL stuff during recruiting, right?



  • @rockchalkjayhawk said in IARP update:

    My brain hurts trying to figure out this NIL stuff

    I have decided not to worry about it. My view of basketball is that it is a fun sport to watch, and agonizing about all the other crap going on is not worth it. (That is becoming my view of a lot of things!) 🎵 Que sera sera 🎶



  • Interesting that ESPN never covered the Self/Townsend stay at home during recruiting story. More interesting is Dick Vitale commenting that all charges should be dropped: https://247sports.com/Article/Kansas-basketball-violations-NCAA-should-drop-Jayhawks-recruiting-case-Dick-Vitale-says-190507204/.

    So, why is ESPN suddenly on our side? Two years ago, Vitale was smearing us. Hmmm…



  • @Jethro

    It’s summer and the Coach K 30 for 30 isn’t done yet. 🤮



  • @Jethro said in IARP update:

    So, why is ESPN suddenly on our side? Two years ago, Vitale was smearing us. Hmmm…

    The retirement of iconic coaches hurts their TV revenue. Suddenly… Self is needed!



  • I know this sounds soooo wrong… but…

    Can we start a “pre-fund” for Chris Johnson to help him out if he declares to KU?



  • So while awaiting the NCAA to pull their thumbs from their butts and punish us for something legal today… we hire an Adidas staffer to run our NIL program. lol

    Here is an idea we should consider for Late Night… forget bringing in rappers. Bring in Jo Koy and he will crack up everyone with his tilt on college sports!

    Best idea I’ve had in ages! lol



  • @Jethro said in IARP update:

    Interesting that ESPN never covered the Self/Townsend stay at home during recruiting story. More interesting is Dick Vitale commenting that all charges should be dropped: https://247sports.com/Article/Kansas-basketball-violations-NCAA-should-drop-Jayhawks-recruiting-case-Dick-Vitale-says-190507204/.

    So, why is ESPN suddenly on our side? Two years ago, Vitale was smearing us. Hmmm…

    It’s not necessarily ESPN being on our side. Vitale’s comments are in line with his views of wanting NCAA issues to be resolved quickly. We are now beginning year 4 since the NCAA allegations were delivered to KU so that’s what Vitale is taking issue with.

    I would also be very surprised if there’s a post season ban for KU at this point since all players involved are long gone and the NCAA is shifting towards not punishing current players with postseason bans for issues this old. I could see Self being suspended a season happening, and I’ve thought all along that Townsend wouldn’t survive this and I still believe that will end up being the case with him.



  • @BeddieKU23 said in IARP update:

    @Jethro

    It’s summer and the Coach K 30 for 30 isn’t done yet. 🤮

    SNORT…lmao…that’s a good one!



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 Vitale did a 180, so you might be on to something. It’s just surprising to get the Dook treatment from ESPN.



  • @drgnslayr said in IARP update:

    So while awaiting the NCAA to pull their thumbs from their butts and punish us for something legal today… we hire an Adidas staffer to run our NIL program. lol

    Here is an idea we should consider for Late Night… forget bringing in rappers. Bring in Jo Koy and he will crack up everyone with his tilt on college sports!

    Best idea I’ve had in ages! lol

    As long as it’s not Snoop Dog and stripper poles…



  • @Jethro said in IARP update:

    @Texas-Hawk-10 Vitale did a 180, so you might be on to something. It’s just surprising to get the Dook treatment from ESPN.

    Vitale did not do a 180 and this isn’t KU getting treated like Duke by ESPN. Vitale’s statement made zero mention about the innocence or guilt of KU in regard to the violations and didn’t come from an article on ESPN’s website, at least not an easily accessible one that I’m aware of. His statement was complaining about how long it’s taking the NCAA/IARP to rule on these cases. We’re not far away, about 2 months, from KU’s case entering into it’s 4th year without a resolution. That’s Vitale’s issue and is independent of what school is involved with a case being dragged out that long be it KU, Memphis, LSU, or NC State before they finally received their penalties.



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 I’m not going to argue about it- I know what what he said, and what I heard, and there’s nothing either of us can do to change each other’s minds about it.



  • @Jethro Prove to me how this statement goes against Vitale’s long held beliefs that current players shouldn’t be penalized by the NCAA for the crimes of previous players no longer involved in the program?



  • @Jethro said in IARP update:

    As long as it’s not Snoop Dog and stripper poles…

    Maybe we bring in Jay-Z now that his boy is running our conference!



  • Vitale’s tweet quoted in that article does not say a word specifically about KU, and is only about the “absurd” length of time the “cases” are taking. The 247 article is simply directed toward the KU audience.

    Definitely not a 360!



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 said in IARP update:

    @Jethro Prove to me how this statement goes against Vitale’s long held beliefs that current players shouldn’t be penalized by the NCAA for the crimes of previous players no longer involved in the program?

    Mayjay cleared it up. Vitale didn’t mention Kansas. I read the Vitale Wants Charges against KU dropped headline without pursing the article close enough. Vitale was talking in general about all teams, not KU. No 180. And I was informed elsewhere that ESPN didn’t run the Bill/Townsend story because in the big scope of things we’re down on the ESPN pecking order. That’s 2 losses for my theory. So, I engaged in wishful thinking about a case that has been lingering like a disease over our heads for 5 years- I wanted it to be true, even though it wasn’t…lol.


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