Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 either way we got penalized for it, they did not
I’m glad KU isn’t playing in KC. What’s KU’s record in that building? I know it’s not great and KU has rarely played well there whether in December or March.
Went back to 16-17, we’re 18-4 there. Not bad
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Kenpom wise our bracket is nuts but I have talked myself into it. The craziest part is probably the #4 and #11 KP teams being our 4 and 5 seeds. #2 team being a 2 seed when they are missing players isn’t too crazy. #8 is our 3 seed. Arkansas and WVU being in the seed range they are isn’t surprising because both of those teams had a ton of losses.
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KU’s bracket - based on Kenpom Rankings.
- 4th best #1 seed
- Best #2 Seed
- Best #3 Seed
- Best #4 Seed
- Best #5 Seed
- 3rd best #6 Seed
- 3rd best #7 Seed
- 2nd best #8 seed (one spot behind Memphis who is top)
- 4th best #9 seed
- 2nd best #10 seed
- #11 seed tbd
- 2nd best #12 Seed
- 2nd best #13 seed
- 2nd best #14 seed
- worst #15 seed
- 3rd best #16 seed
KU’s path is hard af.
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@Jethro no clue how you do that. Too much heartbreak for me.
Odds we win it every year are better than most but it’s still not going to happen.
I’d admire your confidence just not sure it is logical
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@Kcmatt7 Gonna tweet this banger. That’s nuts.
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We play Thursday at 1pm CST on TBS. This pleases me greatly. I was going to mald if we got Friday night.
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@BShark at least it’s not the 11 am game, I was hoping for a little later
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@BShark avoiding 11 am - I’ll take it
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@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
We play Thursday at 1pm CST on TBS. This pleases me greatly. I was going to mald if we got Friday night.
Already have my Out of Office scheduled. Very ready
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@kuballin10 @kjayhawks I just hate the really late tip times. Perfect world maybe a bit later, just anything before those 9pm and later starts.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
We play Thursday at 1pm CST on TBS. This pleases me greatly. I was going to mald if we got Friday night.
Already have my Out of Office scheduled. Very ready
THIS IS THE WAY
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Phew. Early Thursday games are the best. That way can enjoy the rest of the round in peace.
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We have a tough Bracket , Arkansas & Illnois both decent teams but feel like they are no beter then teams from the Big 12 Texas , Baylor K/State.- I think if we can get Kevin Back , If Juan comes out with some purpose /intensity - -our defense could be a big lift.
The Sweet Sixteen/ Great Eight would be a challenge - St Marys or U Conn I think will be a Challenge — but could be worse. We just have to come out and be aggressive from the word go.
Rotation starting 5 -then Udeh - - Joe Keep Bobby on the dam bench-- don’t think you will see much if any MJ- just still seems lost – looks lik alot of 7 man rotation
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Phew. I have work calls I can’t miss from 12-2 Eastern on Fridays so this is perfect.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
Phew. Early Thursday games are the best. That way can enjoy the rest of the round in peace.
See Farmer understands.
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@DCHawker said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 PG or not, UConn is the team I’m most worried about. They’ve only lost twice in the last 11 games - 2 pts to Marquette and 3 pts to Creighton. They’ve beaten Alabama, Marquette, Creighton, Providence, Iowa State, Okie State, Florida and Oregon.
That’s a potential Sweet 16 match up which means Self would have a minimum of 4 days to prep for a team without a PG. Not worried. UConn also has to deal with a Rick Pitino team with extended time to prep as well.
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@jayballer67 Kev is expected to practice either Mon or Tues
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I have nothing but complete respect for the UNC fanbase. They certainly deserved more than what they got on the court this year:
https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1635059498309279744/photo/1
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Off the top, the East bracket looks the toughest to emerge from.
West is second.
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First games of the weekend never worry me with this staff, it’s the second game that usually gets us. BS win percentage is great in every round but the round of 32 and the elite game is the only one sub .500
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Que sera sera…put Doris Day on, and just keep the faith!
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Now time to see if the women can survive their embarrassing loss to TCU and sneak into the women’s tournament.
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@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
@jayballer67 Kev is expected to practice either Mon or Tues
Well thats good to hear, I mean we know he won’t be 100 % - but if we can get some meaningful minutes , his defense is a must for us to advance, it’s just a must we got to get Grady going more and get something out of Juan - he has JUST GOT to be aggressive mode - pretty simple - he is aggressive scores in double figures- --we win – he comes out like he does in games like Texas we screwed
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@Kcmatt7 Glad I don’t trust Ken Pom
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@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
KU’s bracket - based on Kenpom Rankings.
- 4th best #1 seed
- Best #2 Seed
- Best #3 Seed
- Best #4 Seed
- Best #5 Seed
- 3rd best #6 Seed
- 3rd best #7 Seed
- 2nd best #8 seed (one spot behind Memphis who is top)
- 4th best #9 seed
- 2nd best #10 seed
- #11 seed tbd
- 2nd best #12 Seed
- 2nd best #13 seed
- 2nd best #14 seed
- worst #15 seed
- 3rd best #16 seed
KU’s path is hard af.
Thank you NCAA Committee for being soooo… balanced — er — consistent?
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And the KU women fail to make the NCAA Tournament this year. That TCU loss in the first round of the Big 12 Tournament knocked them out of the NCAA tournament.
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Non ideal bracket.
I’ll remain hopeful we got a run in us. Time for J Will and Juan to lead us back to the Final 4!
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From CBSSports.com…
- Reigning champion Kansas gets jobbed
After Kansas thumbed its nose at the NCAA throughout the FBI case investigating the program and corruption within college basketball, which was adjudicated before the season with mostly meaningless penalties, it doesn’t feel like too much of a stretch here to say the committee wasn’t incentivized to go out of its way to award the reigning champion Kansas Jayhawks. Maybe that’s a little too tin-foil cap theory-like of me, but consider this: Kansas had 17 Quad 1 wins – four more than No. 1 overall seed Alabama and 10 more than No. 2 overall team Houston – and landed as the No. 3 overall team.
Kansas still landed on the No. 1 seed line, but in getting passed by as the No. 1 overall seed and getting jumped by Houston, KU did not get to land in the Midwest Region. That pushes the Jayhawks to the West, which is arguably the toughest region of them all. So not only did the Jayhawks not draw a favorable geographic spot, they got a tough region to boot.
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@DCHawker the NCAA hates anyone west of the Mississippi River. You could tell they weren’t happy when we won last season. Called us the Kansas City Jayhawks.
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@BShark who else did he pick, have been on the rd.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Marquette, Texas, Bama
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Let’s hope for some upsets in this bracket.
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@kjayhawks I guess my wife hates me since she has made that mistake. And she has referred to the Kansas Chiefs, too. Man, I see her true feelings now . . . after 25 years, too.
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Well we play at 1:00 Thursday
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@mayjay haha poor guy, that was just a small part but to me and the folks I watched the game with they didn’t seem happy at all. Maybe it was just us but North Carolina amnesty association is what most call it in basketball lol
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@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
Maybe this will give us motivation, last time in KC we got super tight and failed.
At least we played. We’re not some garbage team like K-State that wasn’t even in the tournament.
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Well. Does being snubbed a lil and sent out west give this team the Chip it’s gonna take to win it all? It’s a tough bracket but they can beat anyone. Energized and intense defensive mindset. Everything else works if they start there
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Can I say something positive about our draw on this thread? Not sure if that’s allowed but here we go.
This draw could be good for this team mentally. Last years team was trying to prove everyone (bill self in particular) wrong. They’d convinced themselves that no one thought they could win and set out to do just that.
I’m seeing all kinds of stuff about how we are the 3rd or 4th most likely team in our bracket to make the final four. If that doesn’t build @drgnslayr ’s chip I don’t know what will. Everyone talking about Kansas City and how this team had that wrapped up and earned it etc., that was SOFT. You earn things by WINNING GAMES not playing a tough schedule. This team earned the big 12 championship by winning more games. This team LOST the big 12 tourney and the last game in Austin because they thought they’d earned a number 1 seed in the Midwest. It’s wake up time. No one is going to give this team the championship because they won the best league. No one is going to give this team a championship because they played the toughest schedule. Only way to win the championship is to go win. And guess what Jalen, no one thinks you can do it.
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I can imagine having Self back will be a relief. Hopefully the troops can reset and respond positively
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@BeddieKU23 definitely agree. Even though I do think Norm did a pretty good job. It’s just different. Who knows. Maybe they will have a renewed vigor just from having Self there and knowing what he went thru and etc. I just want to see them play like we all know they can. Great things will happen
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@benshawks08 most last night picked against them and went with UConn. Just like the Chiefs this year, maybe being the underdog is what they need as a little motivation or to help focus.
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I don’t get the UConn love. I assume it’s because ESPN is right down the street. They went undefeated in the non-conference, but they only beat two teams that made the NCAA tournament in non-conference and only have 6 wins over tournament teams total and were 6-6 overall against tournament teams. That’s not the hallmark of a great team. Not having a legit PG is their downfall and that’s being ignored by a lot of people. I’m not even convinced UConn makes the Sweet 16 as they have to start against Rick Pitino who is still one of two active coaches with multiple national titles and he has time to prepare a game plan against UConn. Iona is going to give UConn all kinds of problems. UConn will probably get St. Mary’s in the round of 32 and that’s a team that can beat UConn as well as Logan Johnson and Kyle Bowen will cause UConn’s backcourt issues.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
I don’t get the UConn love. I assume it’s because ESPN is right down the street. They went undefeated in the non-conference, but they only beat two teams that made the NCAA tournament in non-conference and only have 6 wins over tournament teams total and were 6-6 overall against tournament teams. That’s not the hallmark of a great team. Not having a legit PG is their downfall and that’s being ignored by a lot of people. I’m not even convinced UConn makes the Sweet 16 as they have to start against Rick Pitino who is still one of two active coaches with multiple national titles and he has time to prepare a game plan against UConn. Iona is going to give UConn all kinds of problems. UConn will probably get St. Mary’s in the round of 32 and that’s a team that can beat UConn as well as Logan Johnson and Kyle Bowen will cause UConn’s backcourt issues.
I hope you’re right.
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@cragarhawk said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
@BeddieKU23 definitely agree. Even though I do think Norm did a pretty good job. It’s just different. Who knows. Maybe they will have a renewed vigor just from having Self there and knowing what he went thru and etc. I just want to see them play like we all know they can. Great things will happen
Stents are only scary the first time. After that, it’s old hat. I haven’t had one in over 5 years!
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@DCHawker said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
From CBSSports.com…
- Reigning champion Kansas gets jobbed
After Kansas thumbed its nose at the NCAA throughout the FBI case investigating the program and corruption within college basketball, which was adjudicated before the season with mostly meaningless penalties, it doesn’t feel like too much of a stretch here to say the committee wasn’t incentivized to go out of its way to award the reigning champion Kansas Jayhawks. Maybe that’s a little too tin-foil cap theory-like of me, but consider this: Kansas had 17 Quad 1 wins – four more than No. 1 overall seed Alabama and 10 more than No. 2 overall team Houston – and landed as the No. 3 overall team.
Kansas still landed on the No. 1 seed line, but in getting passed by as the No. 1 overall seed and getting jumped by Houston, KU did not get to land in the Midwest Region. That pushes the Jayhawks to the West, which is arguably the toughest region of them all. So not only did the Jayhawks not draw a favorable geographic spot, they got a tough region to boot.
Based on Vegas odds, the West is by far the toughest region, at least at the top. 3 of the 6 top betting favorites to cut down the net are in the West (KU, UCLA and Gonzaga). The other regions have just one each. West has betting favorite 2 and 3 seeds, and second favorite 4 seed. From betting standpoint, Midwest is easily the weakest region.
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@cragarhawk said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:
@BeddieKU23 definitely agree. Even though I do think Norm did a pretty good job. It’s just different. Who knows. Maybe they will have a renewed vigor just from having Self there and knowing what he went thru and etc. I just want to see them play like we all know they can. Great things will happen
Norm did a great job and got us to the Championship game. How many assistant coaches can do that against the caliber of teams we faced? I would think the list is very short. Very happy we have such a fantastic right-hand man that’s done nothing but accept the challenges given to him and succeeded.
I had a thought that the adrenaline of playing for your coach in the circumstances they did on Thursday/Friday worked but then wore off. It was definitely a distraction for the team no matter what they said to the media.
I trust the staff to get these guys in the right mindset for Thursday. No excuses needed. They have to man up
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After a murders row (sarcasm font) of 6 opponents in the 2022 (upset induced I understand), we have little room to complain about the west. We also had 7 losses, a mindblowing number of losses for a #1 seed in my opinion. I get the quad 1 wins and all that. We still lost 7 times.
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@wissox The bracket looks hard, because of our confidence in the team. It appears to be the #4 bracket with the best 2 seed, but we don’t have to play everyone and as you said upsets happen. Hard to complain too much about being a 1 seed…yet again. Bill is amazing - how many top seeds during his tenure?
