Ok so lets see if new recruiting thread
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This class does look like it could be one of the best Self has ever had. Some of that is due to how much we are losing at season’s end but this is a class the staff did its homework early to get a leg up on some elite kids.
Dotson and Grimes- They are locks until anything is said otherwise. Both dynamic guards.
Zion & Zion- Williamson is a legitimate option for KU, Griffin will take his last visit to KU and that one seems ours to lose from his comments. I think we are good shape to land at least 1-Zion.
Big Dave McCormack. Getting him to unofficial on his own then getting him back a month later for an official is huge. Billy Preston is probably a big reason he’s looking at us having been a former teammate of his at Oak Hill.
As @RockkChalkk said we just need the first domino to come off the board.
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Not frans place to say that! Lil man, big mouth, seeks attention! I so dislike people that say things like that, “I know something, but I can’t tell you”. Bs.
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Stole De Sousa from Maryland. LOLOLOL
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Well how about that for timing, there is the first domino! Wow, that’s a big commitment that really wasn’t on the radar until Friday. Amazing.
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Got him
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@RockkChalkk Maryland got Ayton’d.
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Haha Maryland fans have got to be SO salty right now
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Nice addition and kudos to Self and the staff!
Welcome to the team, De Sousa!
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“When I was there in Kansas, I couldn’t even express myself or how I was feeling,” De Sousa told the Journal-World. “When you love something, there’s no way you will describe it."
Sounds like a great kid, lol.
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Wow, just read some quotes from SDS about his visit and why he committed and they were some awesome and powerful words. He really fell in love with KU and that makes me like him even more.
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Posted this in the other thread too:
That happened fast. Leaves me with so many questions.
What is his and Dotson’s relationship?
Can he graduate at semester and come early? I guess if he was a 4 year player than he wouldn’t be eligible that last semester. I’m sure there is a way to work around that though.
He plays AAU with Emmitt Williams, wonder if that could help us out?
Wonder what McCormack thinks? Could bill sell them on just being the biggest nastiest front court ever next season, especially if Doke comes back? Can we land all 3 and still get Doke or Preston back? (Williams,De Sousa and McCormack?
Is he actually 6’9? Draftexpress shows he was 6’7 w/o shoes in 2015 and 6’9 in shoes in 2016. 6’9 wingspan which isn’t out of the ordinary.
Is he actually 256 lbs or is he 220 lbs? Draftexpress shows he gained 30 lbs in a year. I hope he is 256. Means he has a college body already. He looks like he has a college body already in the videos. Also means he is a worker.
Overall, I’m excited by the signing. Solid player, but his additional possible connections makes him all the more exciting.
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@RockkChalkk FOE, Rock chalk
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@jayballer54 did you have a heart attack? Maybe buying some depends?
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Wow that was an unexpected thing. Great to have him aboard!
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My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he’ll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
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If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
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BeddieKU23 said:
My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he’ll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
Dedric will be here next season. Preston won’t however.
I think Dok and McCormack are tied together. If McCormack commits I’d expect Dok to be gone.
Dedric/De Sousa/McCormack + Lightfoot is a very good front court. De Sousa and McCormack should be 2-4 year guys too, with McCormack closer to 4 and De Sousa closer to 2 but possibly 3. So, how does that impact 2019 becomes a good question but you have to take talent when you can get it. It appears that JRE and Chandler are as close to locks as you can get, but kids wanna play.
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BeddieKU23 said:
If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
Their 247 board reached terminal velocity pretty fast. About 4 threads going at once, and they had to lock one, lol.
@Kcmatt7 I just don’t feel like Emmitt Williams will be allowed to choose KU. Jmo.
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@BeddieKU23 Also…same handler as Bruno Fernando, so just LOL at MD fans.
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@BShark Dammmmmmmmmmmmmm - - -we got De Sousa? - -what a get - when did this happen, I was just here lol AWSOME - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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That is a really sweet 1st commit - -didn’t see that coming AT ALL - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Sorry, Turgeon.
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@Crimsonorblue2 lmao see all It took was me asking where everyone was at and it set off fireworks – love it - I think this is the start of a very good recruiting class yet to come. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY-
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@BeddieKU23 Very in-expected - -well to me anyways, we hadn’t really heard hardly anything on him— - - - great way to start off, put him with Dotson and grimes and whoever else - -Williamson hopefully? - -huge class ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark McCormack made mention that the staff told him that more likely then not that our top 6 would be gone next year, si I think what you say is pretty dead on - -Doke will not be back, they might ALREADY know - -gonna be a big year I’ve got this JUMPIN - - GEE - -HOSSA - -FAT feeling lmao - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he’ll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
He might be 19 when he arrives, but he’ll be 20 when he plays his first game for KU. His birthday is October 7.
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Well that came outta nowhere.
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Jerry Meyer and Andrew Slater gave some input:
Meyer says: - - -He will be a terrific fit - - - does a great job controlling space down low & effective with basketball from high post.
Andrew Slater says: De Sousa is one of the premier two way rebounders in the class. - -Good rim running big and can defend both the 4 - - or 5 - - -great lateral quickness, used to be a lot more turnover/foul prone - - - but has cut down in those areas dramatically - -good weak side shot blocker - - right now his weakness is face up shooter & - TA DA - -Doke # 2 lol - -poor free throw shooter - -oh no lol - -Great pick up nice way to start our recruitment.
Wouldn’t this be sweet for a recruiting class: - - De Sousa at PF # 18 rivals, #30 overall by 247 - - - -Zion Williamson # 2 in the class - - at the SF - - – # 18 Quentin Grimes - - at the SG - - -& # 32 - Devon Dotson as the PG. - - -Ya I think I would take that - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Oh yes, on just a little more sombering note, guess I’m just behind so sorry if it’s been mentioned - - - So sorry to hear about Coach Heathcote from Michigan State, Always thought he was a pretty good Coach - -RIP jUD. - - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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It’s a great pickup. Fran thinks he’s a top 10 player in the class. I’m not as high on him, but I’m not sure he’s any lower than the 20-25 range. I do think he’s closer to 255 than 225. The guy is pretty thick and ripped. He’s big enough to play the 5 with that frame and motor. His lack of offensive skill may hold him at KU for an extra year or two as well. Doesn’t strike me as a OAD really.
As far as implications for other guys, probably means KU is out for Emmitt Williams. He and de Sousa are fairly similar, so I’m not sure where Williams fits. Zion is being recruited as more of a wing, so shouldn’t impact him. As others have said, Big Dave is a center, so there’s limited overlap. More dependent on Udoka.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he’ll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
He might be 19 when he arrives, but he’ll be 20 when he plays his first game for KU. His birthday is October 7.
This has been working out well for KU lately. Mason, Josh and Graham were all guys that took prep years. Actually Billy Preston too, but we don’t know how he will do yet.
Also time will tell on the transfers but Self tends to do well with older/experienced players.
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BeddieKU23 said:
If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
If we paid as many recruits as I State, UK, Fizzou, Md, and Mich State fans routinely say we do, we wouldn’t be able to pay Bill and his staff so much!
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@mayjay I’ve tried reading Maryland boards but they all premium I’m not paying to joining to read their meltdown, everyone talking about how they blew up, you know anywhere where their little meltdown can be read?
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@jayballer54 I wouldn’t worry about it too much. However one specific thing I will mention that I found hilarious is Maryland’s actualy 247 insider. Ie a guy paid to write articles, pretty much said that KU paid for De Sousa. LOL
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Jeff Ermann has always accused KU of being one of the dirtiest programs. I think the Jackson recruitment broke him.
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@FarmerJayhawk I would just love it if one of these coaches would sue the hell out of the guys passing on the accusations of shadiness. On the other hand, . . . . .
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Just a shout out to all you KU brethren that do the dirty work on recruiting, and keeping us informed. It really is appreciated. I don’t know how you guys do it. I just don’t have the stomach for it.
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mayjay said:
BeddieKU23 said:
If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
If we paid as many recruits as I State, UK, Fizzou, Md, and Mich State fans routinely say we do, we wouldn’t be able to pay Bill and his staff so much!
Could also be why the state of Kansas is broke, lol.
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@BShark Lol now THAT’S FUNNY. – red a little more this kid I think is really going to help, may take just a little bit but maybe not. - -Anyways De-Sousa averaged 20.5 ppg & 8.2 rebs on the Under Armour Circuit - - - -plus he averaged 17.3 - - - -& - -13.1 rebs - - in the world cup, not to shabby - -not to shabby at all.- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I watched a couple full games. The kid is a bulldozer. TRob comps aren’t the worst…
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@BShark Finally found some Maryland posts - -ya pretty much KU paid off, here were some of my better ones I seen:
Kan$a$ does it again - -nice - - -OR Poster says: I mean obviously it has to be dirty if Kansas beats us in recruiting battle (roflmfao ) ya Maryland you such a blueblood in Basketball. - -he says Hell we were told he was not the kind of kid to get swept away on a visit to a blue blood. ( well give me back my broom ) lol - - -OR this one: - -Why don’t WE pay players everyone else does- -( sweet ) - - OR how about this one: Swayed by blueblood=Paid by blueblood - -OR now this was ONE a little different twist: - - Spare me the excuses of Kansas paying him. If KANSAS NEEDS to pay players to keep their program elite - - -we should be paying double - -( nice concept )- -Then last one - - -Kansas definitely paid, but I don’t think most people are upset about that - -Were upset we didn’t - -ummm OK lol.
Turg is really taking a beating on this too, saying Turg and staff to soft not hard enough with these recruits, suppose to be a banner year for Maryland in recruiting this year. People wondering how while they were suppose to be leading on him from the beginning Why they couldn’t even get him to put a foot on Campus while at the drop of the hat He comes - -visits - -commits here - -Their not happy - -aww shucks, dag nabbit -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Checking out Florida basketball forum - they seem pretty confident about landing Devon - - -his visit is on Sept 8th - -will be interesting to see how that turns out - - -This is the only other school I feel we might have to beat, I feel good -BUT with just that pinch of ummm fingers crossed, - I think though the only way this turns out negative for us if he should be so overwhelmed by the Campus and setting of Florida Climate - -ummm scenery that he commits right after his visit, if he doesn’t I think that says pretty much got him - -I like our chances anyways. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 You know, if this guy was looking to get paid, he wouldn’t commit after his first visit and cancel other schools! Can you say, “Bidding war!”?
Those UMd people are not taking any classes in logic, are they?
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@mayjay lol - - - LOGIC? - – no they are not my friend, I think they have over dosed on their blood pressure meds - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Maybe, but possibly underdosed on the bp meds. Because their brains don’t seem to be gettin’ much blood.
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mayjay said:
@jayballer54 You know, if this guy was looking to get paid, he wouldn’t commit after his first visit and cancel other schools! Can you say, “Bidding war!”?
Those UMd people are not taking any classes in logic, are they?
Plus this kid literally has the same handler as Bruno Fernando. You know the same Bruno Fernando that is enrolled at Maryland right now.
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Good call on Williams.
The handler that is running his recruitment is the same fella that made Antonio Blakeney go from Adidas to Nike (Louisville to LSU). He’s a Nike kid. I can definitely see him going to Oregon if he’s open to leaving the state because he fits the Jordan Bell comparison to a T. If he stays closer to home look for Duke or LSU to turn up the heat. Slater has alluded too many times about the “other stuff” in Williams recruitment.
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Being a diehard fan of Florida St football I can shed some light on Florida fans. They are an absolute delusional bunch from insider to common fan. I cannot stress that enough.
Florida is a legitimate option for him, always has been. It’s also of note Florida is after other PG’s because I think they know beating KU in this one will be hard to overcome. I feel that’s a sign they know the writing is on the wall. We’ll see I highly doubt Slater would have said KU to Dotson was done weeks ago if it wasn’t true
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@mayjay LOL so very true. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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De Sousa has had an interesting trajectory so far. Was as high as the #2 recruit. Then he dipped I think to the 40s/50s and is trending back up to the top 25 after a good summer.
