Worst Regular Season Losses in the Self Era



  • Today has to be near the top, maybe number one considering its ksu.



  • Hahahahahahahaha



  • You’re all welcome.



  • Reverse seismicology?



  • @BShark I didn’t do my reverse sociology today, @Crimsonorblue22 got mad at me last time. I’m trying to get back on her good side lol.



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  • lol, I mean, this isn’t a horrible TT team.



  • Unironic bump.



  • Nothing will compare to 2013 TCU



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  • lol TCU game is still the worst by far. Shot .29% from the field against a god awful team.

    Naadir was 2-15 from the field.



  • I think the problem is David and Marcus would be good number 2’s at their position’s but as starters not good for us.



  • @hawk4life agree about Dave. Marcus was one of the reasons we stayed in the game yesterday, I thought.



  • Marcus is so poor offensively for being the main ball handler. We’ve just been conditioned to think anything above awful is Marcus playing good.

    Marcus took 8 shots at the rim yesterday but didn’t draw any contact to shoot a single free throw. He only had 6 points. Four assists for your starting PG who can’t really score is also pretty sad as well.

    There is a spot for a Marcus Garrett on a team that can score 4 on 5. This team is not capable of that.

    I would still play Harris more. He is the only guy capable of taking his man off the dribble and seeing the open man.



  • @Kcmatt7 said in Worst Regular Season Losses in the Self Era:

    Marcus is so poor offensively for being the main ball handler. We’ve just been conditioned to think anything above awful is Marcus playing good.

    Marcus took 8 shots at the rim yesterday but didn’t draw any contact to shoot a single free throw. He only had 6 points. Four assists for your starting PG who can’t really score is also pretty sad as well.

    There is a spot for a Marcus Garrett on a team that can score 4 on 5. This team is not capable of that.

    I would still play Harris more. He is the only guy capable of taking his man off the dribble and seeing the open man.

    Again your still playing 4 on 5 with Harris out there - - No Advantage at all



  • Dont get me wrong I like a lot of Marcus’s game but I’m not sure he really does anything to create for others and I think we can all agree not much of a shooter. Kind of a bad combo for a point guard



  • @hawk4life said in Worst Regular Season Losses in the Self Era:

    Dont get me wrong I like a lot of Marcus’s game but I’m not sure he really does anything to create for others and I think we can all agree not much of a shooter. Kind of a bad combo for a point guard

    before I say what I’m gonna say not bagging on anyone or being a smart so don’t take this wrong. But concerning your statement talking about not creating for others - I just have to say AGAIN - -he has a 3-1 turnover to assist ration which is leading the tam - -and as we all know an assists is a direct pass from one ot another that leads to scores. - -so I have to say with him being the leader in this - - umm yes he does do things to help/create for others.

    That’s a 3-1 ratio that he is successful on - question is how many other passes he makes to others whee they don’t convert. - -His assist ratio could/would be higher if the other players would finish.



  • @hawk4life

    Marcus isn’t the same player he was last year. The people that were concerned about him being the primary pg were right.



  • @jayballer67 Ya I see the stat and he is not all to blame, but when i watch i just don’t see it. Love his defense and he is strong with the ball. I just don’t think he is a great creator or scorer and that’s a problem for us.



  • @hawk4life said in Worst Regular Season Losses in the Self Era:

    @jayballer67 Ya I see the stat and he is not all to blame, but when i watch i just don’t see it. Love his defense and he is strong with the ball. I just don’t think he is a great creator or scorer and that’s a problem for us.

    I don’t know , all I know he can only do so much he does so much in so many ways can’t leave him off the floor. - -He can only be responsible for getting them the ball – it’s up to them to finish



  • I agree he is our best option. We’ve had some really good pg’s so maybe I’m holding him to unfair expectations, either way this loss wasn’t just on him you’re right about that. Side note how much would Jeremiah Robinson Earl help this team, that recruitment really hurt. We’ll be alright though.



  • @hawk4life JRE doesn’t change much with this team specifically. His skill set doesn’t really address the glaring weakness in the paint for KU. He’s a bad outside shooter (32%), a terrible rebounder (sub 14%), and average at best defender on his best night.

    The answer for the Marcus Garrett issue is, and I can’t believe I’m about to type this, Garrett needs to shoot more 3’s. He’s making 40% from 3 this year, but only taking 2 per game on average. That’s how Garrett gets himself easier shots is by taking more 3’s and forcing defenses to respect that shot or let him beat teams from deep and open stuff up for others.



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 Unfortunately, I don’t think he would be a 40% three point shooter if he took more 3’s. He’s taking wide open set 3’s when they give that to him. But I’d like to see. Couldn’t hurt.

    If he can hit 3’s off ball, it makes it way easier to run him with Harris. And I like that a lot.



  • Concerned that Garrett may not play tomorrow due to the elbow he took to the head…



  • @BeddieKU23 Rumblings? Edit: NVM seeing it now UGH.



  • Marcus has become EJ, version 2. It isn’t fair to either of these players to expect them to be PGs when they had never been developed as D1 PGs. It’s the most-demanding job on the team, like a quarterback. In fact, think of them in the same light. Take a wide receiver and shift to quarterback. Yes… it is that extreme.

    I never liked the idea of putting Marcus at PG and I think it hurts his chances at pro ball later… just as it did for EJ.

    I’m really not liking how some players have to “take one for the team” and potentially lower their future careers in basketball. Marcus was in a groove at the two… and provided some help at other positions. Putting him at point has been a monster burden. Every aspect of his game has diminished.

    As painful as the move may be… I would still… today… move him to the two and start Harris at point. In the brief time he has played, he has created far more offense with other players than Marcus and even Self admits the ball moves better.

    The other problem we have… is we need a leader. We need someone to step up and get the troops excited to play every game. That was apparent in our loss to Texas. And notice… when we started to really collapse, there was no one who stepped up and clapped and yelled and brought needed cheerleading energy. That was mentioned on KUSports.com, and rightly so.

    I still see very large potential with this team… but some things have to change to get there.



  • Will we even beat ISU and KSU?



  • lol



  • Idk could KU beat Hays??



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