2021-22 PER's & Stats
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Yeah that was a really solid play from him. There is tremendous upside to his offensive skill if he gets that lower body good enough to bang in the post when needed. He really is an offseason away from being a duel inside/out threat on the regular
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This is never going to be a “Self hates Zach” narrative. Bill’s pants fit weird when he thinks about Bobby and Zach anchoring this squad for the next few years.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
This is never going to be a “Self hates Zach” narrative. Bill’s pants fit weird when he thinks about Bobby and Zach anchoring this squad for the next few years.
Yeah the word has always been super positive about Zach. Practices the right way etc…
I think we might have seen this sooner if not for the toe injury.
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Updated post WVU win
Och hits 500 points and Dave 24 points from 1,000!!
Kenpom, Torvik, Massey, Sagarin all liked the win.
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WVU offense that game would make any defense look good!
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@benshawks08 said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
WVU offense that game would make any defense look good!
Offensive offense
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47th to 28th . I’ll take it…
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@Jethro said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
47th to 28th . I’ll take it…
Trending decently in February so far. Only giving up 64 ppg this month with 2 more to go.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
Trending decently in February so far. Only giving up 64 ppg this month with 2 more to go.
KSU won’t crack 60 tomorrow. Book it.
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@tis4tim said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
Trending decently in February so far. Only giving up 64 ppg this month with 2 more to go.
KSU won’t crack 60 tomorrow. Book it.
As long as Pack doesn’t have 35 again I’d agree
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
As long as Pack doesn’t have 35 again I’d agree
I’d wager Bill is challenging Harris’ manhood even now in regards to guarding Pack. He’ll be lucky to score half that tomorrow.
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Thanking you again.
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Last year he scored 10 pts on 4-10 shooting & 2-5 from 3 in Allen.
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Pack season avg 17.1 I’ll take that though 42% on threes is a bit scary.
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He’s a very good shooter. He can get his as long as nobody else does
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KU #5 in the AP Poll. Baylor #10. It’s on this weekend.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
@Jethro said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
47th to 28th . I’ll take it…
Trending decently in February so far. Only giving up 64 ppg this month with 2 more to go.
Our rating hasn’t improved much though right? Our ranking has, but the rating has pretty much held at 94? Meaning teams in front of us are sucking and we are holding serve.
94.2 d rating is 28th this year, but would have been tied for 44th a year ago. Just something to chew on
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I haven’t tracked it on an individual game to game basis but believe its trending slightly better in February from what I recall when I update it after every game. I could be wrong there though. I’ll start tracking our actual ratings starting now to see if we see any meaningful trend there. They are giving up 4 less ppg then the previous 3 months so even if the metrics don’t say it this defense has given up less points so far in February. Obviously we need to finish this week out to have all data there
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Some metric tourney breakdown stuff in the video. Apparently we don’t have a shot at the title…
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@benshawks08 said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
Some metric tourney breakdown stuff in the video. Apparently we don’t have a shot at the title…
As long as we’re in the tourney, we have a shot. That’s good enough for me.
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@tis4tim Same! First time for everything! And I just refuse to believe Texas has a better shot than we do.
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@Kcmatt7 Just a thought- maybe our great offense leads to worse defense. If you go back and look at our worst defense, it was Doke, Devonte, Malik, … that crew. They were also top 5 offensively. And they went to the Final Four. I don’t think we have to be Top 5 in defense to make a run. I know everyone is worried that our defense will let us down, but the other side of the coin is we’ve learned how to score against the number 1 ranked defensive schedule in America. And we’re 22-4, leading the best conference in the nation by 2 games. That’s strong as horseradish.
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@Jethro I’m just really pointing out that while it looks like the defense has improved by rankings, might not actually be the case.
I think this team is capable of a FF run for sure
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Ochai passed Wilt Chamberlain last night for 26th place all-time on the scoring list.
With 4 games left in the regular season Ochai is on pace to be in #21st place all-time passing Drew Gooden.
From there it’s realistic that he could pass Calvin Thompson, Kenny Gregory, Jeff Boschee & Tyshawn Taylor at his current scoring average in the Big-12 tournament putting him #17 place heading into the NCAA Tourney.
PER’s. Yesufu & Wilson saw decent sized bumps for this late in the season.
Analytics liked this win. Now 3rd overall in Bracket Matrix. Offense went up on both Kenpom/Torvik while D slightly down. Kenpom overall rating slightly up and trending towards the 2011-12 squad that made the finals.
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Updated post Baylor letdown.
Och needs 7 pts to pass Brandon Rush for #25th place. Dave is 9 points from 1,000 in his career. CB within reach of 1,000 depending on how post season tournaments go.
PER’s
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If KU plays 8 more games (3 regular season, 2 in Big XII tourney, 3 in NCAA) CB should get to 1000 this year. He needs just 118 points, so if he gets 15 ppg, that gets him there.
For Agbaji, if he gets 8 more games, he probably lands somewhere between Wayne Simien (1593 points) and Mark Randall (1627 points). A long postseason could maybe get Agbaji within striking distance of Kevin Pritchard (1692 points), but that would almost certainly require a trip to the Big 12 title game and a trip to the Final Four to give him extra games.
No matter what, it’s unlikely Agbaji catches Devonte Graham (1750 points), but he should settle nicely into the top 20 all time. That’s a pretty great career by any measure.
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A bit unlucky too since he redshirted half a year and missed the 2020 post season. There’s no telling how many points he’d have under slightly different outcomes
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
A bit unlucky too since he redshirted half a year and missed the 2020 post season. There’s no telling how many points he’d have under slightly different outcomes
Ochai missed 14 games due to redshirting and averaged 8.5 ppg that year so probably somewhere around 120 points from his freshman year and he missed up to 9 games 2 years ago averaging 10 ppg. So ballpark would probably be around 200 more points if Ochai played a full slate each of his first 2 seasons.
Those extra games could’ve had Ochai challenging Frank Mason and Sherron Collins to be in the top 5 all time scorers at KU.
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Updated for end of regular season
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Updated after West Virginia blowout
Ochai is 16 points away from the Top 20 all-time scoring list. He sits in #21st place with 1,532 points and passed 600 points for the season yesterday. He needs 4 3’s to pass Svi for 4th all-time in made 3 pointers.
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Thank you your royal nerdness! Looks like we have a bit of work left to complete.
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Yesterday’s game was helpful on the numbers
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It’s probably harder to move the ratings this late i’m guessing.
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Where does this current team fall in the Self era on Kenpom? The two teams (one above, one below) with similar Kenpom ratings lost in 2nd round & Sweet 16.
Now if we compare which teams compare similar to this years squad via Offense & Defensive rank
Those 3 teams lost in the 2nd round, Elite 8 & Final 4. Interesting stuff. Let’s hope they got a 2017-18 run and further in them
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I would imagine so, yesterday’s game was almost 3/4 of a pt improvement in overall rating so interesting at the least.
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A good update, updating for after the Big-12 Tournament win and earning another #1 seed!!!
Some significant milestones on the horizon for KU players the more games we play. Ochai is about 100 points off Frank Mason’s single season record for points under Self. He sits in #18th place all time on the scoring list, will very likely pass Tyshawn Taylor for #17th on Thursday & needs 24 to pass Wayne Simien in 16th. 14th place is attainable and hopefully he gets there.
Christian Braun is only 49 points away from 1,000 points in his Jr year. He’s already ahead of Ochai’s pace (Och had 920 coming into this year) so he’s set up extremely well if he comes back for his Sr year to have one of those seasons that get’s him into the Top 20 all-time as well.
Remy Martin is 71 pts away from 2,000 for his career. The way he scored in KC makes this feat attainable for him. Remy is starting to play like the preseason Big-12 POY he was tabbed to be.
Positive movement on the Analytics
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The past KU teams that this squad compares the best too. Same as last update. We’ll see what happens
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A little surprised our d numbers didn’t move a little more than that. Eye test definitely felt like the defense was significantly better in the big 12 tournament than we’ve seen all year (minus the Baylor game at Allen).
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Mitch has been very good for us the last part of the season. His injury sucks in a big way and im worried he wont be able to contribute 100% i would be ok with resting him as much as possible early in the tourney if we are afforded that luxury. Of course, same concerns for Dave.
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I’d like to see Mitch at least test out the knee Thursday and see what level of comfort he’s got. Should be able to coast by in Game 1 without him but the 2nd round game no doubt we’ll need his experience
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KU ends the regular season #3 in the AP Poll. Let’s finish #1
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Updated for the Texas Southern blowout!!!
Och needs 13 points to pass Wayne Simien for #16th. After that he needs 48 points to get to #15.
Kenpom rating is rising with every game. Getting towards a slew of teams that made the Elite 8 or finals. This team is playing its best basketball in March!!
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Och sits in #16th place all-time after passing Wayne Simien. He is now 34 points away from #15 place. Come on Och have some big games!
Christian Braun needs 22 points for 1000. As I stated already if Braun returns for his senior year he’s setup to finish in the Top 20. Already ahead of Och at the same point of their Jr years.
Big Dave is now tied for #47th all-time on the scoring list. He’s got a chance to move up a few more spots before the end of this season.
Remy reaching 2000 points is now within real reach. Just 36 points away from reaching that incredible scoring feat.
Kenpom rating has been rising. Now the #9th best rating in the Self era. Torvik seems to like us a little more right now.
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Just looking at KU’s road to the FF via Kenpom
They get to play the 4th worst team remaining in the field. And then they get to play one to the winners of the two teams who are 2nd and 3rd to last remaining in the field.
Nobody has an easier road to the FF than KU. Almost as if the basketball Gods are making this up to us for 2020. Really, really hope this team takes advantage of this. What a gift.
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It’s hard to not look ahead with how our bracket has shaped up. Very excited and confident we can get there
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Imagine how much KP/Torvik would like us if we had March Remy all year. Lol.
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If things play out the way we want them to its probably a good thing everything that’s happened, happened. It’s clear Remy is out to prove something, he’s got a big chip on his shoulder right now. We may not have had that going for us with different circumstances.
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Fair point. He has been balling out hard.
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@BShark Harris is good at getting the offense going, while Remy is good at jump-starting it if we sputter. Cannot afford any more Och no-shows in the first few mins.
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@mayjay said in 2021-22 PER's & Stats:
@BShark Harris is good at getting the offense going, while Remy is good at jump-starting it if we sputter. Cannot afford any more Och no-shows in the first few mins.
Och did this at times last year to - you wouldn’t even know he was on the floor - -him and Christan both. If we ar going to moe forward like you said we need all hands on deck
