KU Roster for 25-26
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@FarmerJayhawk said in KU Roster for 25-26:
It’s getting torn down to the studs (plus Jamari)
Wasn’t Jamari supposed to be a great shooter? We gonna see that next year?
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@FarmerJayhawk flory, and ?
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@FarmerJayhawk Hopefully this applies to a majority of the staff and Bill revamping his philosophy as well……
Hard look in the mirror is required
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Shot 28% as a freshman. Hope he’s improved there
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Roster for 25-26:
@FarmerJayhawk said in KU Roster for 25-26:
It’s getting torn down to the studs (plus Jamari)
Wasn’t Jamari supposed to be a great shooter? We gonna see that next year?
He’s got some potential there. But right now he’s a poor mans Travis Releford
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@Crimsonorblue22 Flory, Elmarko, Darryn, Kease
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@FarmerJayhawk thx, the only ones staying?
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@Crimsonorblue22 I think so, yeah
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@FarmerJayhawk counting tiller? Their choice or coaches?
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@FarmerJayhawk WOW , if that’s the case you wasn’t kidding when you said bare huh --Mercy , I would of though with Jamari red shirting he would of stuck for another year. - -Lot’s of work to do for sure if that’s the case TOTALLY new roster
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@SlimShaddy54 i think he said in addition to Jamari
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I’ll gain even more respect for Elmarko/Jamari if they stick around another year which seems likely at this stage. I hope to be pleasantly surprised at their developments. Elmarko came in with high hopes/former burger boy. Jamari was a Top 100 kid as well in what was a weak class overall. Big offseasons for this duo
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Player/Coach meetings ongoing. We’ll likely see movement starting this week I’m guessing.
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I wondered if players weren’t asked back or if they left by choice.
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@approxinfinity Oh , you mean these guys in addition to Jamari staying.
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Good Q, not sure how that convo is going with this new era. I’m sure guys like Storr/Griffen have been back channeling about their options before the meeting even occurs so it’s likely players have decisions made going in (I’m sure the coaches know as well). In both players cases, it’s been heavily rumored both have been shopping for a while. Tampering and shopping behind the scenes is the new way.
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I’m sure if Storr and Rylan were wanted back it would be w/a lot less $! I can’t imagine them getting much any where else.
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There’s some stuff out there that the price of P4 starters will be going up with the revenue sharing.
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@BeddieKU23 be crazy to pay them much!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU Roster for 25-26:
@BeddieKU23 be crazy to pay them much!
I would agree on both. Storr was the bigger miss due to his price tag but really both were just not effective here.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see both get paid well (but agree they probably won’t make what they did this year) at new schools if both move on as is expected.
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Griffin seemed like he could be a KU guy. Never seemed confident or comfortable though. Storr…smh
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Anybody know if KJ will be around the program next season while he’s rehabbing? Seems like he’d make a great GA for a year while he’s rehabbing and getting back into basketball shape.
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I’ve seen articles that quote Bill Self as saying they’ll find a place for him during during his rehabilitation year.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 @ImmunoHawk love this. Another guy who gives everything around the program seems like a big win for us in addition to a win for KJ.
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The roster is shrinking pretty quickly here.
More news coming soon I assume.
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We’re gonna have posters on here trying out pretty soon.
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No Diggy no doubt
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Good opportunity for the staff to find some hidden gems and not just big names.
Bill replaced all 5 starters 2 or 3 times and won the league the next season… Just throwing that out there.
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@Kcmatt7 love the optimism. This could be Bill Selfs greatest coaching year, it he is up for it.
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Well with all these departures we have only ONE left to go --AJ Storr cause we know he is gone-- that leaves us with McDowell , Jackson & Peterson unless Petersons flips- - What a costly Season
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Something I want to say for next season while deep diving the issues this season on the court woth the offense.
Talent evaluation absolutely killed KU this season. Zeke and Coit were good fits on offense, but their ceilings were low enough to keep them from being true star players. Missing on the scouting of AJ and Rylan absolutely killed KU because they were supposed to be the NBA level talent to lift Dejuan and KJ up because those two were always supposed to be the role/support starters. Below is my breakdown of the offense and the fits of everyone in the offense.
AJ was known to be a terrible fit from day 1, Rylan was a bit more surprising, but less so after a deep dive on his skills and background. We all know Self’s offense is based off a motion offense. There’s rules to a motion offense to make it successful with the most important one being players that know how/when to cut and move without the ball, and a post player that is good passer.
I’ll probably get some disagreements here, but Hunter Dickinson was an ideal 5 for Self’s system. He was a top level passer amd could stretch the floor. When he got the ball at the top of the key, teams had to respect that Hunter could and would take that shot.
I’ll also probably get even more disagreements here by say that Dejuan Harris was a good fit for Self’s offense. He was good at probing defenses and forcing them to react and was generally pretty good at kicking out to the perimeter.
KJ was an okay fit for the offense. He was a good cutter which led to a lot of easy baskets and a solid ball handler, but his lack of outside shooting is what limited him and hurt the offense because teams didn’t have to respect that because he never shot 3’s.
Zeke was a very good fit on offense because he was great a moving without the ball and getting himself open for catch and shoot 3’s, or if he had the ball in his possession, his step back 3 was also a very strong weapon. Diggy Coit was the same boat as Zeke on offense as their games are very similar to each other.
The reason AJ Storr was a terrible fit on offense was because he is an iso player. There’s a reason I comped him to James Harden so frequently and that’s because Storr needed the ball in his hands and everyone else to clear out so he could take his man one on one. That’s not Self’s offense and why AJ struggled so much here. I assume Storr is still planning on leaving, but if he stays for whatever reason, he’s just not a good fit for Self’s offense unless he works to reinvent his game this offseason.
Now to Rylan Griffen and why he didn’t work out despite seemingly being an ideal fit on paper. Nate Oats doesn’t run much real offense. It’s very free flowing and simplistic which has it’s pros and cons, but it’s something that doesn’t require a lot of knowledge on cutting and reading defenses. This is why Griffen struggled so much this year. He wasn’t good at reading defenses or his teammates and would frequently either not move and camp in the corner (I tell my players all the time a statue is the easiest thing to guard), or he’s would make the wrong read and make a bad cut and end up out of position. Griffen didn’t have a high enough basketball IQ to pick up Self’s system which is why he frequently looked lost on the floor.
For next season, we have Darryn Peterson and possibly Elmarko Jackson as starters and that’s it. Peterson is a star and could thrive in any system, but what should make him lethal under Self is his ability woth or without the ball. He understands how to make cuts and create his own shots without the ball in his hands. He’s a perfect fit for a motion offense.
As for everyone else, we saw Elmarko struggle playing off the ball because he wasn’t great at making the right reads and cuts, but as a lead guard, he is a playmaker.
But it sounds like Self is looking to add another starting caliber point guard, but as of now, there’s not much out there. A lead guard who run a motion offense and understands passing angles is a must. This was something Dejuan thrived at so we’ll see if Self ends up running Elmarko out there or finding someone else.
As for the 3 and 4 spots, Josh Dix a as good a fit for a Self offense as there is. Fran McCaffery didn’t run a motion offense, but ran a zone offense that utilized a lot of cutting to get players to their spots so there might be a small learning curve with Dix, but noting he shouldn’t be able to pick up quickly. Players that know how to cut and move without the ball are vital to Self’s offense and we saw what happens to it this season when there’s a wing that doesn’t understand those concepts.
As for a 5, Malik Reneau would be a pretty good fit for Self and KU as he can play in the high or low post and is an above average passer. His lack of 3 point shooting shouldn’t be an issue unless there’s other players out there that can’t shoot 3’s either.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 were you going to say something about Hall? I thought you did, and maybe removed it re: the 4 spot?
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@approxinfinity said in KU Roster for 25-26:
@Texas-Hawk-10 were you going to say something about Hall? I thought you did, and maybe removed it re: the 4 spot?
I forgot about him. After watching some film on him, I think he’d be a solid fit for KU. I do have some concerns about his ability to move without ball, but most scouting reports list that as a positive about him. Based on the tape and scouting reports on him, I get a stronger Perry Ellis vibe from his game. Similar strengths and weaknesses which is concerning as far as his defense because he’s prone to mental lapses on that end. Also sounds like he’s not athletic enough to defend smaller players so it could be something similar to Hunter to where opponents pick on him with screens and picks to force him to rotate.
He’s a proven scorer in the Big 12 so I’d take him if he chose to come here, but he wouldn’t be my top choice of players pending whoever else enters the portal.
Also, KU didn’t make Reneau’s final list, so that scouting report on him doesn’t matter amd I don’t know where Self and KU are looking at this time to replace Flory.
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Theres this kid with a moustache named Blory Fidunga…
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Do we think Self knows flory’s decision by who he’s recruiting?
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Does anyone know what the actual expectations are for Jaden Nickens next season? Is he still going to be allowed to play with new scholarship rules and if so, would he actually be good enough to contribute, or would this be more of a Noah Shelby situation he’s more of a practice body than anything else?
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It is a 15 player roster limit so I believe he would have to take one of those spots if he wants to play. Had forgotten about him though and that is a good question on what their plan is.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Roster for 25-26:
Does anyone know what the actual expectations are for Jaden Nickens next season? Is he still going to be allowed to play with new scholarship rules and if so, would he actually be good enough to contribute, or would this be more of a Noah Shelby situation he’s more of a practice body than anything else?
I don’t think he’ll be part of the program since he has to take a scholarship.
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@MR11 said in KU Roster for 25-26:
It is a 15 player roster limit so I believe he would have to take one of those spots if he wants to play. Had forgotten about him though and that is a good question on what their plan is.
14 this season with NCAA or self-imposed loss of scholarship.
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Is that Rylan shooting around? On the perimeter?
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@Crimsonorblue22 looks like it
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It’s an old video. You can see ushers in the background
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@FarmerJayhawk he does look better than I thought though. I knew he couldn’t move like that w/a cast on.
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@FarmerJayhawk gave me a lil bit of hope
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So who are the starters?
Peterson and Flory.
White?
And? The roster looks pretty incomplete at this point. Need another impactful player. Maybe that other transfer will be the 2?
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@dylans said in KU Roster for 25-26:
So who are the starters?
Peterson and Flory.
White?
And? The roster looks pretty incomplete at this point. Need another impactful player. Maybe that other transfer will be the 2?
Long way to go.
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Not sure how many here saw this.
https://x.com/derrick__shelby/status/1910146609322610697?s=46
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@BigBad said in KU Roster for 25-26:
Not sure how many here saw this.
https://x.com/derrick__shelby/status/1910146609322610697?s=46
Nice. hope he’s a contributor! From the way back when HS scouting report:
Shelby is one of the better long distance shooters in his class. He makes any man to man defense stretch out against any zone. coaches mainly see his ability to stretch the floor as a key translatable asset.
His career stats from 3pt: 31 and 33 percent in his two years playing college ball.
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He won’t contribute
