Next Year's Team Thread
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk I’ve got good news about Mosley. Wonder if we have room for Mosley and McCullar or we are dead set on a small guard? Think we whiff on Hunter to the Ville.
As of now we only have one spot, so might just be Mosley. But still over a month to sort out.
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Did any of our guys transfer out before the deadline? Wasn’t it last night?
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk I’ve got good news about Mosley. Wonder if we have room for Mosley and McCullar or we are dead set on a small guard? Think we whiff on Hunter to the Ville.
As of now we only have one spot, so might just be Mosley. But still over a month to sort out.
Yeah I feel like if we need the spot, maybe Cam just quietly retires or something.
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https://twitter.com/globalkidmedia/status/1513267856296796167
When everything you’ve heard about a player vibes with what happens here…
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Still pretty stacked if we only get Mosley. Just a little inexperienced. Will definitely need Wilson to take a big leap…
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@BShark not very polite, asking the guy questions about India like he knows everything about India. Ignorance, innocence, bias, curiosity, whats the difference?
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@approxinfinity I still think Cuffe is a candidate to leave if we need room.
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@approxinfinity he doesn’t seem to care and maybe it’s cause they are just young and very inexperienced. Wish we could’ve heard a lil more of the set up. Seemed kinda weird.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@approxinfinity he doesn’t seem to care and maybe as young and innocent as they are. Wish we could’ve heard a lil more of the set up. Seemed kinda weird.
Won’t post details publicly but there are a lot of reasons why everyone thought Cuffe would leave.
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Been watching a lot of Ernest Udeh and if this kid gets the system down he should get real minutes. Getting the system down is no small task but his body is P5 ready. Again not any real skill to speak of but like Udoka you surround him with 4 guards/wings and let him rebound/dunk/block. Seals/screens very well, and has really good/strong hands.
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Really good rebounder as well. I love what he could be here in a few years.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Really good rebounder as well. I love what he could be here in a few years.
Zuby is an insane rebounder. Zach showed great promise there as well. The glass will certainly be secured.
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Agree Zach showed some grit and nasty down low that I loved to see.
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@BShark hunter to the ville that sucks. He’s the guy I want most.
Harris Transfer/mj/Bobby??? Mosley (sounds like) or Dick Wilson Zach/Udeh/transfer
Hunter in the 2 spot playing 2 small guards would he filthy. He can fill it up in our offense. Not sure Bobby can and MJ is an unknown. Maybe some guy in the draft spring Bill gets late like Remy.
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Okay, Jeff. Sure. I find this line-up projection very hard to believe.
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@BShark it’s essentially what Baylor does with their bigs but Bill adds the wrinkle of teaching them how to post for easy buckets
Even on Landon’s podcast he was the 4-5th option yet Bill said when they need a bucket they throw it down low. Was really hoping there would be follow up on why? Why use your worst offensive player on the floor just because of proximity to the hoop?
I get someone will say closer obviously higher percentage but I’d rather Frank, josh anyone drive over a Landon jump hook
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@BShark Well, the phrase “way too early” is kind of a warning…
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I’m curious as to what Remy’s plans are now. Is he entering the NBA draft? Overseas?
TIA.
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If I were to guess he’ll go through the draft process and play summer league. Good chance he won’t make a roster. I think he really fits the euroball style of play, so I imagine that’s where he ends up.
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People are really sleeping on Zach lol
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
People are really sleeping on Zach lol
Yes they are , I think Zach has a really good chance to be a very good player - - energy player he has shown some ability to hit the outside shot occasionally ya somebody forgot to jump on the Zach Boat
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Read off CBS Sports and I know doesn’t really mean much at this point , but this is one of quite a few doing now and it was CBS way to Early rankings for the upcoming year. - It had us at # 8 , but also said the complexion of KU would totally change if EITHER Jalen or Christan returned , so I guess meaning we would go up with them returning - also said the look of Ku was goling to be toatlly different this coming year but that KU would still have the Talent that is totally off the charts - I’m ready - -throw it up boys lol
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So if I understand this right , it’s to late now isn’t it from anymore kids to enter the portal now cause the deadline has passed and the 48 hours has also passed. Meaning that Joe - - -Sam And Cam would all have to sit out a year if they were to transfer now -right ? - If that’s the case I wouldn’t look for them to transfer with the NIL deals -kinda a screwy mess
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@jayballer67 Yeah. I honestly think these kids are smart for staying. It’s been made very clear self values experience. Any experience is good but experience in his system is extra valuable. And a lot of these fringe starters/likely bench players don’t have to be the next ochai to get minutes. They need to be the next Mitch. The next Harris. Self doesn’t decide who plays based on talent. It drives many fans crazy and drove some folks off the message board for good but he values hard work, defense, and reliability. He plays the guys he trusts. They all just watched Dejuan Harris not even really be challenged for his starting spot by the best transfer in the portal. Pre season player of the year sat the bench behind a dude with a mediocre jumper and a can do attitude. So who is self going to feel he can rely on more next year? Isiah Mosley or joe yesefu? A bunch of freshmen or the guys who pushed a team all the way to the championship? We can (and will) predict lineups all summer long but when late night hits, self will be looking for one thing as the season gets started. Who can he TRUST? Who knows the plays, schemes, etc. Who can execute? Who will give that extra effort? Who will rise to the occasion and take a big shot? And yeah, any of these guys could see there way into a role as the next Mitch light foot, landen Lucas, Brady Morningstar, jamari traylor, Christian moody, etc.
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@benshawks08 or they enjoyed the ride?
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@benshawks08 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@jayballer67 Yeah. I honestly think these kids are smart for staying. It’s been made very clear self values experience. Any experience is good but experience in his system is extra valuable. And a lot of these fringe starters/likely bench players don’t have to be the next ochai to get minutes. They need to be the next Mitch. The next Harris. Self doesn’t decide who plays based on talent. It drives many fans crazy and drove some folks off the message board for good but he values hard work, defense, and reliability. He plays the guys he trusts. They all just watched Dejuan Harris not even really be challenged for his starting spot by the best transfer in the portal. Pre season player of the year sat the bench behind a dude with a mediocre jumper and a can do attitude. So who is self going to feel he can rely on more next year? Isiah Mosley or joe yesefu? A bunch of freshmen or the guys who pushed a team all the way to the championship? We can (and will) predict lineups all summer long but when late night hits, self will be looking for one thing as the season gets started. Who can he TRUST? Who knows the plays, schemes, etc. Who can execute? Who will give that extra effort? Who will rise to the occasion and take a big shot? And yeah, any of these guys could see there way into a role as the next Mitch light foot, landen Lucas, Brady Morningstar, jamari traylor, Christian moody, etc.
Exactly. like you say Coach looks for that effort - -someone willing to play BOTH ends of the floor, someone maybe not quite as talented but a guy who isn’t afraid to dive on the floor, for loose balls a guy that isn’t a black hole , a guy who is wiling to step in and take a charge , a guy who is willing to give his body up to possible injury to dive out of bounds to save that loose ball from going out of bounds . The thing is we all know or have known for a long time if you can’t do these things but most of all if you can’t play defense or just so so then your gonna have a really nice seat to watch the action right next to Coach
Most of all like Coach has said - really doesn’t matter who starts the game - - it’s who is on the floor at the end of the game, it shows who he trusts and if these guys can realize that and just play their role - - were fine
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As we talk about lineups and bringing on other players it is a good idea to look back on our championship team from a stats perspective. Realize who is (or might) be leaving, and consider what we lose on the stat sheet.
https://kuathletics.com/sports/mbball/cumestats/season/2021-22/
Gosh… looking at that stat sheet makes me wonder just how valuable those stats are and also how misleading they can be. For example, I don’t think anyone in here will discount the value of Jalen Wilson… but he shot only 26% from trey. But he was our top rebounder.
That’s why I probably look at these prospects differently than most of you. Sure, I look at their current stats. But I also give an eye test. I try not to be too judgmental on a player without knowing the environment he comes from. The factors around him will be his biggest influence on his stat sheet.
Chemistry has to be imagined, too. What do we have and what would help us most?
Right now, I don’t see a team next year that will play anymore physical than our current team. I think we were fortunate we avoided playing physical/athletic teams (like Kentucky and Duke) in this years’ March Madness. This is why I want us to secure McCullar. He gives us some muscular testosterone.
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@jayballer67 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Most of all like Coach has said - really doesn’t matter who starts the game - - it’s who is on the floor at the end of the game
I’ve never really understood this. It is who starts because the hope is that you have all your walk-ons in at the end of the game thanks to a blowout victory.
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@tis4tim said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Most of all like Coach has said - really doesn’t matter who starts the game - - it’s who is on the floor at the end of the game
I’ve never really understood this. It is who starts because the hope is that you have all your walk-ons in at the end of the game thanks to a blowout victory.
hear hear! We want the walkons closing the game…that’s a PHOF response…
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@tis4tim said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Most of all like Coach has said - really doesn’t matter who starts the game - - it’s who is on the floor at the end of the game
I’ve never really understood this. It is who starts because the hope is that you have all your walk-ons in at the end of the game thanks to a blowout victory.
And yet at the end of the Championship game who was on the floor with 4.3 seconds to go in the game and KU up by 3 and North Carol had the ball with a chance to tie the game ? - -A freshman who had hardly played a whiff and there he is true maybe not guarding the main targeted guy for NC - -BUT a guy who Coach Self trusted more defensively -K J Adams - - Thats where Coach says it doesn’t matter who starts
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So, what does anyone know or believe will happen with Jalen Wilson? He wasn’t invited to the NBA Combine, apparently. G League camp? Or is he working on his perimeter shooting and just doing the right thing and coming back to KU.
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Jalen doesn’t seem to be highly ranked on draft boards. I saw one consensus board that had him #93. So, seems like if he wants to make more than NIL money, he’d have to go overseas. If he can gain consistency on his jump shot, and control his handle a bit more, maybe the NBA will come calling next year. I’d love to see him come back and be Mr. Everything at KU.
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BTW, same consensus board has Och at #14 and CB at #33.
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Jalen has been just staying in Lawrence, practicing with the guys. Contrast to David and Och who are doing NBA draft prep elsewhere. Tifwiw.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Jalen has been just staying in Lawrence, practicing with the guys. Contrast to David and Och who are doing NBA draft prep elsewhere. Tifwiw.
I wonder what will become of Big Dave…
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Thanks to everyone for the updates. JWill back to KU then? Fingers crossed. I love his nose for the rebounds.
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@stoptheflop said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Thanks to everyone for the updates. JWill back to KU then? Fingers crossed. I love his nose for the rebounds.
Not done until it’s done, but highly, highly likely.
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I vote Jalen to return. Much better advancement environment for him over G-league. He has a considerable improvement window available right here… especially on that trey shot.
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1523650903076712449
$trong a$$ programs at the top of this list.
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https://twitter.com/draftexpress/status/1523733390780149761?s=21&t=uQq0PHuEO6CCJ2yhT9HC2w
J will and big Dave on the list going to g league camp.
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Jalen Wilson will be a 3 at the next level and if he can show progress in that area in his game, specifically being able to take players 1 on 1 and shooting the 3 better, he’ll end up playing his way into being a draft pick.
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@BigBad said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I noticed that some time back and mentioned - -Love CB’S Edge/Chip - -kind of Cocky but can back it up. The one thing I have to agree with to at least some point is he does shot low and takes awhile to get it out of his hand , might be an issue but I think that can be an easy fix - - love CB
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@BigBad said in Next Year's Team Thread:
How bad are the rest of this draft class at defense that CB is considered one of the top defenders in this class?
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When I say there’s a lot to play out, there’s A LOT to play out. https://theathletic.com/3304957/2022/05/11/ncaa-transformation-committee-rule-changes/
Relevant for this thread is that the D1 Council is considering blowing up the hard cap for scholarships by sport. If you want to put 25 on scholarship for hoops, go for it (Title IX applies). 150 football? Knock yourself out. Just have a women’s rowing squad of 300.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
When I say there’s a lot to play out, there’s A LOT to play out. https://theathletic.com/3304957/2022/05/11/ncaa-transformation-committee-rule-changes/
Relevant for this thread is that the D1 Council is considering blowing up the hard cap for scholarships by sport. If you want to put 25 on scholarship for hoops, go for it (Title IX applies). 150 football? Knock yourself out. Just have a women’s rowing squad of 300.
jesus. when the rich get richer…this is out of control. maybe in a year or two there will be only ONE team playing itself over and over.
College sports is a shit show now.
