Not paying for ESPN this year
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@Texas-Hawk-10 @MR11 but y’all weren’t mad when similar happened to espn employees. There are zero right wing people on any major networks at this time because they all been removed and it didn’t bother a soul on left when it happened. Reminds me of the speaker of the house getting kicked out of a restaurant in trumps first term and the left had their fist in the air rejoicing the right to refuse services to anyone. But yet just a year or two earlier threw a complete shit fit over someone not baking a cake. My point is it is simply dangerous to continue to have onesided media, people are literally dying. The left has been censoring the right for the last decade. It’s all hypocritical crap.
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What irks me about this is the double-standard being set by Disney. Sure, it is irresponsible of Kimmel to use his platform to lie about the political views of the suspect. However, if Disney really cared that much about people with public followings being truthful and responsible, they would have fired all the FOX News anchors who lied about the 2020 election being stolen as well.
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@Jhawk69 I think about 90% of the mainstream media needs fired at this point. All they do is push their own agenda mostly with lies.
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I think the best thing about this has been the hypocritical nature it has brought out in everyone.
The party of free speech and legalizing comedy is suddenly for state-forced censorship.
The party for cancel culture and has been spouting the line “freedom of speech does not meean freedom of consequences” is now mad that phrase is proving to be true.
FCC shouldn’t be censoring this. People celebrating an assasination shouldn’t be surprised to get fired from their jobs. Two things can be true. Jmo
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@kjayhawks No I didn’t care about random people being fired for spreading hate online and getting fired. I’m also not upset if that happens to people promoting violence today lose their job. Seems pretty consistent to me, why do you think I am being hypocritical? Do you have any examples where Biden’s administration was directly threatening a company to fire someone over something they said? I sincerely would like to know if you have this as I would also be against that.
In your own postings, you lament the right wing getting censored and are OK with the left media getting censored. How is that not the exact hypocrisy you claim to hate?
@Kcmatt7 Agreed, but it is important to highlight that the FCC censoring people is a significantly bigger deal than private citizens being shitty people online.
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This whole thing is a business deal wrapped in political ideology.
There’s a long-standing FCC law that prevents the accumulation of media properties that reach in excess of 39% of all US households.
Nexstar (a media group owning and operating many ABC stations) is interested in buying another company that would result in a violation of this FCC rule. The rule exists to limit concentration of media influence.
The announcement to preempt Kimmel was a tactic to ingratiate themselves with the FCC chair so that he will make an exception to the rule. Hey, it worked for CBS (see, Colbert).
If you think the media conglomerates are already too big and have too much influence, then you should be pretty concerned about what is really going down behind all of this hand-waving about comedians.
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This is classic wag the dog.
This is not really about Kimmel and Kirk. However, the focus on them is really helpful to those want to continue to concentrate power.
Regardless of how you feel about Kirk, or really any person, it’s not right for their death and memory to be exploited and manipulated in this manner (for profit).
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@MR11 said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
@Kcmatt7 Agreed, but it is important to highlight that the FCC censoring people is a significantly bigger deal than private citizens being shitty people online.
Don’t disagree there. Crazy times
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@bskeet said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
This is classic wag the dog.
This is not really about Kimmel and Kirk. However, the focus on them is really helpful to those want to continue to concentrate power.
Regardless of how you feel about Kirk, or really any person, it’s not right for their death and memory to be exploited and manipulated in this manner.
Whole thing has been disgusting. Every bit of it.
On the bright side I do own some Intel stock. Was finally in on one of the government grifts! (I’m still down like 10% on my initial investment lol).
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I appreciate hearing everyones thoughts. Much the same as mine but more eloquently put.
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oooops my bad I thought was a sports topic, I’ll show my way out
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@kjayhawks encourage you to watch the clip of Kimmel. Theres nothing there.
@bskeet business masquerading as politics doesnt feel any less sinister, but youre right.
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@approxinfinity said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
encourage you to watch the clip of Kimmel. Theres nothing there.
Not only is there nothing there, but I’ve seen different clips used as the example. Exactly what is the offensive quote? I have not seen the text specified from ABC, NextStar, etc.
Lots of speculation and fervor which seems invited and encouraged by those that need a smokescreen.
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The last two administrations have been downright awful on speech. The Biden administration went after the social media giants, threatening antitrust actions and other regulatory measures for them not having administration approved moderation policies. Then obviously the FCC has taken that attitude a step further. I’m a big supporter of the organization FIRE and their mission. I’ve written in the past about important Supreme Court cases in this area like Bantam Books, NRA vs. Vullo, and Murthy v. Missouri. The key point is government attempting to coerce private actors into suppressing speech is clearly a violation of the First Amendment and we ought to condemn them no matter which political side you’re on.
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kimmels rating sucked. It was just an excuse. No one likes the overly political late night “comedians”. This way woke Disney can blame it on the right. psy-ops and it appears to be working.
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It has nothing to do with ratings. It has little to do with Kirk except that it’s a useful (opportunistic) narrative.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
Murthy v. Missouri
The decision on this was 24 hours before the announcement. Possibly emboldened the key players (FCC chair, NextStar, etc.)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Alitio wrote the dissenting opinion.
This group is counting on the public to focus on the trees and not the forest.
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@bskeet Murthy was decided over a year ago.
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@FarmerJayhawk Thx-- got mixed up with something else
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@dylans said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
kimmels rating sucked. It was just an excuse. No one likes the overly political late night “comedians”. This way woke Disney can blame it on the right. psy-ops and it appears to be working.That’s the other part to the equation, who knows if there is merit to it.
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@dylans well that and the company that owns a bunch of ABC affiliates has a major acquisition in front of the administration for approval and this administration is clear that if you want to do business you have to kiss the ass of Trump
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@approxinfinity my issue isn’t necessarily that he said it. It’s the fact that it is completely false and I think that is dangerous when you have people assassinating people on false pretenses that everyone that sees the world differently is a Nazi or evil. The funny thing is about Kimmel is he was plenty racist and sexist when he got his start on TV with the man show, even did black face.
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Also just going to drop this in here. Coase was right 65 years ago, we don’t need a FCC. https://web.stanford.edu/~dntse/papers/coase.pdf
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Brian Kilmeade says lets execute homeless people and is still spewing insanity on the insanity network.
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@kjayhawks said:
my issue isn’t necessarily that he said it. It’s the fact that it is completely false
My dude. We are talking about Kimmel getting canceled and why… right?
