Not paying for ESPN this year
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@dylans said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
kimmels rating sucked. It was just an excuse. No one likes the overly political late night ācomediansā. This way woke Disney can blame it on the right. psy-ops and it appears to be working.Thatās the other part to the equation, who knows if there is merit to it.
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@dylans well that and the company that owns a bunch of ABC affiliates has a major acquisition in front of the administration for approval and this administration is clear that if you want to do business you have to kiss the ass of Trump
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@approxinfinity my issue isnāt necessarily that he said it. Itās the fact that it is completely false and I think that is dangerous when you have people assassinating people on false pretenses that everyone that sees the world differently is a Nazi or evil. The funny thing is about Kimmel is he was plenty racist and sexist when he got his start on TV with the man show, even did black face.
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Also just going to drop this in here. Coase was right 65 years ago, we donāt need a FCC. https://web.stanford.edu/~dntse/papers/coase.pdf
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Brian Kilmeade says lets execute homeless people and is still spewing insanity on the insanity network.
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@kjayhawks said:
my issue isnāt necessarily that he said it. Itās the fact that it is completely false
My dude. We are talking about Kimmel getting canceled and whyā¦ right?
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@approxinfinity yes spreading false information on national Television should get you fired. A 100% of the time imo.
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@kjayhawks Unless you are president?
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@mayjay oh, SNAP!
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@mayjay Iād be fine with that as well, aināt been a president that hasnāt lied to the people in my life time.
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@dylans said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
kimmels rating sucked. It was just an excuse. No one likes the overly political late night ācomediansā. This way woke Disney can blame it on the right. psy-ops and it appears to be working.FCC chair is on podcasts and national TV threatening to revoke ABCās license cause of Kimmel.
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You guys find an honest politician let me know, sounds more like a unicornā¦ not real
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@kjayhawks said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
@approxinfinity my issue isnāt necessarily that he said it. Itās the fact that it is completely false and I think that is dangerous when you have people assassinating people on false pretenses that everyone that sees the world differently is a Nazi or evil. The funny thing is about Kimmel is he was plenty racist and sexist when he got his start on TV with the man show, even did black face.
āThe MAGA Gang (is) desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,ā Kimmel said. āIn between the finger-pointing, there was grieving.ā
You keep saying Kimmel said something false, but what about this is untrue? He doesnāt claim the killer is MAGA just that trump is desperate to believe he is not. You could say he is inferring that the kid is MAGA, but that is a far cry from him making a completely false statement. We also donāt know enough about the killer to say for sure what his reasonings for the murder was. You say you are pretty sure he wasnāt MAGA, but you arenāt certain because you are inferring from circumstantial evidence. Your post here has more false information than the Kimmel segment.
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@kjayhawks said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
You guys find an honest politician let me know, sounds more like a unicornā¦ not real.I can emphasis with this feeling age get why you say it, but these kind of statements arenāt helpful. There are definitely some politicians out there who want to help people, but to do so they have to make deals that go against their campaign promises in order to make actual progress. Then there are people who lie constantly and are just looking to line their own pocketbook. Both have lied, but there is an ocean of difference between them.
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And then they came for the comediansā¦
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@wissox Bucketeers are next
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@MR11 the guy told police he hated Trump so acting like he was a part of the MAGA crowd is false. Iāve spoke my opinion on the matter, it doesnāt have to line up with yours.
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@MR11 this is basically true. The problem is voters are like toddlers. Just like toddlers want to believe you can eat ice cream for every meal and never have to go to daycare, voters want to hear (and many believe) you can fix all our countryās issues by cutting waste, fraud, abuse, and foreign aid. And that Social Security would be totally fine if them darn politicians didnāt rob it!! Which of course is nonsense but thatās what they believe.
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@kjayhawks it didnāt stop the MAGA crowd from blaming āthe leftā before Kirkās blood was dry and we had literally no idea who did it, let alone why.
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Shot. https://x.com/rcpvideo/status/1969118654353617138?s=46
Chaser. https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/
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@FarmerJayhawk there is prob some truth o that but they didnāt go on national TV as a host and say it.
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Iām not maga by any stretch of imagination I think Trump is a dipshit 90% of time I just call out hypocrisy and false accusations when I see them. Yāall can put on my head stone āHe believe the facts and truth mattered over propagandaā. Any of yāall remember Twitter getting sued and losing for silencing and having incorrect fact checking against conservative posts? About Gina Carano fired from Disney for saying she didnāt support BLM? About Hank Williams Jrs song removed from Monday night football for negative remarks towards Obama? I could prob look up another 25 instances but I think you got my point their wasnāt any posts or complaints when that happened. Are you gonna cheer on the arsonist in the neighborhood til he gets to your house?
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No, I oppose cancel culture and wrote at the time how the Biden administration jawboning social media companies was dangerous.
This is also very different from those instances because the FCC has threatened ABCās license. At least for me, violating the First Amendment is much worse than a private company doing something dumb.
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I think @kjayhawks the main thread of this conversation seems to be about how troubling it is that the federal government is perhaps overstepping its authority and using the threat of government action on what should qualify as free speech.
We can all have our opinions on what Kimmel said, fine. Itās not about him or other people getting fired for their words. Thatās not really the point here.
But, when the Trump administration punishes broadcasters just because he feels their comedic bits donāt match with his opinion ā¦ well, thatās censorship. A serious violation of our civil liberties.
What or who is next??? scary
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@kjayhawks The difference between the situations youāve mentioned and what happened with Kimmel, and Stephen Colbert for that matter is that their cancelations came as a direct result of FCC meddling and interference. The chair of the FCC has already said theyāre going after the View next.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 @FarmerJayhawk maybe Iām off base and little off topic. I just donāt think itās right that anyone with remotely right wing train of thought for the last decade and half had been silenced outside of the garbage known as Fox News. Could you imagine the back lash if De Niro said F Obama or Biden when he accepted an award. You canāt say blacklisted fast enough. I will move on from the thread. I have spoken my opinion on the matter. I zero issue with the government stepping in to prevent fake news and unjust propaganda.
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If you have (as I do) at least a faint trepidation that this thread could be mined in the future to be used against you, and choosing words very carefully, then you should be able to appreciate the chilling effect of these actions by the FCC and current administration.
Itās a bit hard to get my head around why the President of the United States is engaging even one brain cell on late night TV. Let alone targeting American comedians (he tweeted that Fallon should be cancelled next). His tweet low-key sounded like the Emperor in Star Wars: āDo it NBC!!!ā
Why he is targeting Jimmy Fallon like heās Saddam Hussein?
Fallon is an anodyne comedian but the President is acting like thereās a stash of WMD at 30 Rockā¦ maybe hidden behind his desk??
Insane.
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@kjayhawks āCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the pressā¦ā
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@FarmerJayhawk lol
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@kjayhawks You bring up some good points and this is nothing new. For many years both sides of the political spectrum have been censoring the other and then turning around and complaining when the other side censors. It would be nice if more people called out both parties but unfortunately people will just continue to criticize the other partyās censorship while ignoring that of their own.
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@kjayhawks said in Not paying for ESPN this year:
@Texas-Hawk-10 @FarmerJayhawk maybe Iām off base and little off topic. I just donāt think itās right that anyone with remotely right wing train of thought for the last decade and half had been silenced outside of the garbage known as Fox News. Could you imagine the back lash if De Niro said F Obama or Biden when he accepted an award. You canāt say blacklisted fast enough. I will move on from the thread. I have spoken my opinion on the matter. I zero issue with the government stepping in to prevent fake news and unjust propaganda.
Thanks for confirming that you support government censorship and are anti-1st amendment.
