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@BeddieKU23 It’s not just Iowa St. Most Big 12 games are starting to resemble the old Big East from 20 years ago with the physicality league wide.
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I think specifically Iowa St is driving a lot of it this year but yes, in general the officiating has done nothing to stop it. They are consistently getting away with a level of physical play that I don’t think gets rewarded in the tournament.
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The officiating sucks this year. It’s way too selective. And the officials are inserting themselves on the game in weird ways – like instead of managing the physicality of the game, they are quick to give technicals for ticky tack stuff like coach disagreeing and throwing coaches out for stepping out of the box (Drew and Self). But again, it’s selective (focusing the two coaches that have won an NC?) because you can see some coaches all over the place.
Apparently this is what happens when Higgins is bumped up to the office. Boo.
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Wow. Holtmann out at OSU. You don’t see midseason firings very often. Will be a highly sought after gig
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Wow. Holtmann out at OSU. You don’t see midseason firings very often. Will be a highly sought after gig
OSU is atrocious this year. Never thought we’d see a season where them and Michigan are the bottom feeders of the Big 10, even in basketball. OSU is very similar to Texas in how they view basketball and while it’s definitely a good job, I don’t know I’d call it an elite job.
I’m also thinking Michigan will probably be open this year as well with how far they’ve sunk the past couple of seasons.
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Iowa State just kicking the crap out of Tech - -up 21 - - Their Physical -Their dirty - - -but their good/legit
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I don’t understand how Houston is kicking tail every game. Is Sampson a great recruiter, finding those gems Self and teams miss? Is he a great motivator, every game? Does he have a better all around staff for recruiting and teaching? -Their defense is physical and fouls aren’t called. They generally hit shots when it counts, either through talent or coaching.
- I was certain they would be an average team in the Big 12, but it turns out KU is the average team.
- I was certain they would be an average team in the Big 12, but it turns out KU is the average team.
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KU must win today to keep pace with bunch of other teams - -we win we be 1/2 game ahead of Tech , TCU ,if BYU wins they be there too.
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@jayballer67 KU lost their chance to win this conference blowing leads at UCF and KSU. I think we can get back on track today but we ain’t winning this conference. Need way too much help.
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TCU hits a late 3 to down KSUCK in Methattan, probably making the B12 tournament a must win for an NCAA tournament birth.
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@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 KU lost their chance to win this conference blowing leads at UCF and KSU. I think we can get back on track today but we ain’t winning this conference. Need way too much help.
Nah , I wasn’t even talking about that - -winning the Conference - -I’m talking about keeping pace with Tech , TCU , Baylor, and possibly BYU
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2-9 OSt beating BYU. Tough conference.
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@stoptheflop for everyone but Houston
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@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
I don’t understand how Houston is kicking tail every game. Is Sampson a great recruiter, finding those gems Self and teams miss? Is he a great motivator, every game? Does he have a better all around staff for recruiting and teaching? -Their defense is physical and fouls aren’t called. They generally hit shots when it counts, either through talent or coaching.
- I was certain they would be an average team in the Big 12, but it turns out KU is the average team.
Kelvin Sampson is a very good basketball coach amd has been for 40+ years, that’s why. This is not his first go around in the Big 12. He did coach OU for 12 years and made 11 NCAA Tournaments and only finished outside the top 3 in the Big 8/12 twice, and never had a losing conference record. He also won a Big 12 regular season title, 3 tournament titles, and made a Final Four in 2002. The man has a career .684 winning percentage and is generally considered a top 5 active coach.
- I was certain they would be an average team in the Big 12, but it turns out KU is the average team.
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Connecticut is ripping Marquette.
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Oklahoma has cooled down on there 3"s -wonder if we could hit one sometime
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What the hell Kevin
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Juan Finally
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Kevin FINALLY
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UK spanking Auburn
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Wow Virginia beats WF in 1980s big East style of game while shooting 9% from the FT line
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WOW , Ohio St taking it to Purdue right now. – Now it’s early right about 12 minutes to go in the 2nd half but Ohio St up 12- - -got this Dude name Battle just killin it from the three. – Ohio St defenders just like a bunch of pesky knats everttime they try to get Edey the ball
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DOWN GOES PURDUE. – Interim Coach’s first win against the # 2 team in the Nation
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Good for him!
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Scott Drew gets T-d up for stepping across the coaching box line, but watch this and no technical was called on Willard. Watch where his foot is when the ball comes up to him.
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The Purdue loss was super enjoyable for me.
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Refs tried really hard to give Purdue a shot with the ft fest late
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@wissox Oops, no link. Here it is. https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1758995241858679271?s=20
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@wissox I had no idea the coach could steal the ball. Gotta start watching out for Shaka when we play them, damn that 6th defender.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
Refs tried really hard to give Purdue a shot with the ft fest late
Edey gets insanely favorable treatment. Wish Hunter got it too LOL.
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@wissox so what did they end up calling on that?
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Wanna make sure I watch that Iowa State -Houston game tonight at 8:00 - -could be a dog fight. - -I’ve got Houston winning mainly cause they are at Houston. Iowa St got them at Ames - -just don’t think it’s happening in Houston
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He gets fouled a ton but he’s getting a lot of benefits as well. It was pretty clear the ref’s wanted that game tight late which they got but Ohio State made their FT’s late to seal it
I don’t know why refs hate us this year as a whole but they do. Hunter/Kev/KJ don’t get nearly the favorable whistle others do
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I’d really like to see AI applied to officiating… Not to remove the officials from the game, but to help drive consistency across the board. It wouldn’t be hard to build a model of plays (both with fouls and no-calls) and then have it show the likelihood that a play would be result in foul and on which player.
Imagine seeing contact on a play and the model references thousands of similar plays with similar contact and it shows on the screen that this was called a foul 87% of the time.
That would be instructional for the officials when they see which of their fouls are called the way they called it less than 25% of the time (that is, 75% of the time it is no call or called opposite). And it would hopefully eliminate some plays that are called differently 95% of the time… Like in this case, where a coach is off the bench, on the court during the game and grabs the ball in play… And then contrast that with a coach with one foot out of the box on the sideline getting a T or the shadow of a player’s heel over the line and the player is called out of bounds… Ridiculously inconsistent management of the game.
The goal would to be drive officiating toward norms.
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@dylans Wiscy plays Maryland tomorrow, I’ll report back to how he behaves. Edit, check that, I’d like to watch but it’s on Peacock.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Maryland ball. No penalty for Willard believe it or not.
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ISU on a pace for 20 pts for the game against Houston…6 pts after 12 minutes…
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I swear Houston hacks and gets away with it.
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We should’ve never lost to k-state
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@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
I swear Houston hacks and gets away with it.
2 of the best hackers in the league
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@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
We should’ve never lost to k-state
We have a few of those unfortunately
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@bskeet And all a game’s total officiating stats could be aggregated into an index or coefficient so you could compare across games, seasons, teams, venues… I’d love to have that reported in box scores, etc Good idea!
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@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
He gets fouled a ton but he’s getting a lot of benefits as well. It was pretty clear the ref’s wanted that game tight late which they got but Ohio State made their FT’s late to seal it
I don’t know why refs hate us this year as a whole but they do. Hunter/Kev/KJ don’t get nearly the favorable whistle others do
My physical therapist (small shoulder injury) is an OU fan, she claims KU gets all the calls at home. I said that’s the home whistle that any team gets with a good crowd. - that was Friday. She cancelled our Wednesday appointment, I’m curious why. lol
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@dylans I feel like the B12 refs got together and said we ain’t getting accused of being KU homers anymore. I feel like we don’t get crap for calls home or road at this point. I don’t have the metic or know where to get it but it seems like we shoot about 8 FTs less per game than opponents. Yet Hunter and Kevin get fouled often with no whistle
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@dylans said in Other bball games:
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
He gets fouled a ton but he’s getting a lot of benefits as well. It was pretty clear the ref’s wanted that game tight late which they got but Ohio State made their FT’s late to seal it
I don’t know why refs hate us this year as a whole but they do. Hunter/Kev/KJ don’t get nearly the favorable whistle others do
My physical therapist (small shoulder injury) is an OU fan, she claims KU gets all the calls at home. I said that’s the home whistle that any team gets with a good crowd. - that was Friday. She cancelled our Wednesday appointment, I’m curious why. lol
The funny thing is Hunter is getting fouled less (officially) and going to the line far less at Kansas than he was at Michigan. And BIG fans complain all the time about how the refs let too much go in that league which hurts them in the tournament where refs then start calling more fouls.
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@BShark I’m with Self. The refs are allowing too much physicality in the Big12. Normally that would favor KU, but someone is going to get hurt.
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Wow, UConn hasn’t beaten a ranked team on the road in 10 years. Makes you even more thankful for Billy Eugene
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Marquette gets the revenge home game soon too.
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Baylor loses to BYU. Tech wins by 1 against TCU.
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LSU just upset Kentucky on an insane final sequence.
