2023 Transfer Portal
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@kuballin10 I think the tomorrow stuff was premature. KU would obviously love it but it’s not a dealbreaker or anything.
Yep. I think ultimately he will be a Jayhawk.
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@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
So are people still thinking Zuby or Udeh transfers out ? - - no need as we have one Scholi left and the one I know we are really serious on is Mackenzie. - -I hate the thought one or the other of them leaving - -adds really good depth
Seems to be a given that one of them leaves. They just added a guy who’s playing at least 30 minutes a game and both were top 50 recruits that probably wanted an increased role at the very least.
Yep. Do we want them to transfer? No. Would I blame one of them for transferring? Also no. One of them is looking at being last on the depth chart…
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
So are people still thinking Zuby or Udeh transfers out ? - - no need as we have one Scholi left and the one I know we are really serious on is Mackenzie. - -I hate the thought one or the other of them leaving - -adds really good depth
Seems to be a given that one of them leaves. They just added a guy who’s playing at least 30 minutes a game and both were top 50 recruits that probably wanted an increased role at the very least.
Yep. Do we want them to transfer? No. Would I blame one of them for transferring? Also no. One of them is looking at being last on the depth chart…
I’m fascinated to see what we will do to fill that scholarship if it becomes available. Maybe just leave it ticketed for someone coming back from the draft?
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@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
So are people still thinking Zuby or Udeh transfers out ? - - no need as we have one Scholi left and the one I know we are really serious on is Mackenzie. - -I hate the thought one or the other of them leaving - -adds really good depth
Seems to be a given that one of them leaves. They just added a guy who’s playing at least 30 minutes a game and both were top 50 recruits that probably wanted an increased role at the very least.
Yep. Do we want them to transfer? No. Would I blame one of them for transferring? Also no. One of them is looking at being last on the depth chart…
I’m fascinated to see what we will do to fill that scholarship if it becomes available. Maybe just leave it ticketed for someone coming back from the draft?
I’m sure we will try, but my guess is we end up with roster filler. We won’t have a starting spot to sell.
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I’m going to be pissed if Udeh leaves… already showed signs of elite defense, and we could have three more years of that guy instead of one year of a transfer money grabber. Yuck.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
So are people still thinking Zuby or Udeh transfers out ? - - no need as we have one Scholi left and the one I know we are really serious on is Mackenzie. - -I hate the thought one or the other of them leaving - -adds really good depth
Seems to be a given that one of them leaves. They just added a guy who’s playing at least 30 minutes a game and both were top 50 recruits that probably wanted an increased role at the very least.
Yep. Do we want them to transfer? No. Would I blame one of them for transferring? Also no. One of them is looking at being last on the depth chart…
I’m fascinated to see what we will do to fill that scholarship if it becomes available. Maybe just leave it ticketed for someone coming back from the draft?
I’m sure we will try, but my guess is we end up with roster filler. We won’t have a starting spot to sell.
Gonna have to be picky now given the scholarship reduction and the fact that transfers can’t do it twice now. Don’t want to be stuck with someone.
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@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
So are people still thinking Zuby or Udeh transfers out ? - - no need as we have one Scholi left and the one I know we are really serious on is Mackenzie. - -I hate the thought one or the other of them leaving - -adds really good depth
Seems to be a given that one of them leaves. They just added a guy who’s playing at least 30 minutes a game and both were top 50 recruits that probably wanted an increased role at the very least.
Yep. Do we want them to transfer? No. Would I blame one of them for transferring? Also no. One of them is looking at being last on the depth chart…
I’m fascinated to see what we will do to fill that scholarship if it becomes available. Maybe just leave it ticketed for someone coming back from the draft?
I’m sure we will try, but my guess is we end up with roster filler. We won’t have a starting spot to sell.
Gonna have to be picky now given the scholarship reduction and the fact that transfers can’t do it twice now. Don’t want to be stuck with someone.
Yeah. If the Utah Valley kid will be eligible I like him a lot. Note: I’d rather keep Udeh if at all possible.
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@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
So are people still thinking Zuby or Udeh transfers out ? - - no need as we have one Scholi left and the one I know we are really serious on is Mackenzie. - -I hate the thought one or the other of them leaving - -adds really good depth
Seems to be a given that one of them leaves. They just added a guy who’s playing at least 30 minutes a game and both were top 50 recruits that probably wanted an increased role at the very least.
I understand that just hate to see good kids that develop during their 4 years. have seen it over and over with Bill --Sad that there has to be someone that loses in these situations.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
So are people still thinking Zuby or Udeh transfers out ? - - no need as we have one Scholi left and the one I know we are really serious on is Mackenzie. - -I hate the thought one or the other of them leaving - -adds really good depth
Seems to be a given that one of them leaves. They just added a guy who’s playing at least 30 minutes a game and both were top 50 recruits that probably wanted an increased role at the very least.
Yep. Do we want them to transfer? No. Would I blame one of them for transferring? Also no. One of them is looking at being last on the depth chart…
I’m fascinated to see what we will do to fill that scholarship if it becomes available. Maybe just leave it ticketed for someone coming back from the draft?
I’m sure we will try, but my guess is we end up with roster filler. We won’t have a starting spot to sell.
Gonna have to be picky now given the scholarship reduction and the fact that transfers can’t do it twice now. Don’t want to be stuck with someone.
Yeah. If the Utah Valley kid will be eligible I like him a lot. Note: I’d rather keep Udeh if at all possible.
that’s actually a great call. Hold him for a year and then he starts when Hunter leaves if he doesn’t get the waiver. That being said he entered the portal and immediately talked about mental health so we’ll see on that.
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@DanR said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I’m going to be pissed if Udeh leaves… already showed signs of elite defense, and we could have three more years of that guy instead of one year of a transfer money grabber. Yuck.
Zuby is a better overall defender than Udeh.
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I can see us taking a look at papa kante if zuby or udeh leave. Four star recruit and a guy who played with elmarko this year
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I’d love for Udeh and Zuby to stay and develop, similar to Dave M trajectory.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 On the block, sure I’ll give you that.
Swatting or altering shots or stealing it - no.
Eye test says give me Udeh all day with the higher ceiling. He can go catch lobs Zuby just can’t get to.
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Udeh has so much untapped potential. All he needs is coaching. He was so raw at the beginning of the season, he was unplayable. By the end he was a contributor. In year three he would be a star- Udeh just needs an opportunity to play and some patience.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 udeh is much longer though, higher ceiling. Zuby wont be an elite shot blocker.
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All moot now. Hardly knew ye Zuby
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Pure insanity at this point
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@approxinfinity said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Texas-Hawk-10 udeh is much longer though, higher ceiling. Zuby wont be an elite shot blocker.
Longer doesn’t necessarily mean a higher ceiling or better shot blocker because Zuby did have a significantly higher block rate than Udeh. Zuby just wasn’t as flashy or make the highlight plays that Udeh did. Doesn’t matter now though obviously.
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Is there any chance that McCullar comes back?
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@dylans said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Is there any chance that McCullar comes back?
Very slim BUT maybe depends on how his NBA tryouts go. - -Got invited to the Combine I think
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@dylans said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Is there any chance that McCullar comes back?
If McCullar is very likely to get a two-way contract, he won’t be back. If his feedback is that it’s very unlikely he’d get a two-way contract, then that’s when there becomes an increased chance If him withdrawing from the draft.
Based on where most mocks have him ranked, he’s got a pretty good shot at getting a two-way deal with some team.
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Not to be negative, but I’m curious. When McCullars transferred in, it was partially the “atmosphere of family” that drew him. This coming year there are 3 returning players. I’m wondering how HCBS will create that again with all the new guys. Puerto Rico will help but what the team had last year was because they bonded over a couple of years.
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@Gorilla72 might not be enough balls to go around.
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@Gorilla72 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Not to be negative, but I’m curious. When McCullars transferred in, it was partially the “atmosphere of family” that drew him. This coming year there are 3 returning players. I’m wondering how HCBS will create that again with all the new guys. Puerto Rico will help but what the team had last year was because they bonded over a couple of years.
They also lost in the round of 32.
This years team will be better.
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@Kcmatt7 - the accent is on “team”. Although I doubt HCBS will allow “hero ball”.
Last year’s team won the Big 12 in part by relying on each other during tough games. The round of 32 loss was most likely due, in large part, to Self’s illness.
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Of all the transfer news this is probably the most shocking. https://twitter.com/CBBcontent/status/1654519154634833920?s=20
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Gorilla72 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Not to be negative, but I’m curious. When McCullars transferred in, it was partially the “atmosphere of family” that drew him. This coming year there are 3 returning players. I’m wondering how HCBS will create that again with all the new guys. Puerto Rico will help but what the team had last year was because they bonded over a couple of years.
They also lost in the round of 32.
This years team will be better.
Much better especially if we land Mgbako and 1 more nba late pull out.
Last years team would have gotten beat by uconn the next round anyways.
We peaked in December against missery and Iu.
Had really close big 12 wins against bottom teams
We were good but not great
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@wissox said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Of all the transfer news this is probably the most shocking. https://twitter.com/CBBcontent/status/1654519154634833920?s=20
Coach K would like a word with him
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Over/under on 1 incoming freshman coming back after next yr. Not really a point in getting to know them or care at this point.
So which incoming freshman do we think could return after a year?
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Now Zuby has entered the portal. The portal has really changed college basketball: I see plenty of good things about letting young athletes change schools, but I’m going to miss watching players grow over several years at KU. Coach Self appears to be making room for another player. Maybe he has a hint about Kevin.
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@stoptheflop The opportunity cost of Hunter Dickinson. We lose a kid I was excited about.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I might be biased. That’s interesting that Zuby had a higher block rate. Ideally do you think he develops into a first rounder somewhere else? What do you think his ceiling is?
Also a good point about Self recruiting 2 guys at the same position / same year in Udeh and Zuby. Wondering why he did that, and was that the highest profile same class pair of bigs he recruited other than Morrii? Sasha / Darnell were 4 stars.
And why? Insurance policy? Best available player?
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Zuby chose to leave. Was absolutely not asked to leave. I get why, the article in the star was pretty good actually.
Link: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article275107161.html
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@BShark Philacheck sounds very reasonable. Appreciate them leaving the door open to returning if somehow it shakes out that way. I’m guessing that means if Ernest departs we could still see Zuby back.
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@approxinfinity It seems Philacheck feels the same way about the portal as I do. It’s great for the stratification of talent.
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@approxinfinity said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark Philacheck sounds very reasonable. Appreciate them leaving the door open to returning if somehow it shakes out that way. I’m guessing that means if Ernest departs we could still see Zuby back.
Think that could very easily be on the table. Would make sense that we could retain one of them, then add a Martin/Whitman/Maxwell level guy for depth.
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@BShark yuck
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Tyson announced he’s transferring to Cal.
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Cal loading up to win 9 games this year
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Not someone KU likely goes after but Marshall’s SG Andrew Taylor enters the portal. Averaged 20ppg (crazy that was 2nd on the team in scoring) off 41% FG, 36% from 3, 4.7 boards & assists. Stat stuffer
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Not someone KU likely goes after but Marshall’s SG Andrew Taylor enters the portal. Averaged 20ppg (crazy that was 2nd on the team in scoring) off 41% FG, 36% from 3, 4.7 boards & assists. Stat stuffer
Was gonna post this myself. - -I would like to see them contact him at least for sure, might just be the one we needed to fill that other spot & then Mgbako too
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I don’t see the fit. Figures to be a commodity given his stats and timing of entering the portal.
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@wissox I hate to see this as well, But… I see part of Self’s change cause of things like recruiting a new roster every year because of one-and-dones, transfers, SEC buying schools/athletes with TV contracts, the revolving door portal- if you don’t use the NIL can you expect to win? The ncaa was so concerned with the shoe money( only Adidas money-not Nike money??) and now has opened the floodwater with NIL (possibly to become an unregulated cash flow)!! It’s now TV money calling the shots. If we don’t compete we will no longer be able to win. The rules have changed! We’ll just have wait and see what happens and hope for the best!
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Zuby Ejiofor has visits scheduled with Villanova, St. John’s, TCU, and San Diego St.
He’d be a really good fit at any of those 4 as they’re all very much defensively minded programs. SDSU is a really intriguing fit to me with them coming off their first Final Four appearance.
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Axtecs pls
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@Texas-Hawk-10 thanks for the update! Glad to hear his stock is high and he has some high profile interest.
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@coolfool13 The funny thing is I hate what it’s doing to all the non KU’s of the world. We’re gonna get our guys via recruiting and the portal. But some guy ends up at a solid mid major, like Dayton lets say, and plays very well, and suddenly he sees greener pastures and bolts leaving the solid mid major fans sad and depressed.
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We had oustanding parity this tourney. This is a glass half full / half empty question
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@wissox said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@coolfool13 The funny thing is I hate what it’s doing to all the non KU’s of the world. We’re gonna get our guys via recruiting and the portal. But some guy ends up at a solid mid major, like Dayton lets say, and plays very well, and suddenly he sees greener pastures and bolts leaving the solid mid major fans sad and depressed.
The counter to that though is a lot of top tier talent that doesn’t get early playing time also moves down to these high level mid major programs. FAU, SDSU, and Creighton this year, Houston making the Elite 8 in 2022 and Final Four in 2021, and in 2020 Dayton, Creighton, and SDSU all were going to be top 2 seeds and have a good chance to make the Elite 8 or deeper. Every team above was a mid major that made at least the Elite 8 in the NCAA tournament. This new reality of the portal hasn’t stopped mid major teams from making deep runs.
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It’s happening!!! https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/1658957153250492419?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
