Next Year's Team Thread
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I think CB has a great chance to be a long time pro in the NBA. His game is fairly well rounded already. He has shown that he can both shoot and handle on the offensive end. He rebounds his position. While he likely won’t be an elite defender in the NBA, he probably will be a solid one. He needs to get stronger, but that’s unlikely to happen until he gets to work with pros on strength and conditioning, gets a meal plan to put on weight that won’t cost him his explosiveness, etc. And he’s no slouch as an athlete. Plus, with his size he can play in any wing combination.
CB essentially took the advice that Och got last year and applied it to his own game. While some may think he wasn’t better this year, I thought he took a substantial step forward this year, and if he gets feedback, I think scouts will say the same.
The question for Braun is really if he believes he can move from NBA role player to NBA starter by coming back. If not, there’s no reason to return. He has a championship. He has accolades. If improving his shooting and consistency make him a lottery pick next year, perhaps he should return. But if all it does is move him up from mid second round to late first, he hasn’t gained much.
Ultimately, with the NBA emphasizing shooting at all positions, there’s a pretty decent chance that Braun is a coveted player. He can shoot it, and he doesn’t hurt you defensively, size wise, or on the glass.
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@Jethro said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@jayballer67 I think the only way he leaves for the draft is if the NCAA hammers us b4 the draft. If I’m wrong, I assure you I will be the first to admit it. I say he declares for the draft with the option to come back, and he takes that option and comes back. I could be wrong- I was wrong about Embiid. But I don’t think so…lol.
I’d love CB to be back, but if the feedback he gets is that he’ll be a late first-early second round pick, he’s likely gone because he won’t improve his draft stock very much coming back.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@Jethro said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@jayballer67 I think the only way he leaves for the draft is if the NCAA hammers us b4 the draft. If I’m wrong, I assure you I will be the first to admit it. I say he declares for the draft with the option to come back, and he takes that option and comes back. I could be wrong- I was wrong about Embiid. But I don’t think so…lol.
I’d love CB to be back, but if the feedback he gets is that he’ll be a late first-early second round pick, he’s likely gone because he won’t improve his draft stock very much coming back.
that’s my thought I just don’t think he is going to improve his stock enough to come back. The mock draft I saw Cb in had him as the 2nd pick in the 2nd round and I really have a hard time thinking he would eve make 1st round
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Jalen
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For those wondering the deadline to declare is April 24th and the deadline to remove from the draft is June 13th
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NIL is huge. Jalen will make more next year at KU than he would in the GLeague.
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Plus they are going to clean up on this barnstorming tour
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@BeddieKU23 Posted on the phog that CB and JWill got 15k each from Canes for that one day appearance. That ain’t bad.
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Getting that bread!
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This is honestly the best chance any school will have I think at returning a big chunk of players from a Title team with the goal of repeated ala Florida. NIL is new and exciting for the players. They can actually earn some money and spend an entire year cashing in on the championship. Apart from Och, there are NO first round guarantees. The 2nd highest on the draft boards (Braun) is a local kid who loves Kansas and has basically a brother who will definitely be returning. Dave seems to like school and why not tack on some more degrees while cashing in on that Natty coin? Jalen could come back for a true redemption year after he got off to a shaky start this year. There’s legit reasons for 4 out of 5 starters to stay next year. I still find it HIGHLY unlikely and at best we likely keep 3 of 5 but it is possible.
Question is, if we keep all 4 and only lose och, will we be athletic enough to win it again? (insert wink emoji here)
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Until it’s official anything can happen but its very likely only 2 of the 7 guys that were in regular rotation at the end of the season will be back.
We’ll see some spots open up for transfers as there’s 2 very likely candidates going. Lot’s of fits and needs out there. Two in particular seem to have interest in KU unofficially.
KU did well getting its best recruiting class in several years with so many upperclassmen. The 2 guard/wings can play right away. The two bigs will play but will be developed and used as needed.
A lot will change between now and June
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NIL could make college basketball much better again.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Until it’s official anything can happen but its very likely only 2 of the 7 guys that were in regular rotation at the end of the season will be back.
We’ll see some spots open up for transfers as there’s 2 very likely candidates going. Lot’s of fits and needs out there. Two in particular seem to have interest in KU unofficially.
KU did well getting its best recruiting class in several years with so many upperclassmen. The 2 guard/wings can play right away. The two bigs will play but will be developed and used as needed.
A lot will change between now and June
Yeah if I were betting right now I would say two. Remy and Mitch have of course exhausted their eligibility. Dave and Och are going. They would be great again at KU but it’s time to move on. That’s 4/7 gone already.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
NIL could make college basketball much better again.
My only argument against it at this point is it caused TOO many dudes to stay lol. In combination with extra covid years we had so many vets playing ball, guys who can play college defense, and it made the games SO boring. The tournament only had a few teams willing to run. (Oddly enough those teams faired pretty well).
But yea the NIL stuff is going to get a lot more guys to stay. Especially those borderline draft guys. It was and will be great for the sport/player retention.
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@Kcmatt7 Yeah all the big boys are going to be paying better than Europe/GLeague. If you don’t mind kinda going to class-ish (that is a deal breaker for some guys of course) then it’s a no brainer.
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Keep seeing Tshiebwe may return to UK for a multi-million dollar NIL deal. Any truth to this? Wild
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NIL is market correction to what was happening which was College Bball getting gutted by guys leaving early when they had no chance to stick in the league. Imagine how many fringe talented kids left that would have stayed now with legit NIL opportunities. It’s certainly leveled the playing field somewhat and will hopefully positively impact the game going forward
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Keep seeing Tshiebwe may return to UK for a multi-million dollar NIL deal. Any truth to this? Wild
Kentucky might be in full panic mode with us passing them in total wins and Bill getting his second title before Cal, oh and Saint Peters. I imagine they will throw all the money they have at this problem.
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He’s viewed as a 2nd round pick so another year to cash in on guaranteed money vs unguaranteed seems like an awful good deal.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
NIL is market correction to what was happening which was College Bball getting gutted by guys leaving early when they had no chance to stick in the league. Imagine how many fringe talented kids left that would have stayed now with legit NIL opportunities. It’s certainly leveled the playing field somewhat and will hopefully positively impact the game going forward
HEMs everywhere are MALDING
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@BeddieKU23 Posted on the phog that CB and JWill got 15k each from Canes for that one day appearance. That ain’t bad.
I read somewhere that the guys are in Wichita on a “barnstorming tour” today. Costs are from $30 to 125 each fan, so they’re going to rake.
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Per Front Office Sports, players will get 70% of the revenue on the tour and 100% of the revenue from items that are auctioned.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Per Front Office Sports, players will get 70% of the revenue on the tour and 100% of the revenue from items that are auctioned.
I hope they each make a huge amount.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
He’s viewed as a 2nd round pick so another year to cash in on guaranteed money vs unguaranteed seems like an awful good deal.
Why is he so unloved by the NBA?
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Very unique situation for them and it’s great to see, they earned it
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Not sure. My best guess is the lack of a perimeter game/shooting skill. He’s a beast in the paint but you look at the bigs that will go in the first round and he’s more like Doke then he is Smith/Holmgren/Banchero.
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@BeddieKU23 NBA doesn’t care about rebounds anymore??
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Besides the shooting he’s only 6’9 and doesn’t have elite level athleticism & has struggled scoring over length in his college career. He won’t be able to play the 4 position in the NBA so he’s a bit small playing the 5. He’s also seen a bit of a liability defensively. What he lacks he more then tries to make up for by being one of the best rebounders the game has ever seen
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Keep seeing Tshiebwe may return to UK for a multi-million dollar NIL deal. Any truth to this? Wild
I’m curious to see the amount. But I think returning is in his best interest if it is even just $1M.
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JCL looks like he’ll have work to do with the Barn Stormers. They’ll be flush with cash and need advising.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Very unique situation for them and it’s great to see, they earned it
Nice to be coming off a natty, should raise the amount.
This is not new, but advertising it publicly sure is lol.
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BTW, Big Dave was named B12 Scholar athlete of the year.
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Ive been hearing that we shouldn’t be shocked if we see Oscar and Kofi back next year.
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Neither a great fit at the next level based on their skill sets so they can cash in on NIL
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Keep seeing Tshiebwe may return to UK for a multi-million dollar NIL deal. Any truth to this? Wild
Tshiebwe isn’t a great fit at the NBA level. Too small to play as a center, not a good enough shooter to play the 4. He’s a great college player, but may not find a role as a pro.
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@justanotherfan said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Keep seeing Tshiebwe may return to UK for a multi-million dollar NIL deal. Any truth to this? Wild
Tshiebwe isn’t a great fit at the NBA level. Too small to play as a center, not a good enough shooter to play the 4. He’s a great college player, but may not find a role as a pro.
Aas great a rebounder as he is, Tshiebwe will find a role in the NBA. He also has a 7-4 wingspan so he won’t have an issue playing the 5. I wouldn’t expect him to be a superstar but he’s definitely someone I could see as a role player for 10+ years in the league based on his rebounding alone.
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I am with you… Tshiebwe finds a fit somewhere. And who says he can’t develop more skills to become a more viable player? The guy has scrap and sense for getting to the ball… something not really taught anywhere.
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I think he could eventually find a spot in the pros, but he has some things working against him. He’s a guy that would have been a lottery pick 20 years ago but makes you think about it now.
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https://twitter.com/RockChalkBlog/status/1514754053762428932?t=vyz-iJSXbWRMdB4jxN6PBQ&s=19
One More Year!
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@BeddieKU23 LOAD THE WAGON
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For sure… but part of not being back 20 years ago is players have more developmental options when getting to the pro level today.
My premise is that Tshiebwe develops considerably after college. That will be the determining factor for him sticking it out in the league.
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I heard Kansas is sniffing on Dexter Dennis. Anyone else know something about that?
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@justanotherfan said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Keep seeing Tshiebwe may return to UK for a multi-million dollar NIL deal. Any truth to this? Wild
Tshiebwe isn’t a great fit at the NBA level. Too small to play as a center, not a good enough shooter to play the 4. He’s a great college player, but may not find a role as a pro.
There’s always a place in the NBA for a great rebounder.
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@drgnslayr yiiikes. Hard pass.
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@BShark wsu guy?
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@Crimsonorblue22 yeah, he is not great.
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Stunning statistic.
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Four Big 12 teams in the top 10. Also speaks to the strength of the conference. You get a win in the Big 12 and it’s probably against a ranked team. Great stat.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@drgnslayr yiiikes. Hard pass.
Watched some tape. I take it back he can play at the P5 level.
