2021 Transfer Talk/List
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@RockkChalkk Garrett is a crutch for Bill. The type of player on the roster that let’s Bill be “comfortable.”
He doesn’t have to manufacture points or make the offense better if he can just play Garrett 35 mpg and have a rock fight. He’s good at rock fights.
But Bill Self rock fight teams have historically performed poorly in the tournament.
Garrett was a great hawk and an exceptional defender, but honestly I think we are better off playing 5 on 5 on the offensive side of the ball. You know Bill will make the defense work even if he played 5 walk-ons.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
You know Bill will make the defense work even if he played 5 walk-ons.
12th ranked ADJD with the group this year… Bill could have a bag of rocks and land in the top 25.
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I hear you. But to be fair, playing Garrett isn’t the reason we didn’t have scoring. There wasn’t another option on the roster. This year’s team was missing a lot of pieces. Its just hard to keep up when you see the rest of the team getting knocked for their (lack of) defense - i.e. Wilson, but are also presumably happy to see a defensive player of the year caliber starter move on.
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I’d take Garrett the wing back in a heartbeat. If he can replicate what he did off the ball in 19-20 while maintaining his improvement from the line he’s definitely one of the best players in the league.
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@RockkChalkk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
I hear you. But to be fair, playing Garrett isn’t the reason we didn’t have scoring. There wasn’t another option on the roster. This year’s team was missing a lot of pieces. Its just hard to keep up when you see the rest of the team getting knocked for their (lack of) defense - i.e. Wilson, but are also presumably happy to see a defensive player of the year caliber starter move on.
I like to call last year’s roster “oops all wings”.
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@RockkChalkk I have had my same thoughts for the entire 3 years of Garrett starting… So maybe I simply have a bias.
I just think scoring a basketball is more important trait than stopping someone else from scoring. When you don’t need Garrett to score because he’s playing next to two NBA players, then having him play D is great.
If you don’t have that, you need Garrett to be a threat. And he just isn’t.
Would I be pissed if Garrett came back? No. But knowing what we have in Garrett vs. what is behind door #2 I’ll take my chances with door #2 is all I’m saying.
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Harris and Yesufu are good enough to man the PG spot next year with Garrett playing off the ball. Harris and Garrett were a very solid combo last year with Harris as the lead guard and Garrett playing off the ball.
Garrett playing off the ball allows him to play his defense and be the NDPOY caliber defender that we didn’t always see last season.
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https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie/status/1382121507250270209
New top want. Total stud, long line etc
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oh hai
Not a great shooter but certainly can improve when he’s not the #1 option.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
oh hai
Not a great shooter but certainly can improve when he’s not the #1 option.
Seeing that he was an Adidas kid as well. Hmm hmm hmm.
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@BShark This is the one Bill needs to land.
I’m good with Collins too off the bench. But Williams fits a need and seems like the type of player to fit with Self. Very active on D.
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And he was only a freshman this season. I’m sure everyone wants him though.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Just gonna mention the timing is interesting here. Shortly after the Bryce news, and the transfer caught the Wyoming coaches off guard.
And of course as mentioned, Adidas kid which is not to be undersold here as Yesufu and Bobby are Adidas all the way as well.
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It would certainly be a nice player to get, because we would probably have him for multiple years. Him being Adidas makes me think KU has a shot.
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Veciene’s take over at The Athletic, “He’s a terrific athlete who can create a shot from all three levels. More of an adept shooter than a truly good one, that will be the biggest growth area for him as he continues his development. If he can lock down that skill, he should turn into a legitimate high-major all-conference player. NBA scouts reached out early in the season with some interest, too, after averaging nearly 20 points and six assists in his first five collegiate games. With four years left in his eligibility, he’s one of the more valuable players available now. He’ll have interest across the country.”
WANT
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How on earth did he end up at Wyoming? But yeah that’s being rectified I am sure he ends up at a P5 school.
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@FarmerJayhawk He is my new top want and I don’t think it’s close.
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Kyler Edwards to Houston.
Aundre Hyatt a very active 3/4 man in the portal from LSU. he would be intriguing
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Yes please 1,000 times. How did this kid end up at Wyoming? wow
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@FarmerJayhawk if garrett comes back there are going to be a lot of disappointed players on the team. Self is putting together the equivalent of 2 rosters but will most likely only play half of it. The other half of the roster is going to be in shock when they figure it out
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David Collins will have a zoom call with Kansas today
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Jalen’s friend Devion Harmon in the portal.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Jalen’s friend Devion Harmon in the portal.
Self should definitely look into that.
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@BeddieKU23 The rumors are hot and heavy right now. Harmon still going through the NBA draft testing process.
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OU people thought he was coming back as of like 5 days ago so something changed. I hope we tampered tbh.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BeddieKU23 The rumors are hot and heavy right now. Harmon still going through the NBA draft testing process.
No brainer in my mind to get him
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@FarmerJayhawk He is my new top want and I don’t think it’s close.
I just think we have ANYMORE Scholi’s to offer do we? - -With Cuffe re-classifying , pretty well take any thought of Marcus coming back - -I think we are full aren’t we ?
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@FarmerJayhawk He is my new top want and I don’t think it’s close.
I just think we have ANYMORE Scholi’s to offer do we? - -With Cuffe re-classifying , pretty well take any thought of Marcus coming back - -I think we are full aren’t we ?
We still have 1 open. If Wilson and or OA do not come back we could have 2-3.
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@Woodrow said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@FarmerJayhawk He is my new top want and I don’t think it’s close.
I just think we have ANYMORE Scholi’s to offer do we? - -With Cuffe re-classifying , pretty well take any thought of Marcus coming back - -I think we are full aren’t we ?
We still have 1 open. If Wilson and or OA do not come back we could have 2-3.
We still have 1 even with Cuffe ? - - ok cool thanks. We have been having so much movement can’t keep up - -I am beginning to thinking with ALL this better chance of Ochai - - NOT coming back
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We have two because Ochai is gooooone.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
We have two because Ochai is gooooone.
you sound really Confident that he is
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Has then anymore about the possibility of Bishop ?
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
We have two because Ochai is gooooone.
I get that guys go pro for different reasons, but there is not one reputable draft expert that has Ochai even getting drafted. Chad Ford just released his top 65 prospects and he nor Wilson were listed. It just seems insane to me that he is going to go to the combine ( if he gets invited) and be told he will not be drafted and keep his name in.
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@Woodrow Yeah I know and I’d rather have him back but I’ve been told to expect that Ochai will leave and Jalen will be back. Will be interesting to see how things shake out.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@RockkChalkk said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
I hear you. But to be fair, playing Garrett isn’t the reason we didn’t have scoring. There wasn’t another option on the roster. This year’s team was missing a lot of pieces. Its just hard to keep up when you see the rest of the team getting knocked for their (lack of) defense - i.e. Wilson, but are also presumably happy to see a defensive player of the year caliber starter move on.
I like to call last year’s roster “oops all wings”.
Nice. I’d like to call them “not-so-spicy-wings” or “I’ve had better wings.”
Or maybe “All wings, no flight”.
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KU has reached out to Marcus Williams
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It’s Shay so TIFWIW
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@BShark I don’t want someone who progressively got worse every season. Collins is an offensive black hole at the mid major level and would be a waste of a scholarship at KU.
Collins is a high volume shooter who can’t shoot and KU can doicj better than David Collins.
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@Woodrow said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
We have two because Ochai is gooooone.
I get that guys go pro for different reasons, but there is not one reputable draft expert that has Ochai even getting drafted. Chad Ford just released his top 65 prospects and he nor Wilson were listed. It just seems insane to me that he is going to go to the combine ( if he gets invited) and be told he will not be drafted and keep his name in.
If Ochai gets the feedback that he likely wouldn’t improve his draft stock coming back, like what happened with Selden after his junior year, then Ochai leaving is the right decision.
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Bishop released a top 3 of Kansas, UNC and Texas.
@FarmerJayhawk are you hearing anything?
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Bishop released a top 3 of Kansas, UNC and Texas.
@FarmerJayhawk are you hearing anything?
He will be announcing on Saturday
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Bishop released a top 3 of Kansas, UNC and Texas.
@FarmerJayhawk are you hearing anything?
Gut says Texas. There’s significant pressure from his circle to stay home though.
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I really don’t see Christian Bishop being a good fit on KU next season. He’d likely be a 4 instead of a 5 here, but he’s got no outside game and would have to play near the basket next to McCormack and we’ve seen how much the offense struggled when Doke was the other big with Dave and Bishop is nowhere near Doke.
Christian Bishop is a very good player, but I just don’t see Kansas being the place where he’d be able to excel and think he would actuallake the offense worse. You have to have a 4 that can stretch the floor playing next to Save and that’s not Bishop.
Defensively, Bishop is a huge upgrade over Wilson and Clemence so he makes sense on that end of the floor, but I think the offense suffers too much to overcome his defense.
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KU is saying he’d be Jalen’s backup. He could play beside Martin or at the 5 but I agree with Tex, can’t play Bishop and Dave together.
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@FarmerJayhawk Yeah Bossi backed this up on 247. Which makes it sound like Jalen should be back…
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It sure would be nice to return 1 starter, is that too much to ask?
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@BShark Did Bossi say what he was hearing on Bishop?
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
It sure would be nice to return 1 starter, is that too much to ask?
You mean like Braun and McCormack that are for sure returning and McCormack that will for sure be starting next season?
