Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March



  • @Jhawk69 Remy was sg as I’ve proven because he started next to Juan as no way Bill would sit his golden boy

    Elmarko wasn’t taking his place Juan’s place as a frosh - zero clue how Elmarko proves ur point

    Go look at those classes high school and portal wise

    Rylan and Storr……mentioning those guys right now as “proof” kj didn’t hurt recruiting as you’ve watched this season transpire is an odd way to view it

    Grant Nelson, Harrison Ingram……do some research or talk to the “in the know” guys here when it comes to Bill’s love for KJ keeping those better players (not just better nba prospects even though they are) from transferring here

    It’s alright Oats has Nelson and Philon and sure appreciates it. Buddy was at practice the other day and said it’s been real tough with how they are playing but sec is a freaking gauntlet this year. At uk win should get them back on track.

    Sears at the 1, Philon at the 1/2, Nelson at the 4 and big Cliff at the 5……id trade our 4 starters in those spots for bama’s in a heartbeat but no way in hell would Bill.

    Bill’s talent evaluation and roster construction has been struggling lately since the portal. More misses than hits



  • It goes without saying… having players like Juan and KJ restrict recruiting because players know those two chew up PT. So it makes them just that more important to this team to play to their potential. Juan continues to tick up his ppg. But his play looks more inconsistent because Self is using him different. We often now run what Self calls “positionless” offense. I don’t really understand what he’s doing. Our spacing in recent games looks atrocious. Part of that is KJ and his threatless presence to score even as the defense gives him wide open 12 footers. We had a better offense when he consistently hit 3 or 4 of those midrange floaters. Now he can’t make them if his life depends on it. It’s like the rest of our pathetic Trey ball shooting. For whatever reason, our guys feel no shooting confidence any longer ( except ZEKE) !

    If suddenly our guys felt confident and start shooting 35+% from trey our offense will flow again. It would help if we could get Hunter to play more effective in the paint to help sink in defenses. He’s just putting along hoping KJ will start hitting midrange shots again.

    Our offense is very specific and rigid. No one drives except Zeke so no FTs or other benefits like drive and kicks. Seems like everyone is afraid to make a mistake!



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 I’m just saying he’s a volume shooter and we already have two players that demand a high volume of shots. Basically there are only so many shots to go around so who would we want Storr taking them from. He is one of the least efficient options on the team.

    Of course the biggest problem with Storr is his defense and he was a big part of a bad kstate offense scoring a lot of points.



  • @Jhawk69 said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @kuballin10 DaJuan started those early games because of Jalen’s DUI suspension. Then Jalen replaced Remy because Remy was playing through an injury/missing time. When Remy got back to full health Bill didn’t want to tinker with our starting lineup anymore, but still gave Remy lots of pt.

    With DaJuan on the roster we landed Remy (the top transfer portal pg of his season) and Elmarko Jackson (5* pg recruit). He didn’t hurt recruiting.

    With KJ on the roster we landed Udeh, Ejiofor, AJ, Rylan, and Hunter. He didn’t hurt recruiting either.

    Hurt recruiting might be the wrong terminology but he certainly impacted recruiting as Self wasn’t recruiting over him.

    See: Harrison Ingram and Grant Nelson, among a few others.



  • I think the real problem starts with philosophy and talent. I’ve said this before and it’s a tough pill to swallow if statistics are all you lean on, but Hunter is the problem. He gives Self the security blanket that allows him to believe he can still run the stuff he used to get to where he is as a coach. And while Hunter gets his points and rebounds and even assists, his presence in the game takes up so much physical and philosophical space that no one else is going to be able to thrive. The whole goal is to get the ball to Hunter and then see what happens from there. And while he has games where his touch is on, he also takes some of the worst shots that just don’t even come close I’ve ever seen. He is slow. When he gets the ball, it sticks and everyone waits to see what will happen next. Zeke has been the only one who seems capable of not being distracted or dissuaded by gravity Hunter demands. I’ve argued before and will continue to that there is a reason Hunter has averaged a double double his entire career and never won any game of significance. He can be great, but through either his lack of effort, talent, or energy, seems unable to sustain that game to game. The same could be argued of the other transfers apart from Griffin. Not sure what is going on there.

    As for KJ, I think engagement and energy is what Self sees and the only other player that brings those two things to the level KJ does is Flory, Juan, and Zeke (maybe Diggy…). Shaq is getting there and that’s why he is starting. If you pay attention, it’s not hard to see AJ and Rylan seeming to float through the game. They are getting minutes (though limited for sure) but not really making any impact in those minutes. If they don’t do anything in 8 minutes, why should self think they will do anything in 25? KJ has many faults but, floating through a game is not one of him. He does stuff. He makes plays. He impacts the game and that is what Self is referencing when he says we miss KJ.



  • @benshawks08 Nailed it

    Roster construction and philosophy

    As I’ve said Bill hates the ball sticking yet his entire career he throws it inside and all movement stops as a big goes 1 vs 1. If the other team doubles that creates movement EXCEPT these two years because defenses recover quicker when they don’t have to guard juan or kj

    They can double and recover with no issues

    Bill would rather have Hunter, KJ, Juan over Mark Sears, Cliff and Nelson at Bama….or Graham Ike up at Zags - he’d been a great get

    Hunters stats blow Cliff out of the water yet I’d take Cliff defensively by a mile and running coast to coast for lob dunks. He can develop 1-2 post moves if needed.

    I prefer 4 guards around 1 big ala us in 2022 or Baylor….Bill still prefers 2 bigs with neither being legitimate shooters - I can’t fathom building a team like that today and expecting to “make them play worse” as the best way to build and win ball games



  • @kuballin10 I’m not sure he prefers this rather than thinks that’s the best he can do with what he has right now. He tried to get guards but if you are watching AJ play and thinking he needs to be playing more, I’m not sure we are watching the same games. I believe the goal was for a reduced role for KJ this year. I really do. But he flat OUT PLAYS the only guys who could replace him at that spot. And we ALL thought AJ and Griffen would show they are better players than KJ by this point, but they just flat haven’t. I’m sure Self never even CONSIDERED Flory at the 4 when he started the season, but he is determined to put the 5 best players on the floor and according to his evaluations (which do heavily weight effort, defense, and activity), Store and Rylan aren’t among those top 5 or even top 8 in AJ’s case.



  • @BShark I don’t mind Storr taking shots from players if he is getting to the rim and getting fouled. We are missing someone who can do that consistently. Juan/Zeke can drive somewhat but rely on floaters most of the time and do not draw fouls.



  • @BShark But we did recruit Ingram and Nelson. As far as I know Self’s philosophy is never to promise minutes to anyone. Maybe that philosophy hurt us with Nelson and Ingram, but I think the fact that Self recruited Nelson and Ingram shows that he is not too stubborn to recruit others to play the same position as KJ.



  • @benshawks08 “there is a reason Hunter has averaged a double double his entire career and never won any game of significance.” I want to note Hunter has gone to the E8 with Michigan and won the B10 regular season that year. Not a world beating achievement, but I think it qualifies as wins with some significance.

    Not that I disagree with the spirit of your assessment, but just don’t want to see the hate go too far.



  • @BShark said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @Texas-Hawk-10 I’m just saying he’s a volume shooter and we already have two players that demand a high volume of shots. Basically there are only so many shots to go around so who would we want Storr taking them from. He is one of the least efficient options on the team.

    Of course the biggest problem with Storr is his defense and he was a big part of a bad kstate offense scoring a lot of points.

    This is why I keep saying there’s a trade offer with whatever line up Self outs out there. Personally, I’m fine with not playing Storr much because he’s an overall net negative.

    But, if Self wants to maximize offense, then Coit, Mayo, Griffen, Storr, and Dickinson is that line up, but it’s also a line up that can’t stop anybody. I’ve been saying since the summer that this was an extremely flawed roster and was given grief over it by many here. There’s not a magic formula line up to fix KU’s issues.

    My personal thoughts on what Self should focus on is his best defensive line ups because that will give KU their best chances against better teams. This team doesn’t have anyone who will be in the NBA next season so there is an overall lack of talent right now. A line up of Harris, Moore, Mayo, Flory, and Hunter is KU’s best chance at stopping other teams. Swap KJ for Hunter once KJ is ready to return and that is a very salty defensive line up. Playing games in the 50’s and low 60’s is KU’s best chance at winning.



  • @Jhawk69 we stopped recruiting both. Ingram’s visit was delayed and eventually cancelled iirc

    As far as Grant Nelson I have a friend in an NBA front office (I know this sounds lame lol) and he said that Grant said in their pre draft interview that he would have came to Kansas if we would have taken him.



  • @BShark Thanks for the scoop. If it is true that Bill stopped recruiting Nelson and opted to bring back Zach Clemmence instead, that is indeed a mistake.

    But it still doesn’t prove a long-standing pattern of Bill being stubborn about whom he plays.



  • We could have had Knecht over Timberlake as well which I think I have mentioned before.



  • @Jhawk69 said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @BShark Thanks for the scoop. If it is true that Bill stopped recruiting Nelson and opted to bring back Zach Clemmence instead, that is indeed a mistake.

    But it still doesn’t prove a long-standing pattern of Bill being stubborn about whom he plays.

    I do not know the reasoning/details from KU’s end tbh



  • @BShark If true (which I am skeptical of) it was a mistake too but hindsight is 20/20. Nobody expected Knecht to be so good and Timberlake to be so bad.



  • @Jhawk69 said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @BShark If true (which I am skeptical of) it was a mistake too but hindsight is 20/20. Nobody expected Knecht to be so good and Timberlake to be so bad.

    Yes, recruiting misses happen all the time. It’s not supposed to be an indictment. UNC and UConn were recruiting Timberlake as well. Also there is the fact that they had Timberlake basically wrapped up while Knecht’s recruitment was in the earlier stages. My information here is hindsight from the same NBA guy but Knecht said he wanted to go to Kansas. He didn’t get much NIL from Tennessee, apparently.



  • @BShark said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @Jhawk69 we stopped recruiting both. Ingram’s visit was delayed and eventually cancelled iirc

    As far as Grant Nelson I have a friend in an NBA front office (I know this sounds lame lol) and he said that Grant said in their pre draft interview that he would have came to Kansas if we would have taken him.

    Nelson is not a good 3 point shooter so I don’t think he would’ve improved KU’s offense all that much. He was also a fairly late commit in the portal (June) and for KU, I believe it was basically Dickinson or Nelson at that point.



  • @BShark said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @Jhawk69 said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @BShark If true (which I am skeptical of) it was a mistake too but hindsight is 20/20. Nobody expected Knecht to be so good and Timberlake to be so bad.

    Yes, recruiting misses happen all the time. It’s not supposed to be an indictment. UNC and UConn were recruiting Timberlake as well. Also there is the fact that they had Timberlake basically wrapped up while Knecht’s recruitment was in the earlier stages. My information here is hindsight from the same NBA guy but Knecht said he wanted to go to Kansas. He didn’t get much NIL from Tennessee, apparently.

    Timberlake and Knecht committed two days apart so I don’t believe their recruiting timelines were that different. Timberlake was also someone I was always skeptical would be able to transition to high level P5 ball. I don’t remember if I had any thoughts on Knecht at the time because I don’t remember his name being connected to KU in 2023. I don’t think anybody really anticipated what he did last season, but I do remember liking him as a player and would’ve take him over Timberlake at the time. I’m guessing Timberlake being a 6th year player was probably a big factor in why he was being looked at by schools like KU.



  • @Jhawk69 said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @BShark Thanks for the scoop. If it is true that Bill stopped recruiting Nelson and opted to bring back Zach Clemmence instead, that is indeed a mistake.

    But it still doesn’t prove a long-standing pattern of Bill being stubborn about whom he plays.

    It wasn’t Zach Clemence that Bill picked over Nelson it was KJ. Same with Ingram….i don’t think you quite understand how it works based on a lot of these posts

    His stubbornness is proven by his undeniable commitment to “his guys”. Nelson would have came here but players sit down when they visit to discuss over the phone their fit and the current roster.

    Bill has never recruited over or to replace kj or juan. It has never been an open competition and everyone (recruits, their families and other programs) knows it.

    Bama says to Nelson - you are our starting 4 man cool?

    Bill says to Nelson - Well KU is going to be our starting 4 but you can come in and compete for minutes. How’s that sound?



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 He can stretch the floor and knock down the three. His % have dropped but he’s averaging 12 & 8 at Bama and would be a massive upgrade for us at that spot

    And go figure he wanted to come her but Bill’s loyalty to kj was to the detriment of the program



  • @BShark

    Defense is definitely a concern for Storr but his fit in this scheme on offense looks even more concerning. Team play is a must in Self’s system and that’s just not something we see a lot from him when he is in the game



  • @kuballin10 Even if we assume that is true, one example in 20 years does not establish a pattern of stubbornness.



  • @MR11 said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @benshawks08 “there is a reason Hunter has averaged a double double his entire career and never won any game of significance.” I want to note Hunter has gone to the E8 with Michigan and won the B10 regular season that year. Not a world beating achievement, but I think it qualifies as wins with some significance.

    Not that I disagree with the spirit of your assessment, but just don’t want to see the hate go too far.

    Both right? Yes, Michigan had a good team his freshman year - only lost 5 games (abbreviated schedule) and went to the E8. But the next two years, when he put up bigger numbers, they lost 15 and 16 games. Sweet 16 one year and NIT the other. Think it is fair to say at this point given the last 3-1/2 years that Dickinson is a solid, mostly consistent, scorer and rebounder, but hard to say that he makes the team and players around him better…And most of his stats are down across the board this year.



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 KU chose not to really pursue Knecht, correct.



  • @BShark said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @Texas-Hawk-10 KU chose not to really pursue Knecht, correct.

    That’d be a @FarmerJayhawk question. Unless KU is recruiting a kid from the Houston area, I’m not well connected into recruiting anymore.

    That said, I don’t recall ever hearing or seeing anything about KU looking at Knecht two years ago. KU is one of the premier programs out there and I’d imagine that a lot of transfers are going to listen when KU calls.



  • @DCHawker Thank you….connecting the dots for some can be difficult

    I mean if you look at box scores and stats he’s amazing but when you watch him play….yikes



  • @Jhawk69 Lol yup that’s once in 20 years no chance it ever happened again (geez some people see ignorant)

    It happened plenty of times but it is more what Bill values philosophically for choosing players versus constructing a roster how a lot of others do in 2025

    He’s definitely shown loyalty to guys who had no business getting the minutes they did and that’s to his own detriment in not having 4-5 titles with the rosters he’s had



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @BShark said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    @Texas-Hawk-10 KU chose not to really pursue Knecht, correct.

    That’d be a @FarmerJayhawk question. Unless KU is recruiting a kid from the Houston area, I’m not well connected into recruiting anymore.

    That said, I don’t recall ever hearing or seeing anything about KU looking at Knecht two years ago. KU is one of the premier programs out there and I’d imagine that a lot of transfers are going to listen when KU calls.

    Yeah, he was such a bad defender on a really bad Northern Colorado team and there were concerns about his athleticism. Hindsight is 20/20 but he didn’t have that impressive an offer list



  • Mercy sure was nice to see some life with this team last night. Sure was really nice to see contribution from a lot of different players for a change , not just Dickinson & Mayo

    A couple of things that I’m sure others are thinking about # one did we see the emergence of AJ last night ?- -Give the guy major props , looked a lot better, his best showing of the Season by far , the question now becomes can he- -will he roll it back ? If we can get Aj to continue to play this way he just brings a whole new dimension to this team - -He makes us a whole different team and raises our level a lot more. We saw some things last night from him that had been buried , three steals - -some rebounds- -and just more locked into the game period. - I guess we will find out Saturday when Houston comes in – they bring a whole different level , my gut says I think AJ will show that’s for sure. Can’t be 100 % sure but I think he might of found that elusive light switch and it’s now come on.

    The second thing is and I think it’s just as big as AJ and his on going deal, I think this is just as big and that is- -How do you keep Flory from being a starter along with Hunter ? -We now for sure have a true Dilemma with KJ and the four.-- I’m pretty sure I’m not alone on this and was watching the KU pod cast- -ain’t no seats this morning and the thing is - -We all love KJ , the guy just gives 100 all the time, but Flory just brings some things that can’t be ignored,

    Like was said Flory is more athletic , fluid he adds a legit rim protector and even raw Flory on the offensive end can get two three rebounds - -keeping the ball alive on almost evert trip down even though there is still some spacing issues when he is on, they think they might of figured some things out and that is, like when Hunters man goes out on the perimeter your saw some and probably will more Flory picks the guy out top up and Hunter stays in the lane down deep - -Flory is good enough to be able to defend outside , Hunter doesn’t get exposed as much. - -Flory is helping Hunters game - -Flory is actually getting to the point where he can bring more offensively to the game for KU then KJ.-- KJ is basically limited to around to that little five foot floater

    I’m afraid as much as I like Coach and again others saying the same thing I’m afraid when KJ comes back we will be going right back to the same rotation KJ be playing his 30 minutes. - - -Again KJ is great, gives you everything but just limited --just can’t see how you keep Flory out and getting more minutes.

    They were talking and saying they think you roll with Harris - - Mayo - - -Flory - - Dickinson and then just roll with whoever, insert AJ into that last spot or like they said whoever is on that night go with them- - mercy what we gonna do. All I know is if this is the true AJ then - -we got’s to go - -roll with him thats it - -whole different level



  • @SlimShaddy54 Flory does truly make Hunter more effective from rebounding and getting better shots. Flory draws interest from the centers and also from the dribble drivers. Now Hunter is free to move around for position to shoot and rebound from. Also Flory stayed out of foul trouble. Flory is improving as we hoped he would and he brings real talent with him. He can cover anywhere in the paint in a flash and now he is getting his shots off. I think he is more talented than we thought he was.



  • 350 DI teams roughly and Duke, Nova, UNC, UConn and Florida have finished the season at least twice as the top team in the land since Bill Self arrived in Lawrence. We’re a club of 6. Gonzaga, UCLA, MSU, Kentucky, Louisville, and other high level programs and their fans look at us with some envy. This is my best defense of Bill Self as I’m really not a big X’s and O’s guy like so many of you are.

    While he was still getting his footing in Lawrence and lost two first round games in a row, he has won the first round of the dance every year since. Thus by logic he has been eliminated by a team good enough to be playing in the sweet 16 every year since 2006. He’s been eliminated by a team that played in the FF 10 times. This is his 21st season. More than half of the tournaments he’s played in that he didn’t win he’s been eliminated by a FF team.

    While it’s frustrating to watch when the end comes, I’m content with how this team has performed with Bill Self. Yes, I’m a little jealous of the success of a UCONN, that’s it. I wouldn’t trade spots with any other program. Even then, the aura and national prominence of KU is elite. I’m looking forward to see how this season ends. And when/if it ends in disappointment I’ll think back to 88, 08, and 22 and the still lasting great feeling that each of those years brought.



  • @wissox Well said. Hard to argue too much with that kind of success. And anyways, who would we want to replace him with?



  • We will get worse at head coach when Bill retires. That’s just a fact.



  • @BShark said in Mythbusters: Bill Self, minutes, and March:

    We will get worse at head coach when Bill retires. That’s just a fact.

    No I’m a good coach.



  • @KirkIsMyHinrich it was foretold that a hero would emerge from the darkness.



  • @approxinfinity And that hero is FarmerJayhawk as my assistant, with me taking all the credit.



  • These are some downright weird to delusional examples you’ve got here. It seems a bit like a strange confirmation bias where you’re trying to meet a conclusion by Frankensteining some odd examples together. Let’s start from the beginning.

    Darnell Jackson vs. Cole Aldrich - Jackson averaged 11.2 points and 6.7 rebounds a game in 2008. He was downright good. He was the fourth leading scorer on the team, led the team in rebounds, and had the second highest win share on the team. I don’t remember anyone saying Aldrich should be playing over him. You might as well have said Darrell Arthur lol.

    Christian Braun vs. Isiah Moss and Marcus Garrett - That team was flat out dominant on defense, but kind of struggled to score. What was nice about that team, however, was that Udoka and Devon could give us 40 a night. What was nice about Marcus Garrett was that he was a bit like KJ Adams this year. He was one of the best defenders we’ve probably ever had at KU, but could hit an occasional three, and score here and there. Something KJ can’t do. Self could say to Marcus Garrett, ‘hey, go out there and guard your butt off and give me a few points and rebounds here and there.’ And it worked great! He averaged 9.2 and 4.5. As a guard! That’s what we were looking for. Christian Braun was a nice little piece of that team, but I don’t remember anyone saying he should be playing over Garrett or Moss. He was a freshman. He was shaky. If he could hit a 3 once in a while, icing on the cake. If you remember right, it was Self oddly sticking with a starting lineup that included David McCormack playing alongside Udoka that was the odd choice. After Dave got suspended for the K State fight, Self couldn’t play them alongside each other. He started Moss instead and the rest is history. He stuck with Moss in the starting lineup for the rest of the year. KU took off.

    Tyrel Reed vs. Josh Selby - Again, another one I flat out don’t remember anyone clamoring for. Tyrel Reed was good. He averaged nearly 10 points a game, shot 38 percent from 3. He was a fine defender. I don’t remember anyone saying that Selby should’ve been playing over him. Like you said, Selby never really got going. Idk that there was a solution on that bench. I could understand if the debate was about Brady Morningstar, but again, I don’t think Selby was a solution to that.

    Travis Releford vs. Andrew White - This one’s downright delusional. Travis Releford was a 5th year senior. He was one of the best defenders on the team (not named Jeff Withey), who often drew the toughest assignment. He averaged 12 points and 4 rebounds per game. White was a freshman who was never going to seriously crack the rotation. And again, I don’t remember anyone saying he should.

    I mean it goes on and on. Josh Jackson averaged over 16 points a game. He was hands down the best OAD we’ve ever had, and he played hard. He wasn’t a knucklehead (at least not on the court). I don’t think Self ever really liked Vick anyways, but it was pretty evident Josh was the better option, he was the fourth overall pick for a reason. Not to mention he was a lot bigger than Vick and I don’t think it’s a good 1:1 comparison.

    Udoka over Lucas. Ya, Self will play a guy over an inferior player when it’s abundantly clear. It’s when it’s a bit more abstract or when the goal is a bit more long-term that Self doesn’t do a great job. Udoka will have his jersey retired one day, was drafted in the first round, and played in the NBA while Landen Lucas…is also a professional! A professional poker player.

    There’s definitely more to pick apart. You say Dajuan didn’t start his freshman season. That’s true…but he also averaged 30 mpg because he had to play. Garrett wasn’t ever going to work at the PG and self started playing Dajuan more and more as the season went on. That’s not really all that relevant to the argument here, but like talking to my parents…if we can’t even agree on the basic facts, how are we going to have a conversation on the merits of a given issue.

    Just a weird, weird argument. God I miss @HighEliteMajor



  • @approxinfinity Yes Sir- - here I am , no need to thank me just a bow will work lol



  • @MoonwalkMafia Dude fell off the face of the earth in what 2018/2019? His last post here was then and I randomly check his Twitter and nothing since the same timeframe.

    Probably some smart college kid who attended KU and maybe graduated. Now has kids and a fam so doesn’t have time for his deep dive analysis anymore.

    Still wish he’d pop in and post general thoughts



  • Conspiracy theories that Jaybate and HEM are two personalities of a fragmented soul…. Go!



  • If Juan, who had a bad game by getting beat by his man a couple of times and the couple of threes rattled around but didn’t drop and did his passing hurt the team and he had 7 dimes. Shak Moore can run the point but he will also throw it away and get beat on defense. He gives us an extra bit of pop from a scoring stand point. Is he a better defender than Juan yes he is good and should he and Juan share playing time? Yes and Juan needs to sit and rest about half the time or less. Juan is not a 2 or 3 guard or is he? Our best three defenders are KJ, Flory and Shak. Flory makes Hunter better and Shak and Zeke will drive it. Zeke has a nice floater but I’m not sure about Shak’s mid range. I can’t believe i’m saying it but Shak, Zeke, AJ, Flory and Hunter should play together a lot of game minutes. Shak’s ability to run the offense for a full half is mostly unknown but defenses will not shrug off him because he will pull the trigger. Flory shoots about 80% FG. Where he traveled earlier in the season he has learned to one bounce away from defenders and can dunk or flip it in. He is being coached well by someone and he seems to be a quick study. Not getting airborne on fakes and he can alter or block you seemingly by instinct. Fran said Flory was gassed one time in the game from playing a lot of minutes. That’s two things Fran got right last evening. What do we do with KJ? Bring him off the bench as a defensive stopper on guards. When will Zach be back? If AJ and Rylan are making us a dangerous team then we are only thin in the lane.



  • @Zabudda

    Something seemed off with harris. Asked in game thread if he was sick or something. Just seemed a bit off, the 5 turnovers especially early in the game ones were disappointing. Hopefully he’s alright



  • @BeddieKU23 I had that same thought and I hope so too.


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