Basketball Season



  • Well things noticed & thought about. # 1 - -w had heard and already knew that our defense sucks and we are going to have to out score people. # 2 all I got to say to Coach Self is - - - - -GOOD LUCK with Storr, he is really going o wear on Self , the kid doesn’t give two flips about trying to defend, seems like he wants to be a black hole on offense , something going to have to give before w get into the Season. I got tired of hearing we had three of our players out – -Guess what Arkansas had multiple players out too , quit making excuses. Hunter would of been the perfect fit - -would of fit right in with the rest of our horrible defense. -Sorr is going to be a Challenge.

    Flory & Passmore look like when it’s all said and done are going to be very good players for us- -and then if we are going to have to depend on Juan leading us in our three point shooting-- -we are in for a long Season.

    Heard on a KU podcast the other day, if you had the option which would you rather have- – Juan with more of a big breakout year - -be a bigger scoring PG , more aggressive - -OR better defensively and turning the ball over less. -I think you want him turning the ball over less, He is gonna have more Scorers around him this year and should be able to distribute the ball better and better defense. If we think it’s gonna be the same as last yr , I think your wrong.- -This was an exhibition and give Mayo & Diggy time to adjust , they are going to be fine-- Then we have Griffen who was out – I think k Mayo will settle down & adjust- - the only problem is going to be Storr and dealing with his outlook & Attitude. Like they mentioned on the Podcaast - - Storr is going to have to acept that the offens is going to revolve around Hunter plain and simple



  • Ok, some Day After perspective, after many deep breaths!!

    On the surface we looked like shit all around. Hard to argue otherwise to the naked eye.

    But digging a bit deeper statistically, we lost this game at the free throw line. KU was 4-10. The Hogs were 23-28.

    We lost the game by 16 points. They outscored us by 19 from the line.

    Also, in total, KU made ONE more field goal, and ONE more 3pt shot than Arkansas. That alone should mean a win.

    I guess playing piss poor, matador defense contributed mightily to the FT disparity and final score.

    So we didn’t pass the eyeball test, but the game could have been less of a blowout had we played anything resembling defense?



  • @BeddieKU23 I am surprised about Zack because Self had praised him immensely during offseason, not sure what was that all about.



  • @AsadZ said in Basketball Season:

    @BeddieKU23 I am surprised about Zack because Self had praised him immensely during offseason, not sure what was that all about.

    Bill lying in the offseason, classic.



  • I didn’t watch Zack closely enough, but i thought he had active hands but made a few bad decisions, and saw one jankerific baseline pull up. Feels like if he isnt P4 its between the ears. Maybe what Self sees in practice didnt translate in gametime.



  • @approxinfinity Juan did what he did last year against Duke and then never showed up again with scoring like that

    He also did it in the second half when the game was already out of reach

    Got absolutely abused defensively the entire game and no clue how the box score didn’t have him turning it over 5 times (somehow 2).

    He never starts the game and keeps us close he relies on everyone else to carry him

    Bill legitimately is staring another second round loss in the face with his favorite 1 and 4 of all time. He has no concept of team building with regards to today’s game and what he values in players isn’t the most important traits in translation to winning it all

    After we get bounced this year he will retire with 5/6 second round loss

    His systems are outdated and the fact guys can’t shuffle in and out smoothly and he constantly neuters great players (remy and now storr….and it would have been Spencer last year had we got him - he’d somehow not defended well enough or whatever. Spencer or any player would have a better year at uconn vs ku)….causing them to play hesitant and slow

    He doesn’t teach guys to attack but throws so much at them they can’t just read and react but rather “think too much” - his own words.

    He owes Remy a ton otherwise he’s a 1 hit wonder

    I mean people praise how great we are based on big 12 consistency. Nah that’s homer glasses. Big 12 constantly underperforms in the tourney. We finally added legit basketball competition and watch where we finish these last two years.

    The big 12 consecutive titles is nice but fans starting to see it was a facade and made sense based on our ncaa accomplishments. Propt us up with 1 seeds when in reality we didn’t deserve them and got bounced.





  • @kuballin10 said in Basketball Season:

    @approxinfinity Juan did what he did last year against Duke and then never showed up again with scoring like that

    He also did it in the second half when the game was already out of reach

    Got absolutely abused defensively the entire game and no clue how the box score didn’t have him turning it over 5 times (somehow 2).

    He never starts the game and keeps us close he relies on everyone else to carry him

    Bill legitimately is staring another second round loss in the face with his favorite 1 and 4 of all time. He has no concept of team building with regards to today’s game and what he values in players isn’t the most important traits in translation to winning it all

    After we get bounced this year he will retire with 5/6 second round loss

    His systems are outdated and the fact guys can’t shuffle in and out smoothly and he constantly neuters great players (remy and now storr….and it would have been Spencer last year had we got him - he’d somehow not defended well enough or whatever. Spencer or any player would have a better year at uconn vs ku)….causing them to play hesitant and slow

    He doesn’t teach guys to attack but throws so much at them they can’t just read and react but rather “think too much” - his own words.

    He owes Remy a ton otherwise he’s a 1 hit wonder

    I mean people praise how great we are based on big 12 consistency. Nah that’s homer glasses. Big 12 constantly underperforms in the tourney. We finally added legit basketball competition and watch where we finish these last two years.

    The big 12 consecutive titles is nice but fans starting to see it was a facade and made sense based on our ncaa accomplishments. Propt us up with 1 seeds when in reality we didn’t deserve them and got bounced.

    Self isn’t screwing Storr up - - Storr is screwing up himself- -Storr not only doesn’t he DEFEND well enough he doesn’t defend at all. Coach knew that right off Self has nothing to do with that and until he learns then he isn’t going to be a big part, what he is is as huge black hole Until he becomes more of a team player instead of a black hole- - -me , me , me it’s gonna be ugly for him.= - - You must have one huge hard on for Juan yet it’s kinda old - -you need to find something /anything to wine about, dam dude anything if your so un happy with Self and Juan you might need to find you a new hobby OR A NEW TEAM TO SNIFFLE ABOUT - -maybe you could PICK UP KNITTING S A new hobby& a fresh glass of milk



  • @jayballer67 Honest question: did you watch the game or just check the box score?

    If you watched the game what did you think of their guards vs ours especially Wagner/bland versus our 6th year senior?

    Bill loves a guard who can control the entire game. He somehow thinks Harris is some tyus jones clone and it’s comical how off he is on this.

    The 6-7th best pg just in the big 12 let alone the entire country struggles to lead us against athletic guard heavy teams



  • @kuballin10 said in Basketball Season:

    @jayballer67 Honest question: did you watch the game or just check the box score?

    If you watched the game what did you think of their guards vs ours especially Wagner/bland versus our 6th year senior?

    Bill loves a guard who can control the entire game. He somehow thinks Harris is some tyus jones clone and it’s comical how off he is on this.

    The 6-7th best pg just in the big 12 let alone the entire country struggles to lead us against athletic guard heavy teams

    @kuballin10 said in Basketball Season:

    @jayballer67 Honest question: did you watch the game or just check the box score?

    If you watched the game what did you think of their guards vs ours especially Wagner/bland versus our 6th year senior?

    Bill loves a guard who can control the entire game. He somehow thinks Harris is some tyus jones clone and it’s comical how off he is on this.

    The 6-7th best pg just in the big 12 let alone the entire country struggles to lead us against athletic guard heavy teams

    Dude I’ve probably watched more Ku games then you have had wet dreams. No Einstein I didn’t watch a second lmao. Hell ya I watched, does Juan has flaws ? - -Hell yes Juan has flaws, name me a single player on this team that doesn’t If Juan is as bad of a Guard as you make him out to be then tell me this riddler Why the hell then do SO MANY past College coach’s - -Current College Coch’s , former players that now analyze teams and players Plus others that follow and work around teams all talk about how solid Juan is and when before the Season starts out why is it that people who get paid for this all talk about Juan being a vital returning player for the Season ? I have a tendency to listen to them someone who actually knows what the hell they are talking about then some broken down guy that sits in a recliner and talks shit about players and never thinks he would lose a game IF he Coached the team.

    Your a typical troll who comes on sites and talks shit about someone because you don’t have a team - -or your own fans have blocked you on their sites your truly a joke you know half about what YOU THINK YOU KNOW but still hope you have a great day - - Hell every one of our players got blown by when playing defense - - well we actually didn’t play any defense so that doesn’t apply. What did w say ? - -This is going to be one of our worst defensive teams, and other posters talking about combinations of players on the floor and how we couldn’t put them on the floor-- this team right now hsa no defense - -it’s not only Juan their BUB



  • @jayballer67 during the scrimmage against Arky the announcers called Harris the best point guard in college ball. I’m not sure I 100% agree with that, but he’s definitely solid. We’ll miss him next season, but someone will figure it out and off the team goes again.



  • That scrimmage restored my PTSD from last year… we start off totally over-ranked at #1, we have no perimeter shooting, we don’t have enough athleticism (at least, not against Cal), but even worse this year is we have no McCullar on defense. We are going to have to average 80+ points to have a good record this year.

    I know it’s even before being early… I said what I said because of my PTSD.

    I’m just putting my trust in Self to turn these guys into a competitive team. Isn’t it the fact that we have Self the reason why we get over-ranked early in the year?



  • JUAN RECALL:

    Here is my take on Juan. At times, he looked horrible in this scrimmage and was played by a freshman, who ate his lunch. Yes… we saw what we saw. So here it comes… all the Juan naysayers.

    Juan is not an NBA prospect. Never will be. But he is typically a solid defender and solid point guard. His first job is to be the mechanism for bringing Self’s game out on the floor. We all know, if Self isn’t happy, it is going to show because he’s screaming at someone, making faces and turning bright red himself, and benching someone. He usually doesn’t lose his cool with Juan because Juan is accomplishing his #1 priority.

    Here is the Juan everyone wanted… he put up 26 points, and no two other players together matched his total. He is Juan thinking about getting his own points. How do we like that? In this case, he had to score because we had NOWHERE else to go for points! #1 team in the country, no alpha scorers.

    Juan is a PG built perfect for a team with 4 other players with offensive skills. When he’s on that team, he will only average around 6 PPG but everyone else will score big. When we have a team like the team we had in the scrimmage, Juan is also lost in space because no one is teaming with him to score.

    Actually, I feel a little better about Juan after this scrimmage. Clearly, he has add a bit more physicality to his frame. And it showed up on his own personal offense. I think we will see Juan scoring more this year, I just hope it isn’t because he has to (but I fear this).

    The guy I’m more concerned with is KJ. I appreciate his natural athleticism. I had hoped he would develop into a real offensive savant but I’m not seeing it in this game. Some guys develop where they just explode in a year, and I thought we would get that out of KJ but I don’t think so now. A big part of his production should be rebounding. I’ve said this on here every since KJ came to Kansas. Someone needs to sit him in a chair and have him watch Charles Barkley rebound until he gets it. He should be the next Barkley. He should have a personal trainer who knows how to teach this skill because he still doesn’t get it. And from the 10+ rebounds he should easily snatch every game, he should be adding at least 6+ points off his rebounds.

    I know I’m in a PTSD moment here… I see we have more depth… will it even be enough to replace McCullar? Who is going to start playing defense? Defense requires hustle, but it also requires skills. Anyone on our staff capable of teaching defense? I’m not just talking about team defense. I’m talking about (what I always talk about) teaching players how to hedge, etc.



  • @drgnslayr yeah we don’t have McCullar on defense, but he really didn’t play healthy outside of the first half of the season (and we looked pretty good when he did).

    My PTSD from last season is watching games at the end of the season when he didn’t play. It would be nice for the newcomers to get near McCullar’s level of defense, but we really just need them to be better than Timberlake/Furphy.



  • @dylans said in Basketball Season:

    @jayballer67 during the scrimmage against Arky the announcers called Harris the best point guard in college ball. I’m not sure I 100% agree with that, but he’s definitely solid. We’ll miss him next season, but someone will figure it out and off the team goes again.

    I agree with you on that totally bud, Juan IS NOT the best by a stretch, but like said very solid -we be all right, agree



  • @drgnslayr I agree with everything you said here. This team isnt going anywhere if Storr and Rylan dont figure it out. But thats on them.



  • @approxinfinity said in Basketball Season:

    @drgnslayr I agree with everything you said here. This team isnt going anywhere if Storr and Rylan dont figure it out. But thats on them.

    Just think Sorr is going to be an issue , gonna be a war between him & Hunter who is or thinks suppose to lead this team. Heard from previous fans that Storr is a Black hle - -15-17 shots per he wants to get his shots - -forced or un forced- -shooting at best time - or not the best - -dunno.



  • The takeaways here should be simple:

    -Mayo, Coit, and Storr are bad

    -The freshmen look like good pieces for the future

    That’s it.



  • Those comments on Storr aren’t the end of the world, everyone knew that him taking bad shots and playing bad defense wasn’t going to improve the team. This confirms that Self is trying to improve his decision making and holding him accountable. Now its a toss up whether that will work or not, but is better to try and fully actualize his talent.



  • Not convinced that any of the transfers are bad. Definitely a work in progress. None of them are complete.



  • I wouldn’t be entirely critical of Storr just yet.

    He didn’t get a ton of minutes. Maybe that was Self jabbing at him a bit, trying to get him to play in his style.

    But, he did seem a bit more motivated toward the end of the game. He showed some flashes. More of that!

    I think we all will be frustrated with the defense this year. It will not be great from what we’ve read and watched. Maybe one of those Roy Williams years where it’s a free for all. Except Hunter can’t run!



  • I just want the offense to look better than it did. Dajuan was the only guy scoring! Thats crazy.



  • @approxinfinity said in Basketball Season:

    I just want the offense to look better than it did. Dajuan was the only guy scoring! Thats crazy.

    Yep. Total weirdness with Juan scoring.

    I’m just gonna assume we had no offensive game plan installed, so he couldn’t set anybody up to score.

    Tuesday will tell us a tiny bit more.



  • Thankfully it’s still October. Hopefully we look a lot better in March.



  • @rockchalkjayhawk said in Basketball Season:

    @approxinfinity said in Basketball Season:

    I just want the offense to look better than it did. Dajuan was the only guy scoring! Thats crazy.

    Yep. Total weirdness with Juan scoring.

    I’m just gonna assume we had no offensive game plan installed, so he couldn’t set anybody up to score.

    Tuesday will tell us a tiny bit more.

    That and missing 3 rotation players (including our best player).



  • We usually don’t start the season playing ranked teams on the road in an exhibition but that’s what’s happened the last two years. In both occasions we did not look good and hopefully that’s not a trend to follow. I can imagine some teams during the conference championship streak looked similar to the other day. I hope so, at least. Tommorow is another day to get better



  • Matt Tait tweets

    Self said he’s got AJ Storr “messed up at the moment” because the newcomer doesn’t quite know yet what be aggressive means for Self and with #KUbball

    Self added that he thinks Storr is still thinking a lot instead of reacting…

    Self on Zeke Mayo: I think we have to get more production out of him than we had the other night & he has to put himself in position to be more aggressive.

    “I think the other day he kind of played cautious.”

    ——- Anyone notice a 20 year trend? Guys come here and play tentatively. Self needs someone to have the cojones to ask him the tough questions on why this is. We aren’t talking some 1-2 year trend this is years of this……



  • @kuballin10 good thing Malik and Remy magically threw off the shackles of Bills voodoo curse when it counted in the tourney huh? Frank and Graham were able to develop from marginal D-1 prospects to first team All Americans in spite of Self. Its a miracle!



  • @approxinfinity Mason not being given the keys killed me for that Wiggins team….

    Literally barely played frankamp which hammers his confidence only to play him against Stanford a ton

    Bill has always struggled with lineups and effectively building everyone up not just “his guys”



  • Frankamp was also just really bad at playing basketball



  • I’d guess I watched more of Storr than anyone here last year. Everything you guys are saying is true. He’s an enigma, but I’m not going to let one exhibition game where we were missing guys say he’s a bust. He starred in a game knocking off Purdue last year, you know 2nd best team in the country. He can play with the big boys. I also remember it took him a few games to get into the swing with the Badgers. I don’t really watch defense individually. I can’t tell you about defensive lapses except that people complained about it. I never liked his carelessness with the ball and at times became turnover prone.



  • @FarmerJayhawk And yet after playing tharpe all year instead of developing a freshman - Bill was resorted to conner because tharpe was that bad

    Complete coaching blunder and not utilizing the season to develop guys in game



  • To add insult to injury - philon as a frosh looks like a stud

    17 points, 5 rebounds and 7 assists against Memphis tonight

    Starting alongside Sears

    Bill gets to ride with his guys yet again this season to yet another round of 32 or sweet 16 loss

    Crazy to think at a premier D1 school the coach has favorites so much he will never recruit over them (kj and d2)



  • @kuballin10 yeah weird how Tharpe was better than Frank all year and Bill played him. I loved Frank from the jump but he needed time to develop. Props for moving the goalposts through, hope you didn’t strain your shoulder.



  • @wissox

    I think we’ll see better from Storr as we go but he’s definitely in Self’s toughening box right now. I have to ask, why did Self go after Storr if the fit was going to be a work in progress. I can imagine KU spent a pretty penny on his NIL deal and are counting on him to be a major factor for this team. There does seem to be a good bit of risk here but as you mentioned he’s got big game ability in him with proven production.



  • @BeddieKU23 the fit was always weird. A guy who is a ball stopper that doesn’t play D coming to a school that moves the rock and is expected to play D.

    I think he figures it out but it’s kind of Like Malik Newman where it may take some time.

    Always the possibility Griffen knocks him out of the starting lineup as well. And the Storr comes in as a “2nd unit” type of guy and that fits him better.



  • @kuballin10 said in Basketball Season:

    To add insult to injury - philon as a frosh looks like a stud

    17 points, 5 rebounds and 7 assists against Memphis tonight

    Starting alongside Sears

    Bill gets to ride with his guys yet again this season to yet another round of 32 or sweet 16 loss

    Crazy to think at a premier D1 school the coach has favorites so much he will never recruit over them (kj and d2)

    Nobody would have thought the 20-21 team would develop into the ‘22 team. Also the offseason haul of guys this year was pretty insane. A bit early for this take.



  • The Juan D2 thing is the dumbest thing I’ve read on this board



  • @Kcmatt7 said in Basketball Season:

    @BeddieKU23 the fit was always weird. A guy who is a ball stopper that doesn’t play D coming to a school that moves the rock and is expected to play D.

    I think he figures it out but it’s kind of Like Malik Newman where it may take some time.

    Always the possibility Griffen knocks him out of the starting lineup as well. And the Storr comes in as a “2nd unit” type of guy and that fits him better.

    If Storr is a bench player, that’s a miss from all involved. As one of the “premiere players” that entered the portal with proven scoring production in the Big-10, I fail to see how this isn’t a miss if that’s the direction it goes. I’m hopeful for the opposite but it’s not like we have a perfect hit rate with transfers either, just look at last year. If Storr was your top transfer player and you paid a lot for him, you better get your money’s worth in a sense.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he follows a Malik or Remy situation. The end result with both was positive.

    Griffen was IMO the one I had the most confidence in transitioning to a significant role. 3 and D type guy, perhaps spread the floor more playing the 4 if possible next to Hunter. I think he’s a starter and I’d play him over KJ personally but that’s another subject matter…



  • @FarmerJayhawk You and Self don’t get it.

    Yes, in October and November Tharpe was better and could run things having been in the system for more time.

    Come March it was a complete blunder as time beared out he wasn’t good. Had Self played Mason through the mistakes and trials…by March we’d been a better team.

    Mason was ready just needed a leash

    Labaron is ready just needed a leash and opportunity

    Mahomes was ready year 1 just needed the opportunity

    Coach is very short sighted with development and doesn’t grasp practice vs game performance differences



  • @Kcmatt7 Remy happened

    Big Dave in March happened

    Braun and Ochai became nba wings along with Jalen - which is what carried us. 3 nba level guys on that squad which we don’t have today.

    Bringing up Philon - I don’t need to see anymore. He’s better than Juan and Moore. 6-4 with 6-7 wingspan and a legit nba prospect. Yeah let’s stick with the 7th best pg in the big 12 who can’t stay in front of his man.

    Whether it’s Self, his system or what. Spencer wouldn’t have had as good of a year here as he did uconn and Labaron wouldn’t be performing the way he is here like he is at bama. The reason is because how strict Self is with running his system.

    He killed Storr’s confidence and many many others.

    He needs to balance letting guys come in and play their way aggressively and slowly meld it to fit what he wants so by January it works.

    Instead he tries to break them of every bad habit from the tip and neuters them. This has happened for two decades here with countless players. Wish he’d mature in his thought process.

    If you’ve taught any sport the ability to retain confidence while tweaking the player is crucial. With the portal we don’t have 2-3 seasons to tear a player down and rebuild him

    Self retired after this year or next - book it



  • @BShark sorry mo st level is more accurate

    I know you agree with me on Self letting guys play a bit more and have a leash

    He gives leashes to people who don’t elevate the team but then hammers the guys who could

    Juan is a high floor low ceiling guy - u know what u get

    Storr - complete opposite

    To let guys like Storr ingrain quickly you have to let them play through the crap



  • @BeddieKU23 said in Basketball Season:

    @Kcmatt7 said in Basketball Season:

    @BeddieKU23 the fit was always weird. A guy who is a ball stopper that doesn’t play D coming to a school that moves the rock and is expected to play D.

    I think he figures it out but it’s kind of Like Malik Newman where it may take some time.

    Always the possibility Griffen knocks him out of the starting lineup as well. And the Storr comes in as a “2nd unit” type of guy and that fits him better.

    If Storr is a bench player, that’s a miss from all involved. As one of the “premiere players” that entered the portal with proven scoring production in the Big-10, I fail to see how this isn’t a miss if that’s the direction it goes. I’m hopeful for the opposite but it’s not like we have a perfect hit rate with transfers either, just look at last year. If Storr was your top transfer player and you paid a lot for him, you better get our money’s worth in a sense.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he follows a Malik or Remy situation. The end result with both was positive.

    Griffen was IMO the one I had the most confidence in transitioning to a significant role. 3 and D type guy, perhaps spread the floor more playing the 4 if possible next to Hunter. I think he’s a starter and I’d play him over KJ personally but that’s another subject matter…

    It wouldn’t be a great look that’s for sure. That said I’ve heard it likely won’t go as far south as the Remy situation in part because Storr can not afford for it to. At least Bill acknowledged that he’s screwed him up a bit, hopefully it gets resolved.

    Interestingly Torvik projected around 12ppg for Storr. At first I laughed it off but if the team is balanced I think that largely makes sense. Last year at Wisconsin he had the same kind of volume/load that Kevin did at Kansas, with similar efficiency. So if KU is better and he buys in, he may end up around 10-12 ppg.

    I’m looking forward to seeing Rylan and Shak tonight. Last I had heard we were trending towards Rylan being the primary back-up 4, in addition to other roles.



  • I do get that Philon flipped almost entirely due to geography but don’t let that ruin the narrative



  • I think Self remembers the pieces to winning in 22. A big who you could throw it in to and get a bucket, a point guard who could distribute the ball and initiate offense, hit an open jumper if dared to, and three wings who could shoot, slash, and rebound.

    Those pieces are all possibly there, but will all depend on how they develop and commit to the pieces where they may not be strong. KJ is a bit of an oddball here in that for what it’s worth to me, watching him play is so much fun because of the way he plays. He does have limitations though that impact the overall cohesiveness and effectiveness of the team on both ends. He called the 21 team unathletic and then brought them all back and somehow they played more to their athleticism.

    Defense will be this teams “athleticism.” Can this team learn to guard at the level necessary to win a championship? He’s now had significant pieces of this team get beat on the pick n roll for about 3 straight games dating back to last season, so hopefully he has their attention. Traditionally, Bill has been best at teaching guys to defend. I’ve heard over and over again on this board and others that he just needs to get guys who can shoot/score and then teach them to defend. Welp, we will see if that plan is actually viable.

    Side note: What would @kuballin10 be saying if Juan didn’t score 26 in the Arkansas game? Lol.



  • @kuballin10 said in Basketball Season:

    @Kcmatt7 Remy happened

    Big Dave in March happened

    Braun and Ochai became nba wings along with Jalen - which is what carried us. 3 nba level guys on that squad which we don’t have today.

    Bringing up Philon - I don’t need to see anymore. He’s better than Juan and Moore. 6-4 with 6-7 wingspan and a legit nba prospect. Yeah let’s stick with the 7th best pg in the big 12 who can’t stay in front of his man.

    Whether it’s Self, his system or what. Spencer wouldn’t have had as good of a year here as he did uconn and Labaron wouldn’t be performing the way he is here like he is at bama. The reason is because how strict Self is with running his system.

    He killed Storr’s confidence and many many others.

    He needs to balance letting guys come in and play their way aggressively and slowly meld it to fit what he wants so by January it works.

    Instead he tries to break them of every bad habit from the tip and neuters them. This has happened for two decades here with countless players. Wish he’d mature in his thought process.

    If you’ve taught any sport the ability to retain confidence while tweaking the player is crucial. With the portal we don’t have 2-3 seasons to tear a player down and rebuild him

    Self retired after this year or next - book it

    your fricken nuts. Self isn’t in any way shape or form retiring next Season , if he retires within the next FIVE you will have your Miracle lol



  • @FarmerJayhawk This coming from Labaron himself or what……? Or just KU coaches because ultimately he saw he’d sit behind Juan a lot



  • @jayballer67 this season or next if DP can’t get it done



  • @kuballin10 said in Basketball Season:

    @jayballer67 this season or next if DP can’t get it done

    Man you really eithre to put the pipe down and slowly back away - -or share, got to be some awesome stuff you smokin



  • @benshawks08 Hey Juan scoring 26 and trash talking Arkansas bench down 20 was a sight to behold

    He did score just granted once the game was over and Arkansas let off the gas some

    I’ll reserve judgment for his scoring until we see the full compliment of players against unc. We don’t have nba wings though so he needs to be a threat otherwise he and kj kill all spacing

    I love KJ’s dunks man - just fun to watch and a soft spot for what he’s gone through in life. Self’s stuck with him so the results this season much like last are on coach for his roster decisions

    Your remembering of the 2022 title team was quite a bit different than mine. With that pass first pg we got dominated at home by uk….and would have been bounced yet again in the 2nd round had Remy not saved us vs creighton

    Juan had 2 incredible defensive plays and the lob to get us going the 2nd half and then sat on the bench for the crucial 8 minute stretch

    Juan’s defense that Self thinks is so awesome is due to a minimal sample size against Unc. That’s forever etched in Self’s memory that he can’t see Juan’s lack of lateral movement causes him to not stay in front of his man defensively.

    Where Juan excels is off the ball steal passes and tipping them with his long wingspan. He anticipates at an extremely high level when off the ball.

    On the ball….completely different story which is just natural due to his d2 athleticism


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