Duke Kills Kansas... Kansas Wins Game!
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I’ll never say I’m not biased! lol
But he owned the ref’s ear for an extended time after that flop call. I don’t see Self extending that for too long. Maybe I’m just biased… but I know what helped K get the famous “Duke calls” related to how well and how long he worked the refs.
Actually… it’s a sign of good coaching if it works and Duke has always mastered achieving this!
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@kuballin10 said in Duke Kills Kansas... Kansas Wins Game!:
@BShark any word on it? Hope he’s okay. Maybe take Friday off let Gradey shoot more and mj play
Haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but I noticed he was favoring it.
Dajuan should definitely get a light load against Southern Utah.
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It’s going to take a great team to beat our A game. We showed a lot of poise when the game counted.
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Grady did the Remy. Nice. In the game before this one we had a several minute scoring dead spot and most of the second half. In the Duke game we had dead spells in the middle of both halves. We will see some games later when we will say the team finally played their best game just like late last year when we started to really believe we could go to a Final Four.
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@rockchalkjayhawk Hopefully MJ can help shoulder the scoring load too. (If he can stay on the court)
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I think Gradey needs another season to make his body NBA-ready. I see him checking out the waters so he knows what to work on for next year… just like many of our guys do.
Plus… even though he looks so good now, we don’t know how this year is going to go for him yet. He could have a pesky injury slowing him down, or go in a bad slump. I’m skeptical he will have too big of a slump because his mechanics are the best I’ve ever seen in D1!
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Another year would be great for him and us fans but I don’t expect it right now.
One thing I’ve seen the media running with from the game and in general is that he isn’t a good defender. I’d have to watch the Duke game over to see if he struggled but I don’t recall him being an issue on that end. It’s something that could be used as a talking point/weakness for scouts with him.
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@tundrahok said in Duke Kills Kansas... Kansas Wins Game!:
Jon Scheyer is less schmarmy and self-satisfied than K. At least so far. He has a long way to go before he even approaches the same level of unlikability. Maybe do something first, as a head coach. Earn our emnity. Until then, meh.
Ha. Well said!
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@BeddieKU23 one thing ive noticed so far, to a seemingly anomolous degree, Gradey seems to always be in the right place for good things to happen on D. Several won possessions where people threw the ball right where he had moved to. Maybe his on ball D isnt elite but his defensive awareness seems uncanny, in this small sample size. It also helps to be the 4th defender sharing the court with Adams, Dajuan and Mccullar
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The draft will be stocked high this year… best to give him another year to build his brand. He’ll do good with NIL this year anyways.
I’m sure he could use some strengthening… and hopefully that won’t negatively impact his shot. Doubtful.
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Think it’s his high BBIQ that puts him in the right spots & I’ve noticed some really good instincts from him so far defensively. Norm said he got tired in the Duke game (played 32 minutes). We can quickly forget this was only his 3rd game and he’s a freshman. I see some really unnecessary criticism about his defense this early from the media.
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I think Gradey is back next year Mj maybe or he might transfer
Clemence, Joe and Cuffe will be gone
We got too many guards:
Juan - Bobby
Johnson - Elmarko
Gradey - MJ, McDowell
Bigs: kj, Ernest, Zuby
I think we get a transfer 4 or 5 to step in right away.
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@kuballin10 said in Duke Kills Kansas... Kansas Wins Game!:
I think Gradey is back next year Mj maybe or he might transfer
Clemence, Joe and Cuffe will be gone
We got too many guards:
Juan - Bobby
Johnson - Elmarko
Gradey - MJ, McDowell
Bigs: kj, Ernest, Zuby
I think we get a transfer 4 or 5 to step in right away.
No I don’t see Grady back at all , he MIGHT need to but would almost bet the farm like other have said enjoy him while he is here cause chances better then not he is gone after this year , unless just falls flat on his face - - -don’t see that happening, especially they all ready projecting him as the 16th pick
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I think we have to prepare (as fans) for Gradey leaving after a year. It’s been a while since we had one (Josh Jackson was the last) so KU hasn’t had this situation in a bit, especially in the NIL era.
I think NIL has a bigger impact with fringe NBA guys. Look at all the Big Men across the country that came back to school (example Big-10). Oscar T at Kentucky became only the 3rd POY to return to school in the last 40 years and NIL was the reason why. Gradey isn’t a fringe NBA guy right now. The 16th pick in the 2022 draft was worth 2.9 million a year, a figure that NIL couldn’t possibly match. We’ll see what happens, long ways to go.
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@jayballer67 I think a few things factor in:
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he’s a KS kid that’s always wanted to play at KU I think more so than the nba
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NIL will help he is already in a great commercial. It won’t mean he gets 2-3M like he would picked 15-20th in the draft but it could supplement for 1 year easy
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nba life absolutely sucks. Google articles on it the playing late flying into a new city and playing again the next night. 82 games and practices it’s just brutal.
I think he sits down and if we didn’t win a title wants to come back and will. If we win it all he’s gone.
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@kuballin10 said in Duke Kills Kansas... Kansas Wins Game!:
@jayballer67 I think a few things factor in:
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he’s a KS kid that’s always wanted to play at KU I think more so than the nba
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NIL will help he is already in a great commercial. It won’t mean he gets 2-3M like he would picked 15-20th in the draft but it could supplement for 1 year easy
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nba life absolutely sucks. Google articles on it the playing late flying into a new city and playing again the next night. 82 games and practices it’s just brutal.
I think he sits down and if we didn’t win a title wants to come back and will. If we win it all he’s gone.
OK - -money takes care of a lot of the things you mentioned ,you always have to figure in the risk of IF he comes back - -get’s hurt or GOD for bid an injury bad enough to keep him out total huge risk. For people that I’ve heard say basketball is a non contact sport - -I say - -roflmao - -I can tell you from playing myself & the officiating the game for the casual fan sitting in the stands , eve the front row - - you have no idea how much you miss.
Basketball has NO protection against injury at all like football, Always a risk of injury - -a lot ok kids don’t want to take that risk , and now he has played at KU this year. - -He is NBA Ready , quick shot – smooth , defense psssst please 3/4 of the players in the league don’t play defense unless it’s the OLAY defense – they get use to the schedule sure it’s brutal but not gonna make a difference if it’s year brutal or next - - Brutal is Brutal. - -but it’s ok if you think he is coming back - -I’l think he is gone it’s ok thats what the board is about discussion - just don’ get use to seeing him long – enjoy him while we got him
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I’m not getting a feeling he is in a hurry to rush to the league. From what I understand of him… he is relishing in playing at KU as it was a lifetime dream. Money can’t compete against childhood dreams… especially if you aren’t in an impoverished situation.
Yes… if he stays it is at some level of risk, but so is going too early to the league. Och really showed how important it is to have patience and build the brand.
I don’t know if this relates… but Self is already selling next year’s team. Improving the chances of GD returning? IDK
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@jayballer67 I can 100% see the argument to leave - no doubt as you clearly laid out.
I just got a feeling can’t explain it lol
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@drgnslayr we see it the same way
How is Self selling next years team? I must have missed that article or tweet. Fill me in
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@kuballin10 said in Duke Kills Kansas... Kansas Wins Game!:
@jayballer67 I can 100% see the argument to leave - no doubt as you clearly laid out.
I just got a feeling can’t explain it lol
It would be nice if he did , I’m just saying he wont - -that way if he does come back just be like Christmas next year - -great present lol
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The speculating on players leaving keeps moving up every year!
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@jayballer67 shoot better than Christmas! Lol
I enjoy our back and forth even when we don’t agree. May get heated at times, but I am never mad - I enjoy discussing the team. We are all hawks!
Wanted to throw that out there cause of our debates last week
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They aren’t hurting for money and an education would be important to their family. He can get that along the way, too. He’s really smart. I think he’s having a lot of fun.
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If Gradey is projected lottery Self would 100% tell him to go. Regardless, he’ll be fun to watch at least this year.
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@kuballin10 said in Duke Kills Kansas... Kansas Wins Game!:
How is Self selling next years team? I must have missed that article or tweet. Fill me in
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I agree… I’m just not too sure he reaches that NBA stock in one year.
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I just noticed that with 9 seconds left, Coach Norm took Gradey out of the game. Why take out one of the few players who can make a FT? Who has better hands than Gradey for the inbounds pass and the quick Duke foul? Welcome back Coach Self. Re-watching the the last 4 minutes shows Gradey was great, but so were Dajuan(charge), KJ (basket at rim and one), and Wilson.
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@stoptheflop If Bill retires soon they are obviously going to have to look outside of the program for a head coach. Thankfully I don’t think we have to worry about Bill retiring anytime soon.
