Next Year's Team Thread
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@Crimsonorblue22 lol
Maybe he stays if KJ transfers out. Have no doubt he wants to stay. I’d be surprised but Bill has really softened over the years…
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KJ’s shooting form looks way better lately… @BeddieKU23 @Kcmatt7
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@BeddieKU23 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Career sub 40% shooter from the floor fyi
No one in the country would be above 40% if they were forced to take the shots he took. Their offense stunk. Many of those were forced shots with a tick or two left on the shot clock because no one else would take the shot, and he was guarded. He has a great shot and on a real team would lift his % dramatically.
If you look at his stats, he shot 40% from both 2 and 3 pt line as a freshman. Then it was downhill from there. The team continually crashed their offense.
I know he’s a Shocker and that is a negative for many… but he’s a great young man with high character.
I don’t know if he fits with this team, but he has a lot of play that resembles Och.
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I can live with 1 year where a player’s role is forced into this or that. We have 4 years of data on Dennis and he can’t shoot consistently. Under 40% for 4 years is terrible imo.
The tape shows plus athleticism, defense (for which he was rewarded in the league), physically mature guard/wing. Tape shows he can make open perimeter shots with 176 made 3’s in his career. Think he’s a cut below KU level and the kind of impact player that will raise the ceiling
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I’ll just leave it like this. I bet Och would shoot in the 30s on that Shocker team. I tried to watch several of their games and they weren’t watchable. Dennis was one of their guys having to force up late clock guarded shots. His shot form isn’t available out there in college basketball, but with a few… like Och had. I hope the kid gets a chance to shine somewhere and he will disprove critics when playing in a real offense.
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I agree Wichita wasn’t fun to watch this year. Saw a few games & their current coach isn’t the answer. Dennis brings plenty of experience to the table. Good athlete and defends. Certainly has some skills a coach like Self values. We have MJ Rice who’s basically a younger/better version of Dennis imo. We certainly need to replace Och with a comparable body though so Dennis is an option, just not sold on him being the one.
We have an unbalanced roster right now. We should see plenty of roster movement this week & perhaps some portal action.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
KJ’s shooting form looks way better lately… @BeddieKU23 @Kcmatt7
Would be a really good problem to have if he can just hit a wide open 3. That problem being how tf do you get everyone minutes?
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@Kcmatt7 It would be an absolute game changer for him imo
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The only thing I’ll say about Dennis - we do sort of need a 3 and D guy on this roster. Not necessarily a sniper, but you saw how that role helped with JCL and Moss. And neither of those dudes could defend. If he can hit 3s at a .380 clip and bring a spark on D, I’m interested.
There are not a lot of minutes left to give out. If Dennis wants to spend his 5th year as a mature bench piece, I’m good with it.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
The only thing I’ll say about Dennis - we do sort of need a 3 and D guy on this roster. Not necessarily a sniper, but you saw how that role helped with JCL and Moss. And neither of those dudes could defend. If he can hit 3s at a .380 clip and bring a spark on D, I’m interested.
There are not a lot of minutes left to give out. If Dennis wants to spend his 5th year as a mature bench piece, I’m good with it.
Yeah we could simply…not have him take 2s except dunks. Classic Self wing role.
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Dennis brings other qualities to the table, too.
We all have come to know that it isn’t just if a kid can ball. Their attitudes are equal contributions (or not).
https://twitter.com/Goodable/status/1462160115629498376
We may need a big dose of humility on next year’s team coming off a NC.
I don’t know if he’s a good fit… that’s Self’s job. I do know he’s headed to Indiana for a visit.
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@drgnslayr said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Dennis brings other qualities to the table, too.
We all have come to know that it isn’t just if a kid can ball. Their attitudes are equal contributions (or not).
https://twitter.com/Goodable/status/1462160115629498376
I don’t know if he’s a good fit… that’s Self’s job. I do know he’s headed to Indiana for a visit.
I just think there are better fits - better kids for that spot - seen Dennis plenty of times -Big time volume shooter - he is either hot - -or he is frigid cold - no in betweens - And when he is cold seems like doesn’t matter he STILL keeps letting it fly -forced or not during those times can really hurt the team. - BUT you know what they say - -the difference between a guy that’s a shooter and a great shooter - the shooter shoots he misses - -he is done - - A great shootere - -he shoots misses and keeps shooting cause he thinks EVERY SHOT is going in
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Dennis left the team once… under the abusive behavior of Marshall. This kid can flat-out ball… and never fit well in that system of abuse and mental illness of Marshall… and Brown is in disarray. I think he’s ready to show who he really is in his final season. Heck… people don’t even know how athletic he is. He’s another Och. And I bet he has a chip with him, and we can use any kind of chip next year because that will be lacking! I’m just thinking out loud!
I think about how he could grasp Self… and Self is truly a players’ coach. He’s never had that. To me, it seems like a great fit, but there is a reason I am at home and not coaching D1! lol
I just wish he had two years of eligibility left. That second year would be a real monster.
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I would like to thank @Jethro for always believing.
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After so many years of practice deciphering the cryptic posts on this board, it sounds like Braun will be coming back. Big news.
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@Crimsonorblue22 that pic of andrew jones is nuts. Shows the extent these kids will sacrifice their bodies to get a few inches of advantage on their opponent. Baller.
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@RockkChalkk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
After so many years of practice deciphering the cryptic posts on this board, it sounds like Braun will be coming back. Big news.
Much more likely today than it was previously. Heard some very good news in regards to that situation. Really can’t overstate how much he enjoys it at KU.
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Just to keep it straight in my head…keeping track of the comings and goings.
NEWCOMERS
Gradey Dick / sf
MJ Rice / sf
Ernest Udeh / c
Zuby Ejiofor / pf
LEAVING
Ochai / g
JCL / g
Remy / g
Mitch / c
Cuffe / g
PROBABLY LEAVING
McCormack / c
KINDA MAYBE GOING
Cam / pf-c
KJ / not a guard? ha
Wilson / f
Braun / gf
Joe Y / g
We got some strange math going on! gotta find some guards. Experienced guards.
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Cuffe is a lock to leave.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Cuffe is a lock to leave.
Gotcha. i’ll update my list. thx @BShark
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Hasn’t been announced but it will be.
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Agree we need a veteran scoring guard from the portal. I’m sure Bill will get one.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Hasn’t been announced but it will be.
Dude was so hyped coming in, right?
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@rockchalkjayhawk Basically a very athletic guy they took a flyer on. I disliked that they had him reclass up. Really needed the extra year in HS and then still take a RS. I think he’s probably 2 years away, skill wise.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk Basically a very athletic guy they took a flyer on. I disliked that they had him reclass up. Really needed the extra year in HS and then still take a RS. I think he’s probably 2 years away, skill wise.
yea, the reclass part made it seem like he was a can’t miss gotta have kinda guy. confusing.
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@rockchalkjayhawk Maybe @FarmerJayhawk can confirm but I’m fairly confident we only asked him to reclass because Bryce left. Bill likes having the roster full.
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And just to do math, which isn’t my strength!
4 guys coming in
11 guys potentially leaving! Of course that won’t happen.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk Maybe @FarmerJayhawk can confirm but I’m fairly confident we only asked him to reclass because Bryce left. Bill likes having the roster full.
Makes sense.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
And just to do math, which isn’t my strength!
4 guys coming in
11 guys potentially leaving! Of course that won’t happen.
Guessing 3-4 early departures. Impact of transfers will depend on who leaves. Think we do need that scoring guard type regardless.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
And just to do math, which isn’t my strength!
4 guys coming in
11 guys potentially leaving! Of course that won’t happen.
Guessing 3-4 early departures. Impact of transfers will depend on who leaves. Think we do need that scoring guard type regardless.
So that means we prolly need to find 4 guys from the portal, or 5-star unsigned guys
Looking forward to the shenanigans in the next few weeks. Go Self and crew!
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@rockchalkjayhawk won’t be high school guys. If CB and JWill are both back, probably mostly roster filler guys to replace roster filler Bill didn’t like lol.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk Maybe @FarmerJayhawk can confirm but I’m fairly confident we only asked him to reclass because Bryce left. Bill likes having the roster full.
Yeah the plan was to take him as a 22 recruit until… we didn’t
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@RockkChalkk said in Next Year's Team Thread:
After so many years of practice deciphering the cryptic posts on this board, it sounds like Braun will be coming back. Big news.
Much more likely today than it was previously. Heard some very good news in regards to that situation. Really can’t overstate how much he enjoys it at KU.
He’s king of the mountain. It’s not like he’s hurting for money right now, even if his family is well off. I think he will definitely get evaluated by the NBA, and he’ll come back for his senior year.
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@drgnslayr said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Dennis brings other qualities to the table, too.
We all have come to know that it isn’t just if a kid can ball. Their attitudes are equal contributions (or not).
https://twitter.com/Goodable/status/1462160115629498376
We may need a big dose of humility on next year’s team coming off a NC.
I don’t know if he’s a good fit… that’s Self’s job. I do know he’s headed to Indiana for a visit.
Great defensive player. If we only had to play defense, he’d be great. Offensively, he’s sub par. I’d be afraid Bill would fall in love with his defense, and would overlook how mediocre he really is on offense. This is no Ochai…lol.
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@approxinfinity where is that?
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@Crimsonorblue22 in that story about Yes you posted
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@Crimsonorblue22 I can’t fine anymore photos of Manhattan, Ames, Lubbock or Fort Worth that everyone hasn’t seen 8 times twice a year. I’ll be back when the new Big 12 is finally formed.
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@wrwlumpy ha. You could do collages of anything i would still check em out.
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@wrwlumpy at least check in! We miss hearing from you.
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Dave officially gone, announced on Instagram. Kinda had to given we recruited like he would be gone. Would have been a bad look and burned some bridges.
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Damn. Now let’s get his name in the rafters…
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More soon. CB and JWill should both declare without an agent.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Dave officially gone, announced on Instagram. Kinda had to given we recruited like he would be gone. Would have been a bad look and burned some bridges.
2 out of 3 ain’t bad…
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@Jethro said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
Dave officially gone, announced on Instagram. Kinda had to given we recruited like he would be gone. Would have been a bad look and burned some bridges.
2 out of 3 ain’t bad…
We would have had someone leave that we REALLY don’t want to leave if Dave were to return.
I’d put it at 1.5 right now. With CB being the .5.
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I think CB has the best chance but I think J Will wants to leave more than CB
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I think CB has the best chance but I think J Will wants to leave more than CB
Both very true. Talk around JWill is he wants to leave before every offseason and he ultimately ends up returning. It’s mostly because his other options are not as good. If you flip flopped their draft stock CB would be 1000% back and JWill would have declared w/ an agent by now.
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@BShark said in Next Year's Team Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next Year's Team Thread:
I think CB has the best chance but I think J Will wants to leave more than CB
Both very true. Talk around JWill is he wants to leave before every offseason and he ultimately ends up returning. It’s mostly because his other options are not as good. If you flip flopped their draft stock CB would be 1000% back and JWill would have declared w/ an agent by now.
Did JWill go through the process last year? If he declares again, is he gone for good?
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@Gorilla72 Fairly confident they changed that rule so that players can go through the process as many times as they want.
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JWill can declare again and return.
