March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!
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Something to chew on from the other board.
Self in the first round with 4-5 days prep- 15-2
Self in the 2nd round with 1 day prep- 10-5
Self in the Sweet 16 with 4-5 days prep 8-2
Self in the Elite 8 with 1 day prep 3-5
Self in the Final 4 with week prep 2-1
Self in the Championship with 1 day prep 1-1
Notice a pattern?
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@BeddieKU23 This is a testament to what a great coach he is when he has time to prepare.
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On the other hand I hope that he has been doing some self evaluation on how to improve this pattern.
This is where I think he also needs more help from his assistants, greater in depth evaluation, scouting and strategy on potential round 2 / elite 8 opponents.
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83% win rate with time to prep. 56% on the 1 day turnaround.
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@BeddieKU23 We’ve had some very unfortunate losses in the E8. The Michigan game still bothers me.
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I would like to see comparative numbers from other coaches with at least 15 tourney appearances and, say, at least 5 Regional finals.
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@Jethro I design heating and air systems. After 24 years, I can do it in one day as opposed to a couple of weeks when I first started. Self should be able to coach on a moment’s notice. My opinion.
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Also, if KU only has one day to prepare, that means the other team does, too. So there’s no difference in prep time. It comes down to the ability (and willingness) to make adjustments when Plan A doesn’t work after a short prep time.
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When we can’t shoot threes very well and the other team can we are likely toast. We can survive for a bit but if the other team scores inside too we are burnt toast. These are tourney ready teams so high turnovers, a weakness, and missing three foot shoots, another weakness , lets any team stay with us. Bottom line is we will need to play like a championship team or else.
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Being a one seed we were being atop a loaded bracket and maybe meeting #2 Kentucky in the elite 8. A two seed we were in a somewhat easier bracket and likely meeting one seeded Auburn in the elite 8.
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Ask and you shall receive. You really made me work for this one
Mark Few
First Round- 18-3: 2nd Round- 10-8 : Sweet 16- 5-6 : Elite 8- 2-3 : Final 4- 2-0 : Finals- 0-2
Game Prep- 73%
1 day turnaround- 48%
Calipari (UK only)
First Round- 9-0 : 2nd Round- 8-1 : Sweet 16- 7-1 : Elite 8- 4-3 : Final 4- 2-0 : Finals- 2-0
Game Prep- 85%
1 day turnaround- 66%
Ratface K
First Round- 30-4 : 2nd Round- 24-6 : Sweet 16- 15-9 : Elite 8- 12-3 : Final 4- 9-3 : Finals- 5-4
Game Prep- 77%
1 day turnaround - 75%
Jay Wright
First Round- 12-3 : 2nd Round- 7-5 : Sweet 16- 4-3 : Elite 8- 3-1 : Final 4- 2-1 : Finals- 2-0
Game Prep- 72%
1 day turnaround- 66%
Izzo
First Round- 17-6 : 2nd Round- 14-3 : Sweet 16- 10-4 : Elite 8- 7-3 : Final 4- 2-5 : Finals- 1-1
Game Prep- 65%
1 day turnaround- 75%
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@BeddieKU23 Thanks! The numbers really look like everyone goes down without as much prep…except Izzo. Maybe he prepares for the Sat/Sun games during the week rather than Thurs/Fri games?
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@mayjay I agree. Very good point.
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@justanotherfan Yes! We all know he has the ability. Sometimes his stubbornness costs us games.
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Well got to find another way to try and watch the game. - -Dam Snow has caused total signal loss - - NOT TV period. - -Anybody have any ideas ? - -Would we still be on ESPN Plus maybe ? - -Anybody
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@jayballer67 If you have internet you can use the ESPN App and log in using your cable provider. That’s how I watch just about every game.
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@benshawks08 said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
@jayballer67 If you have internet you can use the ESPN App and log in using your cable provider. That’s how I watch just about every game.
ya I have internet. -So I just type ESPN.com then what do I do buddy ?
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@jayballer67 Obviously you have internet if you are posting here. Oops.
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@jayballer67 The easiest way I have found is to go to “Scores” under NCAAM. You can then see the games that are underway and there should be a “Watch” button next to a game if it’s televised. Click that and it should take you through the steps to log in using your cable provider.
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@jayballer67 Try getting the Texas TCU game on right now to play to test it out.
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@jayballer67 If you are on your phone or some other mobile device you may have to download the ESPN App.
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@benshawks08 said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
@jayballer67 The easiest way I have found is to go to “Scores” under NCAAM. You can then see the games that are underway and there should be a “Watch” button next to a game if it’s televised. Click that and it should take you through the steps to log in using your cable provider.
Is there a cost on that buddy ?
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@jayballer67 Not if you already pay for cable. How do you normally watch games?
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@benshawks08 said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
@jayballer67 Not if you already pay for cable. How do you normally watch games?
Direct TV buddy I have ALL the ESPN channels
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@jayballer67 So yeah it should work. Just pick Direct TV when it asks for your provider and use whatever log in you have set up for your Direct TV account stuff.
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Bravo for your post! I’m surprised Few dropped off so much on a 1-day turnaround. He typically has his troops so well-prepared. Maybe he’s gone far without having the top athletes because they were so prepared, but only having a day brought them down to earth on performance. I don’t know…
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The 2nd round was his achilles early in his career and they had high seeds as he was building the program up.
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Thanks dude!
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Bruce Weber is threatening to not cut his hair until cheaters stop cheating?
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@jayballer67 said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
@benshawks08 said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
@jayballer67 Not if you already pay for cable. How do you normally watch games?
Direct TV buddy I have ALL the ESPN channels
I use Youtube TV as my alternative to cable and satellite. It’s about 65 bucks.
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We are the top team on the conference in scoring, defense scoring, scoring margin, fg%, and 3% but not In rebounds or rebounding margin. And wins!
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It also looks like the only change in one or two seeding will come from, KU, UK, Duke or Baylor?
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@Zabudda said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
It also looks like the only change in one or two seeding will come from, KU, UK, Duke or Baylor?
My guess is that the tournament champions get #1s and the losers get 2s, with Duke falling behind UK and KU/Baylor if all three win their tournament.
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@justanotherfan said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
@Zabudda said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
It also looks like the only change in one or two seeding will come from, KU, UK, Duke or Baylor?
My guess is that the tournament champions get #1s and the losers get 2s, with Duke falling behind UK and KU/Baylor if all three win their tournament.
Makes perfect sense! But this IS the NCAA lol.
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So what is our hope now? Are we merely hoping to stay out of the same bracket as Kentucky? If Arizona goes down in their next game and their PG is out for the tournament… do they bounce from the top line? And then let’s say we win the B12 tourney and Kentucky wins the SEC tourney… can we see the possibility of both teams making that top line?
What do you all think… should we want to win today?
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@drgnslayr We should always want to win. Every time we can. That doesn’t mean we can’t find silver linings in a loss, but those are never better than a win.
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I am still adamant that getting a one seed is important and likely if we just tcob
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The higher the seed, the easier the path, so logically you would always want the highest seed. However, seeding also sets the expectation.
I’m always happiest when our performance exceeds expectations. When you’re the 1 seed, you are expected to reach the Final 4. If you don’t, your season is a disappointment. At least, that’s the perception.
I would have been pretty happy if we had won the NCAA tournament in 2020. We had the best team, and should have won it all if the tournament hadn’t been cancelled. But nothing beats the pure joy of a 6-seed advancing all the way and winning the whole thing (e.g., 1988 Danny and the miracles). Expectations were pretty low that year. We had a flawed team, and lost 3 times at home, so the run through the tournament was truly unbelievable. Winning it all when you are expected to is pretty cool, but doesn’t come close to the rapturous delight from that kind of miracle run.
So I will always want to be the highest seed, but if we have a few hiccups during the season that hurt our seeding in the tournament and lowers expectations, that translates to less despair if we lose in the tourney, and greater joy when we win.
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I am quite the opposite! I enjoy the season regardless of the tournament. Watching 35 or so (well, 27 or so, thanks for nothing, ESPN+) games gives me lots of exposure to these guys who work so hard. Different personalities, different ambitions, different talent, but they all rep KU so well. Fun to see the crowd get excited for the walk-ons or Mitch’s 6th year breakthrough, fun to see would-be pros making Och’s huge strides.
I might be disappointed in a tournament result, but there’s no way it represents an entire season.
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“Looking like we may be a 2-seed.” WRONG!
“Who are your picks for “chip teams?” Teams with the biggest chip. My chip teams are the Zags, Duke, Texas Tech.”
PROBABLY WRONG, at least with Duke and TT.
I’m the greatest at jinx!
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@tundrahok said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
The higher the seed, the easier the path, so logically you would always want the highest seed. However, seeding also sets the expectation.
Not necessarily in regards to the top 4 seed lines. Those 16 teams are seeded 1-16 and shipped off to the closest region possible. The only exceptions are when the #1 overall seed and #5 overall seed would be in the same region, then the #5 overall seed gets shipped elsewhere. Right now, it’s looking pretty likely that KU will end up with Kentucky as their 2 seed in Chicago because Chicago will be the closest regional to each team. It doesn’t matter that KU is probably going to be the #3 overall seed and Kentucky the #5 overall seed.
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I’m thinking it might be a big 10 school as the #2 in our region. Possibly the loser of the Purdue / Iowa game, assuming the winner gets the fourth #1 seed. Both are high quality. Then there’s Illinois that won the regular season. Not sure what to make of them. Always possible the committee rewards them for that accomplishment more than the loser of the tournament.
I think the SEC loses its #1 seed by virtue of Auburn and KY early exit in their tourney… but what do I know.
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@bskeet said in March Madness: Seedings? My advice... plant wheat!:
I’m thinking it might be a big 10 school as the #2 in our region. Possibly the loser of the Purdue / Iowa game, assuming the winner gets the fourth #1 seed. Both are high quality. Then there’s Illinois that won the regular season. Not sure what to make of them. Always possible the committee rewards them for that accomplishment more than the loser of the tournament.
I think the SEC loses its #1 seed by virtue of Auburn and KY early exit in their tourney… but what do I know.
There’s a very strong consensus on the 1 seeds at this point being Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, and Baylor. Auburn, Kentucky, and Duke were the other teams in the mix. Going into the conference tournaments, most projections had Auburn instead of Kansas as a 1 seed, but swapped due to the outcome of the conference tournaments. Purdue wasn’t going to make the 1 line regardless of what happened in the Big 10 and Iowa was on the 4/5 line entering the Big 10 tournament so they weren’t moving up that far.
I think the only change that might happen on the top 2 seed lines at this point is maybe Tennessee and Purdue swap as a 2/3 seed if Purdue loses today.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yes, it gets a lot more complicated when you start looking at seed lines across regions. Especially when you consider who a given team would play early, who they might play late, and where everybody plays. I was just thinking about within a region, once the seeds are set. A higher seed generally has a greater probability of advancing than a lower seed.
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@drgnslayr https://twitter.com/rockchalkmemes/status/1503461586123558920?s=21
You say something about a chip? I feel like you might have mentioned a chip…
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You know I’m loving this! And I loved how Self talked about how this team doesn’t have the talent of past teams, but no one has convinced them of that!
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Per Creighton Coover on Twitter: The #Jayhawks potential 1st round opponent, Texas A&M Corpus Christi, only faced 1 #NCAATournament team heading into their play in game on Tuesday. On 12/22 they lost on the road to #11 seed Notre Dame 83-73.
