Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread
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@jessejayhawk said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@stoptheflop don’t forget that we had to beat the refs as well
Usually I give the refs some slack, but these guys sucked tonight.
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Maybe Bill will change his ways when we get smoked by Baylor
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@BeddieKU23 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Nah your fine. Its a limited roster at positions we had elite play from. Tough to watch pros vs non pros
Yep. Tech has multiple NBA guys, KU probably has 0 in all honesty. And the ones that have a shot like Bryce aren’t ready yet.
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Ok guys, so hate todo it but I’m going to be the Debbie downer here, but your more then welcome to your opinion. This (KU ) team RIGHT NOW - - this is NOT a top 5 team in the Nation. I would say more like 14/15 range. - Got to give them credit for gutting it out and getting past all the BS phantom charge calls , Bilas was saying those WERE NOT charges , but having said that again right now this is just not a top 5 team.
We are so careless with the ball just stupid for the most part unforced turnovers - -we got lots of work to do. - yet still love the guys - - this is done and on to the next - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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But we r beating good teams
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@approxinfinity said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Maybe Bill will change his ways when we get smoked by Baylor
MAYBE
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@approxinfinity said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Maybe Bill will change his ways when we get smoked by Baylor
I was thinking 2-1 to open conference play would be a miracle. We will somehow split with Baylor. If you switch coaches so that Self is coaching Baylor, Baylor would go 2-0 against us.
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@jayballer67 I think we are top 5 defence but maybe not in the top 25 on offence
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@jayballer67 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Ok guys, so hate todo it but I’m going to be the Debbie downer here, but your more then welcome to your opinion. This (KU ) team RIGHT NOW - - this is NOT a top 5 team in the Nation. I would say more like 14/15 range. - Got to give them credit for gutting it out and getting past all the BS phantom charge calls , Bilas was saying those WERE NOT charges , but having said that again right now this is just not a top 5 team.
We are so careless with the ball just stupid for the most part unforced turnovers - -we got lots of work to do. - yet still love the guys - - this is done and on to the next - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So, I would agree that we aren’t playing close to top 5 caliber, but other than the Zags and Baylor, who has a better record - quality wins thus far???
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Also, if Shannon doesn’t make shots against anyone else but us this season I will be mad.
THIS fool had only been averaging 22% from the 3 all year, but right on par like always when teams play KU he plays out his ass - -BUT hey it’s a road win for us big bonus - -like they always say you have to protect your home Court and we came in a took it
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These are fun to read in hindsight lmao. Gutty win. This team has a really good makeup. A little bit down on talent but I can’t name many teams better.
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I’m just glad Tech finally has a hate-able player (in the spirit of conference rivalry). I can think of several guys from every other Big 12 team going back forever, but this McClung fellow pushes all the right buttons to be the first real boo guy ever from Tech (other than coach Knight)
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
These are fun to read in hindsight lmao. Gutty win. This team has a really good makeup. A little bit down on talent but I can’t name many teams better.
Bill is a helluva coach. This roster does not fit great and lacks much if anything down low. I do think Marcus plays too much, he could use some rest. Too many Dave fadeaways and Marcus getting stuffed hopefully we see more of an actual offense soon but I trust Bill.
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@BShark said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Man I’m sorry guys. I think I’m short on sleep or something; not seeing the glass half full on these grind games with dave and Marcus jacking up garbage.
Dave and Marcus take way too many shots, I’ve been on that train.
Agree, but I would cut Marcus at LOT more slack… Both 3 - 10. But Marcus had 10 points, 10 boards, 4 assists and 1 TO - and plays defense. Dave had 7 points, 3 boards (5 others had as many or more), 3 TOs, 4 personals, and he plays matador defense (at least when he has to guard the perimeter).
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Tech leads the league in Defense - we shoot40 % - -But our defense was better - - Tech shoots 32 %
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coach made a really good move late switching to the zone for a stretch threw them off , cause we getting beat on man to man - - sometimes beat bad
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Marcus does not have the luxury of having Doke clearing out the lane for his drives to the hoop. Hopefully Big Mac willl learn how to do that a little better
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@jessejayhawk said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Marcus does not have the luxury of having Doke clearing out the lane for his drives to the hoop. Hopefully Big Mac willl learn how to do that a little better
My hope for that is very low. Our bigs are so bad at screening. Maybe next year it improves, certainly bringing in a lot of bodies.
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@BShark said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Man I’m sorry guys. I think I’m short on sleep or something; not seeing the glass half full on these grind games with dave and Marcus jacking up garbage.
Dave and Marcus take way too many shots, I’ve been on that train.
We went on a 7-0 run in the last few minutes when Garrett was on the bench. Don’t get me wrong I love the guy but he needs to be on the bench when we need offense. That’s my opinion anyway.
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@rockchalkwyo said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@BShark said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
Man I’m sorry guys. I think I’m short on sleep or something; not seeing the glass half full on these grind games with dave and Marcus jacking up garbage.
Dave and Marcus take way too many shots, I’ve been on that train.
We went on a 7-0 run in the last few minutes when Garrett was on the bench. Don’t get me wrong I love the guy but he needs to be on the bench when we need offense. That’s my opinion anyway.
Completely agree.
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https://twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1339756962884497410
Bill. Eugene. Self.
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@DCHawker a lot of times Marcus had the shot at the end of the clock, not much choice!
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We have not had to many guys “on” at the same time! Look out if we get atleast 3!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@DCHawker a lot of times Marcus had the shot at the end of the clock, not much choice!
Part of this is because we aren’t really running much of an offense yet and most of this team isn’t able to get by their man.
I quite like Cuffe, hope he is on the team next year. He’s fast and an electric athlete. There will be growing pains but he can grow into a great Bill Self PG IMO.
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I thought Bryce would be stronger by now, but no easy games now. He needed more. All our rooks needed more
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@Crimsonorblue22 I meant easy games
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
I thought Bryce would be stronger by now, but no easy games now. He needed more. All our rooks needed more
Yeah. Bill knows he will be good, I like that he lets Bryce play. UK is the only game where he had single digit minutes.
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@BShark did he get many mins tonight? Didn’t seem like it?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
@BShark did he get many mins tonight? Didn’t seem like it?
14! He just didn’t do a lot stat wise.
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I remember a big 3 on his head
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How the expletive is this team 7-1 btw
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Thinking back. - - -How big was Harris 3 pt shot at the time looking back – Huge 3
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@BShark said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
https://twitter.com/hoopvision68/status/1339756962884497410
Bill. Eugene. Self.
Self almost stroked out when Garrett didn’t hit agbaji immediately.
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He just said on post game Marcus was covered by hi hands and didn’t think he could get it over. The earlier time in the game the lob was there for Och, but they couldn’t get it to him. Said they were bad at lobs, for now.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
How the expletive is this team 7-1 btw
I am convinced that if you gave Bill a ham sandwich, a bag of rocks and a rubberband he would make the tournament.
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@BShark lol
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@BShark He’s like the MacGyver of college basketball.
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PER’s from the win!
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Dave is down to an awesome sauce 39% from the field. He’s 28 for 71 on the year. It took 4 years for Doke to miss 43 shots.
To put it another way, Dave has as many missed shots as rebounds on the season.
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Dave played a key role in the win last night. He was in the lineup for crucial stages something we haven’t seen so far this season. Self trusted him and he delivered.
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@BeddieKU23 I think Dok was 162 of 241 is senior year and 211 of 274 his sophomore. I agree Dave has been a statistical mess
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This season alone Self is 4-0 in games decided by four points or less, and he’s 69-38 in those scenarios in 18 seasons at Kansas. He’s also 24-9 in overtime games.
From an article on the athletic.
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Dave isn’t Dok by any stretch of the imagination (and we shouldn’t expect that, just as Marcus isn’t Dot) and certainly. has his issues, but if you go back and watch the game, he had several moments that definitely contributed to the victory. I see something in this team that has been missing so many times through the years - fight, scratch and claw for something that looks almost not possible.
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@BShark said in Emperor Of Basketball Game Thread:
This season alone Self is 4-0 in games decided by four points or less, and he’s 69-38 in those scenarios in 18 seasons at Kansas. He’s also 24-9 in overtime games.
From an article on the athletic.
Those stats don’t even seem real. Guess the guy might be able to coach a bit or else he’s VERY lucky.
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I’m sure people aware but heard last night & then again today. - -This was the 30th win in a row for KU to win it’s Conference opener - - pretty dam good , but what makes it even better is - - - out of those 30 in a row - - -18 Conference openers included in this that 18 of them have come on the road - -that’s just insane - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Yeah 30 in a row is insane!
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I like how they have been able to win games when players have off-games.
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Never imagined a center shooting 39% from the field taking 90% of his shots from 8 feet in.
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I guess I’ll take the (um, what’ the opposite of Debbie Downer? - Polly Positive?) view on this team. They may not all click at the same time, our interior offense may be lacking and there is some questionable decision-making, but so far it seems like someone steps up and makes a play when it is needed. Look at Braun from last night: horrible shooting, but had 10 rebounds, I think, and threw the ball off McClung, I believe, to save a crucial possession. Look at Wilson’s block at the end of the game, or TGF’s critical rejection a few games ago. Just seems like someone steps up when the situation calls for it. You can win a lot of games just by making a play somewhere, somehow.
I dunno - I’m don’t have a coaches critical eye like many of you all do, but I really like the guys and the mojo on this team, something I haven’t said the past couple of years, and they will only get better as the year progresses.
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Bill Self is unbelievable. The man is a College Basketball God and he does not get near enough credit outside of our fanbase.
