Ok so lets see if new recruiting thread
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@BShark Ya I hear ya bud and - -that blows, things have changed so much in my life time, things so much more complicated/ complex these days . - -When I was in School playing basketball many, many moons ago we didn’t have all these shoe companies competing against one another, we had Converse - -that was it, and they was the old Cloth type high top shoes not these fancy colored or different shoe things, your right gets or can get really ugly - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Whatever happens, taking Robinson is better than an open spot on the roster.
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I haven’t seen that reason disclosed as of yet. Some speculate that Stansbury thought his relationship with Robinson was good enough that if he made the move to fire Williams that Mitchell would stick around anyway. Mitchell was committed to Texas A&M while Stansbury was on the staff and when he took the WKU gig and took Williams with him that is when Robinson switched.
I would speculate that Williams had some issues that could have been NCAA violation material if he was allowed to stay. You would think an assistant brought on to lure a Lottery pick type talent wouldn’t be dismissed mid-summer and shortly after teams are allowed to practice etc. Sounds to me that there are some things that Stansbury doesn’t want to bring attention to and just wanted to wipe his hands clean of any possible future issues.
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It’s crazy that KU is in this position in August.
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@BeddieKU23 Ya, I hear ya, it just sounds like a real mess. - -I mean what’s happened to family? - -Respect for the other, just another situation of being all about me , me, me - -Now seems like the family is just wanting/pushing towards the NBA - -soon, real soon, all about the money, money, money - -just sad. - -feel sorry for Mitchell. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG
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@BShark Without a doubt. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Slater was on the Duke board talking about Emmitt Williams handler. I think its safe to say we don’t have much of a chance of him switching from Nike to Adidas with him involved.
Another side note. The Duke board is completely delusional. They are still talking about Dotson like they have a chance/or were recruiting him.
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@jayballer54 I misread the situation. I didn’t realize his whole family was in meal ticket mode.
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Mitchell Robinson will be visiting New Orleans
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Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein)8/16/17, 9:49 AM Former Western Kentucky commit Mitchell Robinson is expected to visit New Orleans today, per a source. Visited Kansas last weekend.
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Former Western Kentucky commit Mitchell Robinson is expected to visit New Orleans today, per a source. Visited Kansas last weekend.
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Well that’s a bit of a downer.
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Jerry Meyer had a video blog on Facebook earlier and I caught part of it. The highlight are.
No recent news on Robinson but if he is playing college ball at all it will be KU.
Dotson- A bigger more developed version of Frank Mason at similar stages but without the outside shot that he will develop in college.
Zion Williamson - Freakish athlete. He played very weak competition in HS and his AAU team was not very good. Many consider him a tweener and at KU he might play the 3 or the 4 like Jackson did. Being the poster boy for Adidas gives KU an advantage.
KU offers to more people than other blue blood schools and hence it looks like it misses on many but in the end it does just fine. This time around KU is well ahead and better positioned than other years.
No inside scoop at all or anything that we have not heard before.
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Well then, this is something with Robinson. Guess nothing should come as a surprise at this point…
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@Statmachine so is it over for us? Which school in NO?
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He must not be willing to suit up for a season if he doesn’t qualify this year? Bummer!
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@Crimsonorblue22 University of New Orleans
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@BeddieKU23 Ha, # 1 they have about as much chance of Landing Devon as there is a chance of it Snowing on the 4th of July in Tampa Florida # 2with Duval there and isn’t Tre Jones a pg? signing for the coming yr - - likely not - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY i
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this is funny now
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@BShark Well what this says to me is either quite possibly the KU staff quite possibly laid things out for him how they would have to play out such as if he wasn’t cleared Robinson would have to commit to sitting and then paly a year such was the Case with Malik and quite possibly he wasn’t hip to that as much, they didn’t tell him what he wanted to hear, or he is just checking New Orleans because of family, aren’t they close to that area? - -hmmm New Orleans/ KU - -KU/New Orleans? -close in stature huh? hmm National exposure? - - placing players in the NBA? - - -developing players? - - environment? just exactly what the hell is this kid thinking? - -this is what we want? - Sorry my Crimson & Blue showing through - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 It is? - -Do we really want this mess? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
this is funny now
Yeah, what a mess.
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@jayballer54 probably not…
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@jayballer54 Chalmette is closer to New Orleans than I am to Topeka, and I have a Topeka phone number. Just for some perspective. He could have walked there if he wanted, lol.
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I’d still take him. It isn’t like he is out there saying outrageous things. He doesn’t appear to have any off-court issues. I think we may be reading too much into things. To me, all it seems is that his momma wants him close to home or with someone she can trust.
He doesn’t feel that way. But guess who pays his cell phone bill, buys his clothes, and puts gas in his car probably… Hard to argue with your parents, even when you are right.
At least that is the way this feels to me.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 University of New Orleans
Not Tulane? He could practice driving to the basket past their big 8 foot foam wave mascot!
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It could be Tulane…if he is considering Tulane or New Orleans, then he is wanting a place where he will be the star and have guaranteed playing time, something he will not get at KU. If that is his attitude, and I am not saying it is, just thinking aloud…does KU really want him?
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@JayHawkFanToo Or maybe he’d rather be near home if he ends up not getting a waiver and has to only practice before going pro. I could not begrudge him that.
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@mayjay Very true. And wherever he chooses to transfer to will be the only place he can go. Makes his decision that much more important. He can’t transfer a second time per NCAA rules. So by staying home he is saying that his chances are slim he receives a waiver and he wants to go pro after this season. If he commits to KU, he is saying he will be here 2 years.
Both of those things are fine. It is his choice. He should take the time he needs to figure it out, and nobody here should be upset about it. Even if it feels like a bit of a circus show.
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…but…would that environment prepare him at all for the draft and NBA? If he wants to get the best training for the next level, New Orleans is not it, KU is.
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good points.
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@BShark i’m going to call it…NEXT!
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@BShark This is getting to be more of a soap opera by the minute I mean WKU - -Now New Orleans, add this to the fact he notifies the WKU Coach that he is leaving withdrawing from WKU via a TEXT? - -really?
I’m beginning to wonder is it really worth it - -you add in the possibility even if it’s a remote possibility you add let’s say he tells KU staff ya I’m coming, doesn’t get a waiver sits the year, works out with the team and then next year when it’s time BAM he leaves without ever touching the floor and or playing a second for KU. Now whether it’s the parents, relation, or some other kind of outside influence, giving him some grief/false information it’s not good seem like the cons could just in the end run outweigh the pro’s
One thing is for sure, If I read things right he has to make some kind of a decision one way or another pretty soon I think maybe at the latest by the end of the month, again maybe the reason he is visiting New Orleans is that he didn’t hear what he was wanting to hear from Coach OR Coach didn’t hear what he wanted to hear and said - - -good luck, were not going to be able to offer/help you - -I just don’t see a positive news coming away from this, I think we are done with this. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE YEP time to pull anchor, before all this came up it looked very likely that we would be playing with 8 starting out anyways, Coach had said that they were still looking but said it would have to fall into their lap - -well the situation fell into our lap - - just not the right situation - -time to go, didn’t hurt to feel it out, we didn’t lose anything, we are going to be fine either way- - -run a lot of 4 guard with the 4 we got gonna cause some real problems have the Scholi for next year cause very well might end up needing all we can get. You look at the departures/possible earlies: - - -Graham, Newman, SVI, Doke, Vick - - I just think the kid is soooooo confused/ pressured but you gonna sit and developat New Orleans/Tulane - -come on. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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JayHawkFanToo said:
It could be Tulane…if he is considering Tulane or New Orleans, then he is wanting a place where he will be the star and have guaranteed playing time, something he will not get at KU. If that is his attitude, and I am not saying it is, just thinking aloud…does KU really want him?
It’s been confirmed that it’s UNO he is visiting.
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Also people very tied in to KU were convinced this was done and he said he would come to KU. Soooooooo I mean, I suppose like I said nothing should surprise with a kid that just abruptly left the campus of WKU w/o telling anyone.
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Recruiting is a helluva drug.
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trying to follow recruiting gives me a head ache lol. - -Calgon - -take me away lmao. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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He could be satisfying his mother’s wish by taking the visit to NO considering how close it is from home. Without trying to read too much from this its hard not to judge his actions to date
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You know and I know this might sound really crazy, and even though have heard nothing other then the one day and that is on Zion Williamson.
Seems to me as time goes on I have no idea why but just feeling a little better about the possibility of landing at KU. Now I don’t have any new hot tips/leads to back me p on this other then what has already been talked about here, but I’m just feeling MAYBE - -things might just surprise some people.
Mainly the two reason well the obvious third but the main two - -Devon Dotson be a friend of his, still kind of odd that Devon gets added to Zion’s AAU team late and they turn things around, Zion likes playing with him and says they could play together at the same place and # 2 The shoe Adias right? as we know when they stick their nose in which they do, they have some pull - -then # 3 obviously is just Coach Self and KU overall. I just wonder - -is there a legit chance? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 -Some of his actions to say the least Questionable - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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If Zion lands at KU we will know in full effect what shoe affiliation can do for a program. He is the face of Adidas.
I don’t think his friendship with Devon or KU offering his teammate has as much influence as Adidas has here. As Slater pointed out both of these moves were not coincidence. They want Zion to be the face of Adidas with how big his brand already is. We are talking what Curry is to Under Armour or what Lebron is to Nike.
It doesn’t hurt that KU has an unbelievable track record with athletic wings like him and is one of the premiere programs out there. KU is a safe school for him because the offense would go through him and we won’t hurt his brand or draft stock unless he didn’t live up to the hype.
KU certainly helped itself this summer but we’ll see if we still have the same momentum whenever he decides to get serious about where he’s going (which could be anywhere from fall to spring)…
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Is a full scholarship too high of a price to play for a practice player if he will not be cleared and he is bound and determined to be a OAD? I would say yes.
KU can probably get some former players such as Pollard, Simien , Gooden or currently unemployed Jeff Withey to come and practice with the bigs for a lot less than the cost of a full scholarship.
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BeddieKU23 said:
He could be satisfying his mother’s wish by taking the visit to NO considering how close it is from home. Without trying to read too much from this its hard not to judge his actions to date
This is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe something like this happened “Mama, I’ve made my decision and I am going to go to KU. I’m committing for two years and it will mean an extra year in college before going to the NBA because I’m giving them my word.”
“Ok, I’ll support you but before you make your decision final, would you at least take a look at the local school just down the street? Please? Do it for me. This way at least you can say that you fairly considered all of the options before making this big decision in your life.”
“Ok fine, I’ll call coach Self and let him know what is going on and will take the visit to UNO.”
Lol, just speculating but based on all of the insider tips that were floating around it would fit with the actions he is taking. Perhaps I’m just trying to cling on to any hope I can. Either way, it sure has been quite the rollercoaster.
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A good speculative stance to take.
Here’s another. He’s visiting the local school because sitting a year isn’t what he wants to do and he can train for the NBA while staying close to home. NO might see this as a win-win because A) they’ve never had someone of his talent on the roster (even if its to practice), 'B) helps with recruiting, C) would look good to the university if he gets drafted next year (which helps with B again).
This is definitely one of the more bizarre situations that KU has been involved with
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UNO? Really, UNO? The UNO that’s gone to the dance eight times? Well at least he’ll be close to home and Lake Pontchartrain.
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This is from a WKU person that posted on the phog. So, tfwiw but if true…
"Stansbury recruited Robinson when Stansbury was an assistant at Texas A&M. Stansbury went to WKU as head coach and he re-recruited Robinson. Stansbury also hired Shammond Williams (Robinson’s Godfather) as an assistant coach. Turns out that was a mistake. SW while on staff was trying to get Robinson to go to China and play pro with SW being his agent. Stansbury found out and that is why SW resigned. By then all the talk in Robinson’s ear by SW, made Robinson bolt. Huge mistake on Robinson’s part. All he had to do was play one season at WKU and his future should have been secured. As for playing at WKU, with Robinson, WKU had the 8th ranked recruiting class in the nation and that did not count a couple of 4 star players that sat out last year. Anybody that is a long time basketball fan knows that WKU has a long tradition with basketball. WKU is working to get back some of that tradition.
Keep in mind that Robinson is very raw. He did not start playing basketball until his sophomore year. Talk was he did not like getting banged around in practice by bigger stronger players. That is something he is going to have to get used to if he expects to make it at the professional level. Kid actually seems to be a good kid, but was getting bad advice. His mother was pushing him to stay at WKU."
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@BShark I bet Dwight had no idea he was getting into such upheaval!
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@BShark And Embiid started playing bb when? How’d that work out for him?
