Ok so lets see if new recruiting thread
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It’s his circle that pushed him to WKU, which he hated. It’s a difficult situation here. Recruiting is often messy and usually it never comes to the surface. When Slater posts who is running a recruitment, I tend to believe him.
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Well a couple of quotes from Zion Griffin pulled off the Iowa State Board.
Concerning Iowa State from a poster: Zion says I’ve always liked the Big 12. Iowa State has been one of my favorite teams, I feel like they are a really good fit for me.
My deadline is the end of Sept, if everything plays out I will commit at the end of my visits. The poster said it all sounded good BUT he says then Zion had this to say about KU:
KU is one of my biggest offers, I like KU, because I grew up watching KU, and a lot of my favorite players are from there. I feel like I can definitely see myself fitting in there with them offering me and wanting me on their team. It is a " Dream come true" - -" it is one of my favorite Colleges " - - -Sounds to me with his visit coming on late night the guy is ours for the taking if we want him - got to feel really god about him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Kid wants KU bad, but KU has to reciprocate and show he is really needed.
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@BShark Well if that turn out to be the case then I am definitely all for it, but will feel MUCH better when it actually happens. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Should be today. I think a lot of the delay is his circle being unhappy with him committing to play a year for Self/KU and it seeming unlikely that it will be this year.
Just pass the time by watching his highlights. If he plays next year Dedric + Robinson is the best starting front court in the country PERIOD.
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@BeddieKU23 Gotcha, I understand now, it’s to bad that people can’t honor - -understand and respect the desire the wishes of the boy, - -If he didn’t really want to go to WKU in the 1st place sounds like he was just trying to satisfy everyone else no matter of his own feelings first time round. - -If I’m a parent I would want my son to be happy where he was at, not where I wanted him to be. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Does anyone know why his godfather resigned? That was before Robinson started classes. The timing may hurt his family-ties argument.
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@BShark Mercy, could you imagine?- - -OR IF for some reason Doke would come back next year also - -JUMPIN GEE HOSSIE TOADS, what a front line. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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It’s people beyond the parents sometimes unfortunately. Especially if the kid comes from a poor background. AAU is EXPENSIVE so sometimes a handler covers the cost for, you know, reciprocation later.
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@mayjay Sorry me personally - -I don’t but you could very well be right - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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mayjay said:
@jayballer54 Does anyone know why his godfather resigned? That was before Robinson started classes. The timing may hurt his family-ties argument.
Some kind of cleaning house according to WKU people. He wasn’t the only assistant that left.
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jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Gotcha, I understand now, it’s to bad that people can’t honor - -understand and respect the desire the wishes of the boy, - -If he didn’t really want to go to WKU in the 1st place sounds like he was just trying to satisfy everyone else no matter of his own feelings first time round. - -If I’m a parent I would want my son to be happy where he was at, not where I wanted him to be. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I can’t speak for Mitchell but your right it does seem like his situation at WKU was forced upon him instead of what he wanted. He followed Williams and Stansbury and then found out he didn’t want it.
But now if we assume correctly that he’s about to make the decision he wants to make and that isn’t what others around him want then the situation is really not settled even if he comes here. How likely is it that the kid is going to shut those people out for good?
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@BShark i like the way you think.
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BeddieKU23 said:
But now if we assume correctly that he’s about to make the decision he wants to make and that isn’t what others around him want then the situation is really not settled even if he comes here. How likely is it that the kid is going to shut those people out for good?
It’s going to be very difficult. If anyone has the panache it’s a coach like Self. Would also apply to Miller, Cal, K or Roy. I think it’s good that he is ending up at a blue blood with a big time coach.
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@BShark Ya I hear ya bud and - -that blows, things have changed so much in my life time, things so much more complicated/ complex these days . - -When I was in School playing basketball many, many moons ago we didn’t have all these shoe companies competing against one another, we had Converse - -that was it, and they was the old Cloth type high top shoes not these fancy colored or different shoe things, your right gets or can get really ugly - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Whatever happens, taking Robinson is better than an open spot on the roster.
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I haven’t seen that reason disclosed as of yet. Some speculate that Stansbury thought his relationship with Robinson was good enough that if he made the move to fire Williams that Mitchell would stick around anyway. Mitchell was committed to Texas A&M while Stansbury was on the staff and when he took the WKU gig and took Williams with him that is when Robinson switched.
I would speculate that Williams had some issues that could have been NCAA violation material if he was allowed to stay. You would think an assistant brought on to lure a Lottery pick type talent wouldn’t be dismissed mid-summer and shortly after teams are allowed to practice etc. Sounds to me that there are some things that Stansbury doesn’t want to bring attention to and just wanted to wipe his hands clean of any possible future issues.
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It’s crazy that KU is in this position in August.
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@BeddieKU23 Ya, I hear ya, it just sounds like a real mess. - -I mean what’s happened to family? - -Respect for the other, just another situation of being all about me , me, me - -Now seems like the family is just wanting/pushing towards the NBA - -soon, real soon, all about the money, money, money - -just sad. - -feel sorry for Mitchell. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG
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@BShark Without a doubt. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Slater was on the Duke board talking about Emmitt Williams handler. I think its safe to say we don’t have much of a chance of him switching from Nike to Adidas with him involved.
Another side note. The Duke board is completely delusional. They are still talking about Dotson like they have a chance/or were recruiting him.
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@jayballer54 I misread the situation. I didn’t realize his whole family was in meal ticket mode.
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Mitchell Robinson will be visiting New Orleans
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Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein)8/16/17, 9:49 AM Former Western Kentucky commit Mitchell Robinson is expected to visit New Orleans today, per a source. Visited Kansas last weekend.
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Former Western Kentucky commit Mitchell Robinson is expected to visit New Orleans today, per a source. Visited Kansas last weekend.
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Well that’s a bit of a downer.
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Jerry Meyer had a video blog on Facebook earlier and I caught part of it. The highlight are.
No recent news on Robinson but if he is playing college ball at all it will be KU.
Dotson- A bigger more developed version of Frank Mason at similar stages but without the outside shot that he will develop in college.
Zion Williamson - Freakish athlete. He played very weak competition in HS and his AAU team was not very good. Many consider him a tweener and at KU he might play the 3 or the 4 like Jackson did. Being the poster boy for Adidas gives KU an advantage.
KU offers to more people than other blue blood schools and hence it looks like it misses on many but in the end it does just fine. This time around KU is well ahead and better positioned than other years.
No inside scoop at all or anything that we have not heard before.
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Well then, this is something with Robinson. Guess nothing should come as a surprise at this point…
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@Statmachine so is it over for us? Which school in NO?
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He must not be willing to suit up for a season if he doesn’t qualify this year? Bummer!
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@Crimsonorblue22 University of New Orleans
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@BeddieKU23 Ha, # 1 they have about as much chance of Landing Devon as there is a chance of it Snowing on the 4th of July in Tampa Florida # 2with Duval there and isn’t Tre Jones a pg? signing for the coming yr - - likely not - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY i
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this is funny now
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@BShark Well what this says to me is either quite possibly the KU staff quite possibly laid things out for him how they would have to play out such as if he wasn’t cleared Robinson would have to commit to sitting and then paly a year such was the Case with Malik and quite possibly he wasn’t hip to that as much, they didn’t tell him what he wanted to hear, or he is just checking New Orleans because of family, aren’t they close to that area? - -hmmm New Orleans/ KU - -KU/New Orleans? -close in stature huh? hmm National exposure? - - placing players in the NBA? - - -developing players? - - environment? just exactly what the hell is this kid thinking? - -this is what we want? - Sorry my Crimson & Blue showing through - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 It is? - -Do we really want this mess? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
this is funny now
Yeah, what a mess.
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@jayballer54 probably not…
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@jayballer54 Chalmette is closer to New Orleans than I am to Topeka, and I have a Topeka phone number. Just for some perspective. He could have walked there if he wanted, lol.
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I’d still take him. It isn’t like he is out there saying outrageous things. He doesn’t appear to have any off-court issues. I think we may be reading too much into things. To me, all it seems is that his momma wants him close to home or with someone she can trust.
He doesn’t feel that way. But guess who pays his cell phone bill, buys his clothes, and puts gas in his car probably… Hard to argue with your parents, even when you are right.
At least that is the way this feels to me.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 University of New Orleans
Not Tulane? He could practice driving to the basket past their big 8 foot foam wave mascot!
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It could be Tulane…if he is considering Tulane or New Orleans, then he is wanting a place where he will be the star and have guaranteed playing time, something he will not get at KU. If that is his attitude, and I am not saying it is, just thinking aloud…does KU really want him?
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@JayHawkFanToo Or maybe he’d rather be near home if he ends up not getting a waiver and has to only practice before going pro. I could not begrudge him that.
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@mayjay Very true. And wherever he chooses to transfer to will be the only place he can go. Makes his decision that much more important. He can’t transfer a second time per NCAA rules. So by staying home he is saying that his chances are slim he receives a waiver and he wants to go pro after this season. If he commits to KU, he is saying he will be here 2 years.
Both of those things are fine. It is his choice. He should take the time he needs to figure it out, and nobody here should be upset about it. Even if it feels like a bit of a circus show.
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…but…would that environment prepare him at all for the draft and NBA? If he wants to get the best training for the next level, New Orleans is not it, KU is.
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good points.
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@BShark i’m going to call it…NEXT!
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@BShark This is getting to be more of a soap opera by the minute I mean WKU - -Now New Orleans, add this to the fact he notifies the WKU Coach that he is leaving withdrawing from WKU via a TEXT? - -really?
I’m beginning to wonder is it really worth it - -you add in the possibility even if it’s a remote possibility you add let’s say he tells KU staff ya I’m coming, doesn’t get a waiver sits the year, works out with the team and then next year when it’s time BAM he leaves without ever touching the floor and or playing a second for KU. Now whether it’s the parents, relation, or some other kind of outside influence, giving him some grief/false information it’s not good seem like the cons could just in the end run outweigh the pro’s
One thing is for sure, If I read things right he has to make some kind of a decision one way or another pretty soon I think maybe at the latest by the end of the month, again maybe the reason he is visiting New Orleans is that he didn’t hear what he was wanting to hear from Coach OR Coach didn’t hear what he wanted to hear and said - - -good luck, were not going to be able to offer/help you - -I just don’t see a positive news coming away from this, I think we are done with this. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE YEP time to pull anchor, before all this came up it looked very likely that we would be playing with 8 starting out anyways, Coach had said that they were still looking but said it would have to fall into their lap - -well the situation fell into our lap - - just not the right situation - -time to go, didn’t hurt to feel it out, we didn’t lose anything, we are going to be fine either way- - -run a lot of 4 guard with the 4 we got gonna cause some real problems have the Scholi for next year cause very well might end up needing all we can get. You look at the departures/possible earlies: - - -Graham, Newman, SVI, Doke, Vick - - I just think the kid is soooooo confused/ pressured but you gonna sit and developat New Orleans/Tulane - -come on. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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JayHawkFanToo said:
It could be Tulane…if he is considering Tulane or New Orleans, then he is wanting a place where he will be the star and have guaranteed playing time, something he will not get at KU. If that is his attitude, and I am not saying it is, just thinking aloud…does KU really want him?
It’s been confirmed that it’s UNO he is visiting.
