Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU
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I would love to think Garrett would be ready to play minutes as a freshman. If he is apart of the rotation early on that’s a great sign that he’s earned the coaches trust. I think its a stretch right now projecting that without seeing him in uniform first. The Italy trip should give us some insight about how ready he is now.
Agree about Doke, the goal is to keep him on the floor as much as possible. Everyone knows how much of a force he can be on a given night if he’s in the game. The fouls concern me but his ability to protect the rim and alter shots will be such a refreshing addition to what’s been missing from this defense. Lucas was a great defender but he was not someone that defenses feared.
We definitely need a big who can play next season unless Lightfoot or Coleby make some big strides this off-season. That’s why I prefer bringing in Juiston. He’s got one elite skill, rebounding, even at 6’7. He’s a great athlete, a much better athlete then Mitch & Dwight. He will provide weak-side rim protection ability which we saw in the Oregon game can completely change the complexion of a game. Lots of highlights on him erasing shots at the rim which is kind of the role Josh Jackson was able to provide. Not only can he rebound well his 2nd best skill is his floor vision. A 4 that can set up Doke inside or swing the ball out for an open shooter. Skills that I don’t think Preston, Lightfoot and Coleby are comfortable with. For reference Juiston had a 144 assists this year, 5 less then Devonte Graham had this year.
I do agree that a more skilled backup to Doke might be the best option but it seems like the staff is more worried about the 4 spot. They must think Coleby can have a productive off-season and provide the minutes we will need. Coleby had some good games but we know his limitations if he’s not able to become much more explosive with that knee. It’s a gamble if he doesn’t regain what he once had. So I can see the concern and the view to get someone that can help now with no questions attached. It will be interesting to see how we use the scholarship now that it became valuable with the Lawson brothers sitting out.
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Matt Scott is excited again.
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@BShark why is he excited again? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I would guessing a storm is a brewin again. Last time it was the Lawsons. He said this is “big” but not 100% yet.
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@BShark OH DAM whatcha thinking? - -more hot news ? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Jemarl Baker to Kentucky. Tough times in Squidville.
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No idea. Lots of speculation right now.
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@BShark How do you always have eyes on MS? Do you work with him? Have a secret spy cam installed? Flying a drone overhead of him? What is it? haha.
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Jeez, Baker is a good shooter. that’s a big pick up for them because they didn’t have a shooter signed
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I get the feeling its the younger Lawson (Chandler) that Matt put in a CB pick for today. 2 others did yesterday as well.
Chandler is a 2019 kid…
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@beddieku23 That’s an excellent deduction. I was thinking Duval, silly me.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:
Jeez, Baker is a good shooter. that’s a big pick up for them because they didn’t have a shooter signed
Yeah Cal has probably had shooting related nightmares lately. Briscoe, Fox etc…
@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:
I get the feeling its the younger Lawson (Chandler) that Matt put in a CB pick for today. 2 others did yesterday as well.
Chandler is a 2019 kid…
This seems very likely. It’s certainly not Duval, who is pretty much a done deal to Duke.
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Around the time Matt started the thread, Duke insider said Duval was a done deal to Duke. The same story he’s said for months really.
Matt is hard to trust after he knew Trae Young was going to OU for a week and then pumped KU up until the night before to drive traffic to his site. I guess we all have a job to do but it sheds some light on how much you can trust Matt for anything.
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Yeah that was extremely unpleasant all around.
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Kerem Kanter to Xavier.
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Matt deleted his own thread about whatever it was that was possibly going to happen. Something is going on
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@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:
Matt deleted his own thread about whatever it was that was possibly going to happen. Something is going on
Seems like someone deleted every post/thread he ever made LOL.
Also fwiw, a Memphis person put in a pick for Chandler to KU.
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@drgnslayr Other people talking about how Josh’s Mom really emphasizing the education, really wants to get his degree. - -AGAIN one more time , I mean we ALL know he is gone, but YET with every passing day and no announcement. - -some were talking about MAYBE THAT is Matt’s some big maybe happening again but not 100% yet? Some others have said could be he just didn’t want to rain on Franks parade steal his lime light.
AGAIN he has till the 23rd of this month main while it’s just tick - - -tick - - -tick - - . THAT would for sure be THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD. I mean come on really? - -BUT have you ever heard of the phrase " NEVER SAY NEVER " OMG just thinking about it BAM. - -but no - -no way. I still say he might announce tonight at the banquet. – I’m really surprised they haven’t said more about the banquet. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Checked other sites, a couple of things. - - -First Matt’s post is back, Another poster had asked what had happened to his thread - someone said probably something technical , Matt commented - -said ya something messed up, said probably Flarety I know that’s not the correct spell sorry, but anyways the thread is back - -55 responses at this point.
The Second thing was reading a question and answer interview with Trevon, Breaking down ALL the schools: - -Arizona , ,Seton Hall , Duke , Baylor , & KU:
As far as KU: - -Question , about what he liked – He said the Atmosphere, saying at the game their ( KU ) was an 11 . - - Duke was he said was a 10 . - - KU was great , Unbelievable , especially for a big game I went to the KU/Baylor game - -it was big time.
Question: - -Does it mater about Devonte being there? - -Answer: - -No , Cause Frank did it. – Question:- -What about Malik being there does that help?- - Answer- - I don’t really care who is there.- - -I can play with anyone , I’ve played with everyone , As long as everyone plays the game the right way , I’m not worried about playing with anyone.
Question have you set an announcement date? - - -Answer No. - - - -Hopefully sometime this month. - - -
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@jayballer54 the banquet is tonight. Hopefull Svi will announce his return to have some good news after Jackson announces his intentions.
Ben McLemore had a blast and wanted to come back, but money was an issue.
Wiggins loved playing for KU - top 3 picks have to get that money.
Jackson is an alpha beast and has also claimed to have a desire to return. Once again a top 3 pick-he’s got to go. Man, I hope I’m wrong!
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Wooten is available again…
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@BeddieKU23 What happened? -refresh my memory position? - He de-commit? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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It’s about Jeremiah Tilmon.
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@BShark OK, what am I missing? lol what is it that’s about Tilmon? – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Thanks for keeping me in “dream land!”
I think the outside chance of him staying could have to do with his competitive level. He knows if he stayed one more year he would completely dominate college basketball.
It is tough to create that kind of talent separation in the NBA. Even if he becomes dominant, he is just one of several dominant players on that stage.
I know Josh felt bad after that loss. He carried his share of the responsibility for that loss. Maybe he doesn’t want to leave college basketball on such a sour note?
It is such a pity if we can’t realize a bit more of his potential while in college.
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@jayballer54 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:
@BShark OK, what am I missing? lol what is it that’s about Tilmon?
ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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McLemore has impressed more than any other player for what he has done off the court after leaving. He has done a lot of community work and I understand he is taking classes on line and hoping to get a degree eventually. He has also been back to Lawrence often and has been a great ambassador for the program.
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“Obviously experience,” said KU coach Bill Self in an interview with the Journal-World when asked what area Graham’s decision impacted the most. “But not having a primary ball-handler would’ve been the biggest thing we would’ve had to tighten up. And we’re still gonna try to sign another guard. But to have two players who we feel are legitimate, all-conference type guards in there already, in Devonte’ and Malik (Newman), is pretty comforting.”
So who’s the guard going to be. Allen doesn’t seem like a day one guy. Is KU in on another top guard not named Duval?
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Wow, that would certainly solidify the back up center spot
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Not KU but with Jarrett Allen staying in the draft for Texas look for Bamba to end up with smart. SMH all around at that one. Really doesn’t matter anyway, Bamba is only in College for 1 anyway
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No. It will very likely end up being Allen.
@BeddieKU23 said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:
Wow, that would certainly solidify the back up center spot
Missouri people are getting nervous. This could be fun…
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Tremont Waters said that KU has reached out to him as well as UCONN, Creighton and Georgetown
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Interesting, very interesting. Last time MS posted he was saying KU still wasn’t involved. I’m not sure Waters would get as many minutes as he would hope for next year at KU.
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Preston has been twittering him as well
The school he’d get the most minutes at of the one’s he listed is the school he asked out of his LOI from.
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If he is willing to tough it out, fight for minutes and stick around then long term he would be the best guard KU could realistically add at this point.
If he picks KU or UConn then it’s to be the PG of the future. Not sure I like that as much as getting Dotson/Grimes in 18, but a bird in the hand and all that.
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Good point. We’ll see what happens. At least this info came from Tremont. He’d definitely have a role here as a freshman it just wouldn’t be one he might be seeking. So much going on for this 1 spot, or 2, or more if the Lawson’s don’t take up a scholarship for the season… Getting hard to keep track of everything
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I feel fairly confident that Graham and Newman are likely getting about 33mpg. Vick and Cunliffe are going to be around 22-25 minute players. That’s a lot of back court minutes taken up. Of course early on Cunliffe’s minutes will need to go elsewhere. Definitely need a 6th guard (5th before Cunliffe can play and yes I would have Waters behind Garrett) but is he willing to do that. That’s a lot easier I would think for Allen that hasn’t been as highly touted to accept.
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And yeah the scholarship situation suddenly got a lot more crowded.
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Rivals update for the 2017 class. 15 top 150 kids headed to the Big-12 with the possibility of 3-4 more by the look of things.
Preston at #10
Garrett up to #38 (he just keep sneaking higher and higher)
Duval #4
Waters # 37
Tilmon #42
Allen # 99
Other teams
Wigginton #23 (Iowa St)- kid is a stud
Young #15 (OU)- PG
Coleman #43 (Texas)- PG
Sims #56 (Texas)- PF
Ferbes #66 (Texas)- can shoot the ball
Culver #85 (WVU)- PF
Nembhard #88 (TCU)- SG
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“Kansas Assistant Coach Jerrance Howard will be in East Saint Louis, IL on Friday to see 2017 C Jeremiah Tilmon. Tilmon, the #29 ranked player in the 247Sports 2017 composite rankings, was released from his Letter of Intent by Illinois on Tuesday. Tilmon is expected to consider Missouri, Illinois and Kansas among others now that he’s been released from his LOI.”
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I would be surprised if Tilmon does not end up at Missouri.
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@drgnslayr said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:
Thanks for keeping me in “dream land!”
I think the outside chance of him staying could have to do with his competitive level. He knows if he stayed one more year he would completely dominate college basketball.
It is tough to create that kind of talent separation in the NBA. Even if he becomes dominant, he is just one of several dominant players on that stage.
I know Josh felt bad after that loss. He carried his share of the responsibility for that loss. Maybe he doesn’t want to leave college basketball on such a sour note?
It is such a pity if we can’t realize a bit more of his potential while in college.
Very nice dream! But I would think the only reason for JJ not to declare yet is to give him time to select an agent he will name when he announces. That would keep the pack of wolves from descending on him if he announced without one.
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Yeah Wigginton will be a good one for ISU. Surprised to see Allen crack the top 100.
@JayHawkFanToo said in Crootin Thread III, Wherein Some Players Probably Commit to KU:
I would be surprised if Tilmon does not end up at Missouri.
We will see, KU def in it.
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That is exactly what I said initially, too…
But @jayballer54 and I are “livin’ the dream” right now! My dream has extended to preparing space for new 2018 NC memorabilia at my Jayhawk shrine…
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Does Rivals still think Mizzou is in the Big 12?
Tilmon could end up at Mizzou or back to Illini.
Or… it would be great if he came to Kansas!
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This looks like a KU/Fizzou fight for Tilmon. We’ll see what happens. Howard visits him friday
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@BeddieKU23 Has he been on campus yet?
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Don’t think so. His recruitment accelerated early while KU was still involved with better post prospects.
