2023 Recruiting
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@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:
Fallback to Tyson IMO.
Both is possible.
Analytics bros over the moon
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drop the bag of all bags for Ron Holland
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Terry lost both of the top 50 UT recruits. Ouch.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
drop the bag of all bags for Ron Holland
Yep
Best wing available including the portal
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don’t get your hopes up. doesn’t sound like we’re at the front of the line?
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@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
drop the bag of all bags for Ron Holland
Yep
Best wing available including the portal
Definitely but freshman don’t move the needle if your trying to win championships. If he was the lone guy brought into start then fine but that’s not the situation we have. I don’t want anymore freshman unless we are replacing Johnson and or McDowell at this point.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
drop the bag of all bags for Ron Holland
Yep
Best wing available including the portal
Definitely but freshman don’t move the needle if your trying to win championships. If he was the lone guy brought into start then fine but that’s not the situation we have. I don’t want anymore freshman unless we are replacing Johnson and or McDowell at this point.
I still having a hard time of grasping this. - -So if CJ & McDowell are that bad where people want them out already - WHY did we eve recruit them in the 1st place ?
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
drop the bag of all bags for Ron Holland
Yep
Best wing available including the portal
Definitely but freshman don’t move the needle if your trying to win championships. If he was the lone guy brought into start then fine but that’s not the situation we have. I don’t want anymore freshman unless we are replacing Johnson and or McDowell at this point.
Yeah I generally agree but this guy is gonna be a top 5 pick. Only concerns would be shooting but I think he moves the needle way more than a Tyson.
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@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
drop the bag of all bags for Ron Holland
Yep
Best wing available including the portal
Definitely but freshman don’t move the needle if your trying to win championships. If he was the lone guy brought into start then fine but that’s not the situation we have. I don’t want anymore freshman unless we are replacing Johnson and or McDowell at this point.
I still having a hard time of grasping this. - -So if CJ & McDowell are that bad where people want them out already - WHY did we eve recruit them in the 1st place ?
I think McDowell is a really good long term prospect. Idk on Johnson. He had a horrible senior year which is not good from a guy you hoped would develop. Honestly another year of prep school wouldn’t the worst thing.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2023 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
drop the bag of all bags for Ron Holland
Yep
Best wing available including the portal
Definitely but freshman don’t move the needle if your trying to win championships. If he was the lone guy brought into start then fine but that’s not the situation we have. I don’t want anymore freshman unless we are replacing Johnson and or McDowell at this point.
I still having a hard time of grasping this. - -So if CJ & McDowell are that bad where people want them out already - WHY did we eve recruit them in the 1st place ?
I think McDowell is a really good long term prospect. Idk on Johnson. He had a horrible senior year which is not good from a guy you hoped would develop. Honestly another year of prep school wouldn’t the worst thing.
Thank You , now see that I can grasp/understand.- -I just find it hard to already sit sail on guys that we recruited to de-commit/transfer whatever , before they even step foot on the court to actually see them in action. - Pretty harsh judgement NOW yes after hearing stories and things on Johnson - -yes that I can understand a little better, how he might be kind of a distraction/ hard coaching and maybe some over all attitude - - I get that. - Yet like you said on Mcdowell I don’t - he CAN’T be that bad if we recruited the kid in the 1st place might be another one kinda raw and as you say long terem - but to just more or less give the impression they need to be gone before they ever step foot on the floor ? - - - Come On let’s be real
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:
I think McDowell is a really good long term prospect. Idk on Johnson. He had a horrible senior year which is not good from a guy you hoped would develop. Honestly another year of prep school wouldn’t the worst thing.
You know ball Farmer.
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Ok, I’m digging this guy. Wait until he’s here for 2 years. Plan B if Dickinson decides he’s too good for us:
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@Jethro said in 2023 Recruiting:
Ok, I’m digging this guy. Wait until he’s here for 2 years. Plan B if Dickinson decides he’s too good for us:
He sucks. Hard pass.
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@Jethro said in 2023 Recruiting:
Ok, I’m digging this guy. Wait until he’s here for 2 years. Plan B if Dickinson decides he’s too good for us:
Have you looked at his production on a God awful team? 8.4 rebounds per 40 minutes at his size is an embarrassment. This is a guy you use a 13th scholarship on and see if he develops. He’d be the 4th best 5 at KU next season so he’s not worth it.
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Ditto he is awful and fsu fans are not upset he left. He wouldn’t have played much if their C didn’t get hurt for the yr. He would never play here so I’m not worried
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LOL. Maybe you all should reach out to the coaching staff and let them know he sucks!
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@Jethro said in 2023 Recruiting:
LOL. Maybe you all should reach out to the coaching staff and let them know he sucks!
Wake me up if it goes beyond “contact”, which even Bossi said can simply mean the contact was initiated by the player/their people.
https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/1645882186736754688
The amount of players that “contacted” KU this cycle and it never went beyond that is staggering. Too many to list.
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@Jethro said in 2023 Recruiting:
LOL. Maybe you all should reach out to the coaching staff and let them know he sucks!
The staff already knows that. They have access to stats and film just like we do, except more in depth in each case.
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Just saying, Ron Holland is 100% worth the negative recruiting that would come with giving CJ the boot. Even if it meant we were banned from getting Montverde kids for forever.
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CJ shouldn’t be the one getting the boot. It should be # 5
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@TYOHawk I’m not arguing that. But it seems like that isn’t happening.
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Not like we have the pipeline with Montverde or the connections anyway with the program. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out which shoe co’s a majority of these guys land at.
This is a rare occurrence where we took a Top 40ish kid early and he didn’t develop playing with better players/against better competition and now he looks more like a borderline 4 star/high 3 star type. That’s a big difference. Perhaps a blessing to know what they are walking into. It also becomes a topic of whether he’s KU level anymore and what should happen there.
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Someone yesterday mentioned to me KU is interested in Dingle (?) from Penn who entered the portal. One of the highest scoring players in the country last year. Not seeing much confirming that this is true. Has anyone heard of him or this rumor?
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@wissox with Morris on board we’re done at guard
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We’ll see what happens but Mgbako might not make all his visits. RCJH
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:
We’ll see what happens but Mgbako might not make all his visits. RCJH
Obviously still a huge IF, but IF Hunter committed as well where do you think the extra scholarship would come from? Zuby??
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@Woodrow yeah my guess is we lose a big
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:
@Woodrow yeah my guess is we lose a big
I’ve been asked not to discuss it too much or name who the favorite would be, but this is a fairly safe assumption to make.
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I guess that’s the new landscape. I don’t think Bill would do this under normal circumstances, but Hunter charges the whole trajectory of the team next year if we get him. Sometimes you are going to have to risk losing a 3-4 year player for a 1 year rental if you think it gets you to the next level.
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Hunter could be for two years, right?
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@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Recruiting:
Hunter could be for two years, right?
Technically, but I doubt that’s his plan.
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@Woodrow he’d make more at KU vs any pro option. I’d bet he stays.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:
We’ll see what happens but Mgbako might not make all his visits. RCJH
would be nice if he didn’t just forget the Indiana & Louisville visits
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is Mgbako’s visit done?
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@rcjhdraft said in 2023 Recruiting:
is Mgbako’s visit done?
Not surer but think maybe. - -hpe this isn’t the last we see of him
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Really really really like where we’re at with Mgbako
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@FarmerJayhawk - related to Cuffe entering the Transfer Portal?
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@Gorilla72 I believe that’s the spot
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We ain’t done
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@BShark said in 2023 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Recruiting:
We ain’t done
Save the date, tomorrow.
heard from my buddy that lives in California- - -say we might just get another big catch tomorrow
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We get Mackenzie and I’m doing backflips
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Hunter Dickinson plus Juan are you kidding me?
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@Zabudda find a Juan assists prop bet and HAMMER it
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247’s final update:
Mgbako- 10th (looking optimistic here)
Elmarko- 18th but a 4 star (3rd highest 4-star)
Adams- #45th
Johnson- #71 (huge drop and rightfully so)
McDowell- #81
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FYI - Bronny James to USC. Staying near dad…
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Calipari losing Bradshaw to USC, in part due to an agency that has helped him get players would feed my family for GENERATIONS.
