RIP Jalen Wilson
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@KirkIsMyHinrich not like he has time to really work on improving, I did just say I hope he works out like u want. Jeez
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I think there’s a role for him on this year’s team if he plays. That’s it.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@FarmerJayhawk You aren’t the coach. You don’t decide whether or not Jalen is the 10th man. You don’t decide how many minutes he does play if he is the 10th man.
Dotson, Marcus, Ochai, Doke are getting minutes. After that? If anyone else isn’t having a great game I could easily see Jalen taking that player’s minutes for that particular game.
We’ll see. I don’t think Self has a definite rotation beyond maybe 4 or 5 players at this point.
Ummm… no s#!+ I’m not the coach. Not sure where you were going with that. I just asked how many minutes Self (who is the coach) has played the 10th guy historically.
Well, Wilson could improve but it’ll be hard to come back and meet Self’s standards on defense when A) he’s never been a particularly good defender and B ) he wouldn’t have played real minutes in 3+ months by the time he’s back.
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@FarmerJayhawk Were you actually looking for an answer to that question? I think you already know. Your post implied that he would be the 10th man in the rotation if he played. I’m saying that Self probably isn’t even sure who the 6th man in his rotation is yet, and that minutes for rotation players 6-10 are still up in the air.
Yes, he will have to get better defensively and improve in other areas as well. Will he? I don’t know. He’s a freshman. I certainly think he deserves the opportunity to try this season if he wants to.
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At this point Silvio is the last guy on the roster. Never would have guessed that going into the season.
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Wilson isn’t ready to contribute. You can dream, but him playing less than 5 minutes per game isn’t worth burning his redshirt. He isn’t a knockdown shooter. He is a cinderblock feet defender. He’s a below the rim player. I thought he was a project when he signed. Honestly, I pegged him as a transfer candidate because I thought he’d see no minutes come conference play, get pissed, and leave.
At this point, you might as well play 4 guards instead of Wilson because they’ll be better defensively and, in my opinion, better offensively. Wilson has a long ways to go before he should ever see the floor. He will have to develop a finesse game on offense and I’m not sure he’ll ever develop enough defensively that we won’t get frustrated by him.
The gain to playing him and burning his redshirt is minimal. Keeping him here 4 full years and him walking out with a Master’s Degree is the smart move. And I think Jalen and Self will come to that conclusion.
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BShark said:
At this point Silvio is the last guy on the roster. Never would have guessed that going into the season.
Unbelievable. Expected him to come in and be a monster. All mental. It’s like the game never slowed down for him.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@FarmerJayhawk Were you actually looking for an answer to that question? I think you already know. Your post implied that he would be the 10th man in the rotation if he played. I’m saying that Self probably isn’t even sure who the 6th man in his rotation is yet, and that minutes for rotation players 6-10 are still up in the air.
Yes, he will have to get better defensively and improve in other areas as well. Will he? I don’t know. He’s a freshman. I certainly think he deserves the opportunity to try this season if he wants to.
It was rhetorical. How has he earned an opportunity? If he comes in and lights it up in practice then I’d agree but barring that he hasn’t earned anything but a spot next to Mitch
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We have seen zilch of Wilson’s ability to defend, especially the 4.
I get your point about having another shooter available. Not sure it outweighs everything else
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I’m puzzled why we are quick so quick to dismiss Wilson. Is it likely he’ll be ready to play and make a big contributions this season? No.
But heading into the season I think most everyone thought he was more game ready than Enaruna, with Enaruna having more upside.
I understood that Wilson has decent three point shooting ability. To me, that’s 33-35%. Wiggins was in that range as I recall. But that doesn’t make the big impact it would take to shoot Wilson up the PT pecking order. 40% would. Don’t know about that from any freshman.
If he comes back say Feb. 1., we have a very busy February and early March of games. This could have him in decent position to help come tourney time. It is reasonable to the think that he could surpass Enaruna, but I don’t think anyone will expect that. I’d expect Enaruna to make the leap before I’d expect Wilson to. But Enaruna’s shooting was always considered an issue (switching dominant shooting hands, etc.)
There’s no answer here. But to foreclose it as a reasonable possibility doesn’t make much sense. Wilson has a lot to overcome – freshman, no real PT, guys that have that experience now, coming off a big injury, etc. It’s an uphill battle to be sure.
On redshirting (a practical consideration) the only way you redshirt a kid is IF he is a four year player. Here, he could play this season and still have three left. Odds are he’ll be gone then anyway to the pros. But if the pow-wow between player and coach says that he will like be a full term guy, then I guess we should redshirt. Another reason NOT to redshirt (from the KU perspective) is that he could graduate and leave the program when he reaches year five. So we’d only get him three full seasons anyway.
Personally, I would play him every minute Self thinks he deserves. All we lose is a possible 4th year. And in four years, heck, we might be bowing to an Ayatollah. Or CBB might have free agency. Play him what Self thinks is deserving.
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HighEliteMajor said:
I’m puzzled why we are quick so quick to dismiss Wilson. Is it likely he’ll be ready to play and make a big contributions this season? No.
When has coach Self EVER trusted a freshman early in conference play? You really think he will trust a freshman who hasn’t played this year MID conference play? ZERO chance Self plays him over 3 minutes per game. If he doesn’t red shirt he is completely wasting a year.
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Here’s my take: He doesn’t redshirt because–like most top 50 ranked freshmen basketball players–he’s not planning to be here for 4 years anyway.
Personally, I hope he does not redshirt. He’ll be better next year if he sees the floor just a little bit this year even if he doesn’t contribute meaningful minutes.
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I hate seeing guys sit out at all. Silvio’s involuntary year didn’t seem to do him any good. I’m worried Mitch will regress with an off year.
Who would be the best redshirt success story at KU? Travis Releford? (second year redshirt)
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DanR said:
I hate seeing guys sit out at all. Silvio’s involuntary year didn’t seem to do him any good. I’m worried Mitch will regress with an off year.
Who would be the best redshirt success story at KU? Travis Releford? (second year redshirt)
Morningstar redshirted the title year and was a major factor for the next 3 years primarily as a starter.
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My question on Wilson is he even eligible for a traditional redshirt this season or would KU have to apply for a medical redshirt for this season down the line since Wilson played 2 minutes against Duke?
If he’s eligibile for a traditional redshirt, I would be in favor of that because there’s very little about Wilson’s game that makes me think he won’t be a 4 year player.
If Wilson isn’t eligible for a traditional redshirt and would have to go the medical route, I would hold him out until he would still be eligible to obtain a medical redshirt then stash him on the bench as depth.
Of the 3 freshmen this season, Enaruna is still the one I’m highest on long term because of his size, skill, and athleticism and the one with the best chance to leave early.
Braun is playing better than Enaruna at the moment, but he’s also already closer to what his ceiling is so I don’t see him developing significantly more going forward and will be a fan favorite because of his effort. He’s going to replace Garrett as the glue guy that does a lot of little things to make his team better.
Wilson looks like someone who will be in college until he exhausts his eligibility whether that’s after 2022-23 or 2023-24. His game reminds me a lot of Perry Ellis with a little bit of Svi mixed in. Like Ellis, Wilson is primarily a below the rim player who prefers playing face up and doesn’t have much, if any back to the basket game. He was a good shooter in high school so I think he could develop into a Svi like shooter by the end of his career. I also don’t see him ever developing into a good defender. His footwork is just too slow to guard wings on the perimeter and he’s too much of a finesse guy to deal with physical post players that he’ll have to deal with at times.
Jalen Wilson is a good complimentary piece to have, but if he’s the focal point of the offense like Ellis was his senior season, it’ll be the same result at the end of the year.
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I’m not sure it’s a benefit, it just doesn’t waste a year. If coach is sure he’s going pro before 4 yrs? Silvios was a waste for him, was almost for 2. He only has 1 yr left to play. Pretty sure jalen doesn’t think he’ll be here 4 yrs.
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@DanR Travis
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
My question on Wilson is he even eligible for a traditional redshirt this season or would KU have to apply for a medical redshirt for this season down the line since Wilson played 2 minutes against Duke?
If he’s eligibile for a traditional redshirt, I would be in favor of that because there’s very little about Wilson’s game that makes me think he won’t be a 4 year player.
If Wilson isn’t eligible for a traditional redshirt and would have to go the medical route, I would hold him out until he would still be eligible to obtain a medical redshirt then stash him on the bench as depth.
Of the 3 freshmen this season, Enaruna is still the one I’m highest on long term because of his size, skill, and athleticism and the one with the best chance to leave early.
Braun is playing better than Enaruna at the moment, but he’s also already closer to what his ceiling is so I don’t see him developing significantly more going forward and will be a fan favorite because of his effort. He’s going to replace Garrett as the glue guy that does a lot of little things to make his team better.
Wilson looks like someone who will be in college until he exhausts his eligibility whether that’s after 2022-23 or 2023-24. His game reminds me a lot of Perry Ellis with a little bit of Svi mixed in. Like Ellis, Wilson is primarily a below the rim player who prefers playing face up and doesn’t have much, if any back to the basket game. He was a good shooter in high school so I think he could develop into a Svi like shooter by the end of his career. I also don’t see him ever developing into a good defender. His footwork is just too slow to guard wings on the perimeter and he’s too much of a finesse guy to deal with physical post players that he’ll have to deal with at times.
Jalen Wilson is a good complimentary piece to have, but if he’s the focal point of the offense like Ellis was his senior season, it’ll be the same result at the end of the year.
I believe eligibility for a medical is if he played in less than 1/3 of games due to injury.
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Gosh… receiving a RS should feel like a blessing for all players except the obvious OADs. It’s an opportunity to be in a system for an extra year, just minus game time. Perfect opportunity to level out your school work and then hammer down on your personal development. I’m always amazed to see players who get that year and only show marginal improvements. At KU, every scholarship player has the desire to make a living at basketball one day. You don’t get this time back later. No redo. And though the college experience is a very special time for youth it is something that must largely be sacrificed by those who really want to maximize their career after KU.
I’m still in a bit of shock on Silvio. He almost seems to have gone backwards. I know the pace of our game has picked up and he hasn’t made the adjustment… but a guy like that… with a body and strength like that… Was he just left on his own for a year? Man… if that was me I would have been in dance lessons, developing my footwork and I’d have walked out this past November and performed the most polished spin moves ever to show in AFH. Am I missing something here? Do these kids realize the opportunity in front of them? Not only NBA. Heck… play in Israel for 3 million a year…
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DanR said:
I hate seeing guys sit out at all. Silvio’s involuntary year didn’t seem to do him any good. I’m worried Mitch will regress with an off year.
Who would be the best redshirt success story at KU? Travis Releford? (second year redshirt)
Ben McLemore
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Arguably Landen Lucas. Just because of how much he developed from Year 1 to Year 5.
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BigBad said:
HighEliteMajor said:
I’m puzzled why we are quick so quick to dismiss Wilson. Is it likely he’ll be ready to play and make a big contributions this season? No.
When has coach Self EVER trusted a freshman early in conference play? You really think he will trust a freshman who hasn’t played this year MID conference play? ZERO chance Self plays him over 3 minutes per game. If he doesn’t red shirt he is completely wasting a year.
Hmmm. Quite a few times. Agbaji, Grimes, Garrett, Selden, Oubre, Graham, Mason, Wiggins – but you know, kind of a few. It’s happened “EVER.” Agbaji stepped on the court, low ranked freshman, no PT at all, and average over 20 minutes per game last January. Just a recent history lesson.
No one has said that Self will trust him early in conference play. The guy isn’t ready physcially now – which is “early” in conference play.
No one has said to throw him in at 15 min per game. Straw man argument. The idea, I think, would be to let him get his feet wet and ramp up if he deserves the ramp up OR of if we need it.
And you realize that redshirting him is also likely a waste? All it saves us his is his 5th year. If we get his 5th year, there is high risk that he either turns pro before then OR he leaves as a grad transfer.
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@HighEliteMajor well stated and pretty much where I am at with it.
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HighEliteMajor said:
BigBad said:
HighEliteMajor said:
I’m puzzled why we are quick so quick to dismiss Wilson. Is it likely he’ll be ready to play and make a big contributions this season? No.
When has coach Self EVER trusted a freshman early in conference play? You really think he will trust a freshman who hasn’t played this year MID conference play? ZERO chance Self plays him over 3 minutes per game. If he doesn’t red shirt he is completely wasting a year.
Hmmm. Quite a few times. Agbaji, Grimes, Garrett, Selden, Oubre, Graham, Mason, Wiggins – but you know, kind of a few. It’s happened “EVER.” Agbaji stepped on the court, low ranked freshman, no PT at all, and average over 20 minutes per game last January. Just a recent history lesson.
No one has said that Self will trust him early in conference play. The guy isn’t ready physcially now – which is “early” in conference play.
No one has said to throw him in at 15 min per game. Straw man argument. The idea, I think, would be to let him get his feet wet and ramp up if he deserves the ramp up OR of if we need it.
And you realize that redshirting him is also likely a waste? All it saves us his is his 5th year. If we get his 5th year, there is high risk that he either turns pro before then OR he leaves as a grad transfer.
Jalen would be a medical redshirt so it’s a bridge to cross if the situation arises. If Wilson is still playing college basketball in 2023-24 (what would be that 5th year) and is a grad transfer, that would mean that he’s majorly underachieved at KU and wouldn’t be looking at many minutes that season anyway at KU and therefore not a big loss to the success of that team.
If he turns pro first, then KU wouldn’t need to apply for the medical redshirt so it’d be a moot point.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 It’s not a “moot point.” The issue is whether we play him this season. So, if we play him this season, he loses the chance to redshirt. If we don’t play him, we lose potential help. So if he turns pro early (the item you suggested created the mootness), we lose his potential contribution this season if we choose to redshirt him, in that eventuality.
You make the assumption that grad transfer is not productive. That’s many times not the case. Moss? Tarik Black? Many times it’s just change of scenery, coach issues, could be PT – say if we brought in a presumed OAD. But at KU, I agree, that the grad transfer thing is less of a risk and would likely indicate other issues that might make us less harmed by the loss.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 It’s not a “moot point.” The issue is whether we play him this season. So, if we play him this season, he loses the chance to redshirt. If we don’t play him, we lose potential help. So if he turns pro early (the item you suggested created the mootness), we lose his potential contribution this season if we choose to redshirt him, in that eventuality.
You make the assumption that grad transfer is not productive. That’s many times not the case. Moss? Tarik Black? Many times it’s just change of scenery, coach issues, could be PT – say if we brought in a presumed OAD. But at KU, I agree, that the grad transfer thing is less of a risk and would likely indicate other issues that might make us less harmed by the loss.
Jalen Wilson played 2 minutes in the Duke game before his injury meaning he’s not eligible for a traditional redshirt this season since he appeared in a regular season game. The only way Wilson gets this season of eligibility back is through a medical redshirt which he wouldn’t apply for until the spring/summer of 2023 if he’s still playing college basketball at that time.
My understanding of how the medical hardship waiver works is that if Wilson comes back and plays at any point this season, he would no longer be eligible for a medical redshirt for this season.
Since his injury happened prior to the midway point of the season and Wilson played fewer than 30% of KU’s games, he’d currently be eligible for a medical redshirt if the situation arises.
So the question for Self is does he think that Jalen Wilson will be around in 2023-24 (I would strongly lean towards yes on that one) and does Self believe Wilson can help KU more in 2023-24 than in 2019-20. If the answer is yes, then the logical choice is to sit Wilson the rest of this season to preserve that year of eligibility.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Right, completely agree. You just agreed with my post. You said it was “moot” in your previous post. In this last post you said there were choices – see your last paragraph.
It is my understand that he can’t wait until future years to apply for the medical redshirt for this past season. He would need to do it now (or within a certain time period after the season).
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I could be wrong on the rules of medical red shirt, but what I found:
- The injury must be season-ending.
- The injury must occur before the second half of the season.
- The athlete cannot have competed in more than 30% of the season, or 3 competitions, before an injury.
Jalen qualifies for a MRS. If he comes back and enters a game, he loses this option. There may even be exceptions possible by filing a challenge with the NCAA.
Unless we lose several other players, I don’t see a scenario where Jalen comes back this season. Even if he was up to full speed (he won’t) he will have not be up to speed with the team.
I think it is important for him to keep this year of eligibility moving forward. I know I really appreciate 5th year seniors. Regardless of how many minutes they actually play, they provide needed leadership to young players, too. And almost regardless of their individual talent level, they are typically needed on the court at times because they know what to do, they know what Self wants.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Right, completely agree. You just agreed with my post. You said it was “moot” in your previous post. In this last post you said there were choices – see your last paragraph.
It is my understand that he can’t wait until future years to apply for the medical redshirt for this past season. He would need to do it now (or within a certain time period after the season).
You really didn’t read that entire post then. I said the redshirt issue is a moot point if Jalen left KU early, but that doesn’t fit the narrative you’re trying to create, but what else is new with you changing the parameters of a discussion to fit whatever narrative you’re trying to create on a given day.
I’ve also seen nothing that indicates a specific time frame for applying for a medical redshirt in the NCAA by-laws that I’ve seen on the matter. If you’re aware of that rule, feel free to share where in the NCAA by-laws it is.
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Honestly I think the risk of Wilson going pro early is overblown. Check out guys ranked 40-55 in the 247 composite from 15-17. Most are still in school, and many of those that did declare had extenuating circumstances.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Honestly I think the risk of Wilson going pro early is overblown. Check out guys ranked 40-55 in the 247 composite from 15-17. Most are still in school, and many of those that did declare had extenuating circumstances.
Pretty much my belief. A 50ish ranked recruit in a very weak recruiting class that would be in the 60-75 range in normal years isn’t very likely to leave early for professional basketball. Wilson also doesn’t have an NBA skill set even if he reached his ceiling at KU. He’s about 80% Perry Ellis and 20% Svi mixture. Wilson is a better shooter than Ellis was, but he’s a poor rebounder for his size, isn’t very athletic, and plays below the rim.
There’s very little about Jalen Wilson’s game and skill set that says he’ll be an NBA player at any point in his career.
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dylans said:
Ben McLemore
I thought he had to sit out for academic reasons. But he was pretty dang good after that year off, regardless.
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@DanR correct. He would have played right away if he was eligible.
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Same deal with Jamari. I don’t know if he got any better with the off year, but he was about as raw as possible to start with.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
Morningstar redshirted the title year and was a major factor for the next 3 years primarily as a starter.
How could I forget about Brady!
Mario Little sat out a year also after his JuCo stint.
All right, I’m starting to get on board with the redshirt for Jalen if it’s possible.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Try tracking here. You claim the redshirt decision is moot if he leaves early. It’s not.
The medical redshirt decision DOES matter IF he turns pro before his eligibility expires. Why? Because if we chooses the redshirt, then he won’t get to play this season and loses his PT this season (and we lose his services for that time). That is lost playing time that he/we can’t recoup when he leaves early. It’s not moot at all if he ends up leaving early. Where it is moot is if we get the redshirt AND he stays for his entire eligibility. Taht way we get the full amount of his services and he gets a full amount of college PT (four seasons of PT).
But, you know, just creating a narrative.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Try tracking here. You claim the redshirt decision is moot if he leaves early. It’s not.
The medical redshirt decision DOES matter IF he turns pro before his eligibility expires. Why? Because if we chooses the redshirt, then he won’t get to play this season and loses his PT this season (and we lose his services for that time). That is lost playing time that he/we can’t recoup when he leaves early. It’s not moot at all if he ends up leaving early. Where it is moot is if we get the redshirt AND he stays for his entire eligibility. Taht way we get the full amount of his services and he gets a full amount of college PT (four seasons of PT).
But, you know, just creating a narrative.
You try tracking. There is no official deadline to apply for a medical redshirt until 2023 for Wilson because that’s when it become necessary. If he plays this year and left early, the redshirt decision doesn’t matter. If Jalen sits this year and eventually leaves early, the redshirt decision doesn’t matter. That’s why it’s a moot point if Jalen leaves early.
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BShark said:
@DanR correct. He would have played right away if he was eligible.
A technicality, but I do think it was a redshirt year.
@Kcmatt7 Landen Lucas may have had a bigger impact due to 4 years played, but I think some may argue that impact was akin to being championship blocked.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Try tracking here. You claim the redshirt decision is moot if he leaves early. It’s not.
The medical redshirt decision DOES matter IF he turns pro before his eligibility expires. Why? Because if we chooses the redshirt, then he won’t get to play this season and loses his PT this season (and we lose his services for that time). That is lost playing time that he/we can’t recoup when he leaves early. It’s not moot at all if he ends up leaving early. Where it is moot is if we get the redshirt AND he stays for his entire eligibility. Taht way we get the full amount of his services and he gets a full amount of college PT (four seasons of PT).
But, you know, just creating a narrative.
You try tracking. There is no official deadline to apply for a medical redshirt until 2023 for Wilson because that’s when it become necessary. If he plays this year and left early, the redshirt decision doesn’t matter. If Jalen sits this year and eventually leaves early, the redshirt decision doesn’t matter. That’s why it’s a moot point if Jalen leaves early.
Now you look like a fool. If he does not play this season, taking the redshirt, AND he ends up leaving early, he lost the playing time for THIS season. And we lost his services for THIS season. We can’t get that back. He can’t get that back. **His games played are lower.**That makes the decision clearly NOT moot and the decision DOES matter.
Example 1 - He comes back Feb 1 and Self plays him in 13 more games this season. Next season he plays 38 games. The following season he plays 36 games. Turns pro. Total games 87 games played .
Example 2 - He does not play anymore this season (redshirt). Next season he plays 38 games. The following season he plays 36 games. Turns pro. Total games 74 games played.
Not moot. The decision DOES matter even if he turns pro early. He/we lose games. Comprehend?
How hard is this?
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Always fun to see people arguing with each other over conjecture.
HEM, you misunderstood his initial use of “moot”. TexHawk used the term in discussing how Wilson’s potential 5th year impact at KU would change for the team if he left early due to going pro or by transferring out. He suggested if Wilson transferred out then he was likely not going to have a big role on the team that year anyway. Thus, “moot” was limited to the context of whether KU would benefit from Wilson’s 5th year.
Your points are well-taken about all the other possible ways both KU and Wilson could benefit starting this year by not redshirting. But whether he benefits KU 4 years from now would indeed AT THAT POINT be moot if he leaves after 3 no matter the cause.
As always, trying to find understanding rather than leaping to snippiness and name-calling might help.
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@mayjay Thank you for your ability to comprehend my initial post.
@HighEliteMajor if Jalen Wilson never plays year 5 whether at KU or elsewhere because he developed enough to turn pro before then, the redshirt issue is moot because it wouldn’t be necessary regardless of whether he played at any point this season or not. But again, thank you for creating a narrative that wasn’t there by changing the context of a post. Have a nice day.
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@mayjay - Nope, sorry. He said, “If he turns pro first, then KU wouldn’t need to apply for the medical redshirt so it’d be a moot point.”
My example holds. It’s not moot because if he leaves early then a if he sits out this season he loses games. You’re not following and you make the same mistake he did. You ignore the fact that Wilson loses games of the decision is made to sit him out this season (which is the redshirt decision). If we play him he can’t redshirt.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I didn’t change the context of your post.
Tell me, then, if the decision is made to sit him now and not play him (thus the redshirt approach), how is it moot if he loses those games he could have played this season?
The decision has to be made now. Because if you don’t sit him now, you can’t have a redshirt. See … it’s not moot then or now.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@mayjay - Nope, sorry. He said, “If he turns pro first, then KU wouldn’t need to apply for the medical redshirt so it’d be a moot point.”
My example holds. It’s not moot because if he leaves early then a if he sits out this season he loses games. You’re not following and you make the same mistake he did. You ignore the fact that Wilson loses games of the decision is made to sit him out this season (which is the redshirt decision). If we play him he can’t redshirt.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I didn’t change the context of your post.
Tell me, then, if the decision is made to sit him now and not play him (thus the redshirt approach), how is it moot if he loses those games he could have played this season?
The decision has to be made now. Because if you don’t sit him now, you can’t have a redshirt. See … it’s not moot then or now.
Thanks for proving my point that you take people’s comments out of context to create your own narrative. My narrative this entire time has been that if Jalen Wilson left KU early to turn pro, it doesn’t matter if he played this year or not because the redshirt issue would never come up for debate. There would be no “what if’s” about Jalen in 2023-24 because he would already be gone from KU.
If Jalen plays this year and gets to 2023-24, there will always be “what if’s” about sitting Jalen this year.
Been my point the entire time, but keep claiming I’m making some other point when my statements have been the same this entire debate.
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The decision has to be made NOW, not later. By holding him out. That decision costs games. That is the decision. Regardless of when the technical redshirt is granted.
If he leaves early, the decision to redshirt … by not playing him … is not moot.
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Good thing it’s jalens w/his parents and coach’s decision. I’m sure the dr/trainer is helpful too
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One thing I might say , I’m not so sure Jalen will be leaving early. Might very well be that 4 year player. Something that will have to play it’self out I know - -I’m just not really that sure , think he gonna have to have some really good yrs ahead. - -So that’s yet to be determined
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I think this whole debate is moo. It’s like a cows opinion. It doesn’t matter.
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Glad we solved that!
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benshawks08 said:
I think this whole debate is moo. It’s like a cows opinion. It doesn’t matter.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
