Combine Invites
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@justanotherfan he showed up in the USA games
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@Crimsonorblue22 Then disappeared in crimson and blue.
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Read off LJW - where they had been doing strengths and weakness of possible NBA with out players talking to NBA scouts. - Now they came to Devon.
kind of surprising. - This scout said they had him somewhere around the range 0f 30-45 - Tait said he had seen one 2020 mock draft had him at # 29. - Here is what the Scout had to say.
Offensive Strengths: the Scouts 1st entry: - one word : -QUICK - good score of the dribble , Really fast 1st step , good finisher at the rim. Has become better shooter.
Defensive strengths. : Super light on feet , ā -Understands Angles - - is able to locking down matchup on the ball.
Offensive Weakness : Needs to keep working on his Jumper Take better care of the ball. Gets sped up and at times careless - -Lack of size creates problems
Defensive weakness : Limited to who he can guard because of his size , - - Needs to add Strength - -for the grind of NBA schedule , - -take better care of the ball , - lack of size , - - -Needs to be better with his hands & foul prone -become better finisher when has to finish over bigger taller bodies.
Kind of interesting - -got him ranked a little higher then I thought close to 30 - -hmm hope he doesnāt make a mistake. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Donāt see Grimes on any mock drafts ???
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Blown said:
Donāt see Grimes on any mock drafts ???
The 2nd round is a crapshoot. Heāll make someoneās summer league team and maybe get a G-Leauge contract. Itās a mighty fall.
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Blown said:
Donāt see Grimes on any mock drafts ???
Well I donāt think he will make a roster. - -BUT like I said he DID sign a 3 yr 158 million - -deal with the barber Shop Quartet - we was stated that was the highest paid to anyone in the history of the franchise. - - -so there is a nice little chunk of green for him
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BeddieKU23 said:
Well I guess going to KU still gives a kid the exposure to get these chances despite a poor season. If heās at any other school not named Duke/UK/UNC heās not invited.
Good luck to the kid. The success rate for these types is extremely low
Even though KU players have had mixed results in the league, it is well reported that most NBA teams count KU on a resume as being a very positive thing. What they see as paramount is ādefensive fundamentals.ā
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Grimesā future depends on what he does at the combine. Play well, and heās a first rounder. Play poorly, he is hoping to catch on with a summer league team.
Dotson will probably be back at KU. Heās still just a bit too small. I could see him being banged up even as a rookie backup from the size and contact he would have to take.
Dedric is probably a second rounder that makes someoneās roster as a small ball 5. I could see him having success sliding up to the 5 because heās so efficient and is a reliable rebounder even without elite athleticism. Heās still not going to be great defensively, but playing the 5 (and adding some strength) could help him translate that into a career. With the direction the NBA is heading, a 6-9 5 man that can rebound, handle the ball, shoot from the perimeter and pass effectively is a nice weapon. He wonāt be a star, but heās a nice piece to have stashed on your bench.
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@jayballer73 isnāt it 158$ not 158 million?
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@BeddieKU23 not a good look for self to take a ālottery pickā and ācoachā him out of the second round. Easy negative recruitment tactic.
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Blown said:
@jayballer73 isnāt it 158$ not 158 million?
no article said 3 year 158 million - - OH CRAP wait a minute - -went back an re-read - - your right I apologize just some bogus funny story - - -dam Iām getting old - -got the ol wool pulled over my bad eye lol - - was talking about playing 4-5 and being able to be Baritone and all that - - my bad lol ā ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Blown said:
@BeddieKU23 not a good look for self to take a ālottery pickā and ācoachā him out of the second round. Easy negative recruitment tactic.
There will always be guys like Grimes that underachieve at KU and other schools. Devon Dotsonās success as a freshman makes it a wash. Its up the player in the end
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https://twitter.com/draftexpress/status/1128848456863375360?s=21
Anyone remember seeing that last year?!? WTF
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Grimes combine measurements are not great
6ā4" barefoot, 6ā5.25 in shoes, 8ā4.5" standing reach, 6ā7.75" wingspan, 209.6 pounds, 8.4% body fat
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BShark said:
Grimes combine measurements are not great
6ā4" barefoot, 6ā5.25 in shoes, 8ā4.5" standing reach, 6ā7.75" wingspan, 209.6 pounds, 8.4% body fat
He measures out as a PG moreso that a SG. His reach is average for his size, but he would struggle against bigger wing players.
The only number that is troubling is that body fat. You would like to see that down closer to 6%.
The bigger measurements are going to be his vertical and strength measurements.
Grimesā standing reach is equal to Jarrett Culver.
Also, Bol Bolās standing reach is a ridiculous 9ā7.75" Tacko Fallās is 10ā2.25". Jay Bilas is hyperventilating somewhere.
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@justanotherfan He was 180 pounds pre-KU, kind of troubling.
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@BShark 30 lbs more.
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@Woodrow ya just looks different when heās guarded. And trying to fit into offensive scheme.
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Grimes is playing now
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justanotherfan said:
Grimesā future depends on what he does at the combine. Play well, and heās a first rounder. Play poorly, he is hoping to catch on with a summer league team.
Dotson will probably be back at KU. Heās still just a bit too small. I could see him being banged up even as a rookie backup from the size and contact he would have to take.
Dedric is probably a second rounder that makes someoneās roster as a small ball 5. I could see him having success sliding up to the 5 because heās so efficient and is a reliable rebounder even without elite athleticism. Heās still not going to be great defensively, but playing the 5 (and adding some strength) could help him translate that into a career. With the direction the NBA is heading, a 6-9 5 man that can rebound, handle the ball, shoot from the perimeter and pass effectively is a nice weapon. He wonāt be a star, but heās a nice piece to have stashed on your bench.
I think that Grimes, at this point, will be best served to play overseas.
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So far in his game, Grimes is 3-6, including 1-3 from 3PT, 2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 turnover. 7 points in the first half.
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@justanotherfan are you watching? I canāt tell much, not showing much of game.
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2 rebounds? Wow, thatās more rebounds than he got in almost one-third of our games.
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@justanotherfan thx! Better than what I saw. Like to just watch the game instead of the interviews
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Grimes finished with 9 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and 2 turnovers.
Without having seen the actual game, I canāt put that performance into any real context.
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Dotson was one of the few players at the combine that didnt hire an agent. Bodes well for him returning you would think
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Bilas seems to think he did good
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Other notes from physical testing:
Dotson has the fastest lane shuttle so far (2.8 seconds). His standing vertical and max vert (30 and 38.5 inches) are very solid for a guy his size.
Grimes did not do well in the leaping department. A disappointing 27.5 in the standing vert, and just 36 in the max. Grimes has not run yet.
No one has bench press numbers yet.
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D dot doing well in game
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Bobby Marks was just on TV saying Q may have potentially raised his stock saying Grimes 19 minutes in game 1 were better then his 6 months in Lawrence.
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JEFF GOODMAN@GOODMANHOOPS 10M KANSAS QUENTIN GRIMES SAID HE IS STILL KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN AND IS UNDECIDED WHETHER TO RETURN TO LAWRENCE OR REMAIN IN THE NBA DRAFT,
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
JEFF GOODMAN@GOODMANHOOPS 10M KANSAS QUENTIN GRIMES SAID HE IS STILL KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN AND IS UNDECIDED WHETHER TO RETURN TO LAWRENCE OR REMAIN IN THE NBA DRAFT,
It would be good to take him back if R.J. bolts overseas.
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@BeddieKU23 puzzled me, didnāt see anything to great!
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You think heās keeping up w/his classes?
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Well this would be a truly bizarre development. He might not be getting great feedback thereā¦
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BShark said:
Well this would be a truly bizarre development. He might not be getting great feedback thereā¦
Shocking to no one but him apparently
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@BeddieKU23 Being honest here Iād rather have RJ than Grimes back and normally I am fairly big on experience.
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So would he be welcomed back. - -he declared for the NBA - -hired an agent , heard his folks wasnāt really that happy in his one year here about the whole KU thing - -saying it was a fluke of a yr - -not the real Quentin.
So if you were Coach - -would you welcome him back with the possibility of RJ - or would you tell him he doesnāt have a scholi to come back to? - -he had been recruited over?
I myself if it came down to Quentin - or RJ - -Iād take RJ in a heartbeat. - and please donāt come at me with the BS of you would rather have a Soph Grimes to a Fr OAD in this case -the talent level between these two is not even close Quentin made his choice - I can promise you that when he declared he was 100% that he was gone - - everyone here thought he was gone whether he should be or not. - Canāt count how many times Iāve heard people here say Quentin is GONE.
Sorry but If RJ said he wanted to come - then sorry but your ship sailed when you declared - -Ku can not decide NOT to recruit just because some kid doesnāt know whether he is gone or not - -KU has to recruit for the future - canāt stand pat and wait - -thatās a recipe for diaster. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Iād absolutely take a motivated and down to Earth Grimes back in a heart beat. As good as landing RJ imo.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Iād absolutely take a motivated and down to Earth Grimes back in a heart beat. As good as landing RJ imo.
Iām sorry buddy
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@Kcmatt7 why not both?
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I have no idea who is better. I just know OADās disappoint here.
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I donāt think he wants to be here, so weird! If a nba guy thinks he did well today, d dot should go first round!
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Really want Dotson back. Would actually be a little let down if Grimes comes back to clutter up the court again after what he showed us last season.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
D dot doing well in game
Not that I want him to do poorly, but ā¦
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@HighEliteMajor he did miss 2 threes after that, probably his downfall.
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I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this oneā¦
Anyway, Dotsonās (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
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BShark said:
I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this oneā¦
Anyway, Dotsonās (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
An NBA scout listed that in his Negatives , that an how he needs to reduce his TOāS - getās sped up - - foul prone - -and be able to create his own shot- he will be back
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@BShark so heās going to grow in a year?
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