Combine Invites
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BeddieKU23 said:
Well I guess going to KU still gives a kid the exposure to get these chances despite a poor season. If he’s at any other school not named Duke/UK/UNC he’s not invited.
Good luck to the kid. The success rate for these types is extremely low
Even though KU players have had mixed results in the league, it is well reported that most NBA teams count KU on a resume as being a very positive thing. What they see as paramount is “defensive fundamentals.”
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Grimes’ future depends on what he does at the combine. Play well, and he’s a first rounder. Play poorly, he is hoping to catch on with a summer league team.
Dotson will probably be back at KU. He’s still just a bit too small. I could see him being banged up even as a rookie backup from the size and contact he would have to take.
Dedric is probably a second rounder that makes someone’s roster as a small ball 5. I could see him having success sliding up to the 5 because he’s so efficient and is a reliable rebounder even without elite athleticism. He’s still not going to be great defensively, but playing the 5 (and adding some strength) could help him translate that into a career. With the direction the NBA is heading, a 6-9 5 man that can rebound, handle the ball, shoot from the perimeter and pass effectively is a nice weapon. He won’t be a star, but he’s a nice piece to have stashed on your bench.
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@jayballer73 isn’t it 158$ not 158 million?
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@BeddieKU23 not a good look for self to take a “lottery pick” and “coach” him out of the second round. Easy negative recruitment tactic.
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Blown said:
@jayballer73 isn’t it 158$ not 158 million?
no article said 3 year 158 million - - OH CRAP wait a minute - -went back an re-read - - your right I apologize just some bogus funny story - - -dam I’m getting old - -got the ol wool pulled over my bad eye lol - - was talking about playing 4-5 and being able to be Baritone and all that - - my bad lol – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Blown said:
@BeddieKU23 not a good look for self to take a “lottery pick” and “coach” him out of the second round. Easy negative recruitment tactic.
There will always be guys like Grimes that underachieve at KU and other schools. Devon Dotson’s success as a freshman makes it a wash. Its up the player in the end
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https://twitter.com/draftexpress/status/1128848456863375360?s=21
Anyone remember seeing that last year?!? WTF
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Grimes combine measurements are not great
6’4" barefoot, 6’5.25 in shoes, 8’4.5" standing reach, 6’7.75" wingspan, 209.6 pounds, 8.4% body fat
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BShark said:
Grimes combine measurements are not great
6’4" barefoot, 6’5.25 in shoes, 8’4.5" standing reach, 6’7.75" wingspan, 209.6 pounds, 8.4% body fat
He measures out as a PG moreso that a SG. His reach is average for his size, but he would struggle against bigger wing players.
The only number that is troubling is that body fat. You would like to see that down closer to 6%.
The bigger measurements are going to be his vertical and strength measurements.
Grimes’ standing reach is equal to Jarrett Culver.
Also, Bol Bol’s standing reach is a ridiculous 9’7.75" Tacko Fall’s is 10’2.25". Jay Bilas is hyperventilating somewhere.
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@justanotherfan He was 180 pounds pre-KU, kind of troubling.
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@BShark 30 lbs more.
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@Woodrow ya just looks different when he’s guarded. And trying to fit into offensive scheme.
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Grimes is playing now
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justanotherfan said:
Grimes’ future depends on what he does at the combine. Play well, and he’s a first rounder. Play poorly, he is hoping to catch on with a summer league team.
Dotson will probably be back at KU. He’s still just a bit too small. I could see him being banged up even as a rookie backup from the size and contact he would have to take.
Dedric is probably a second rounder that makes someone’s roster as a small ball 5. I could see him having success sliding up to the 5 because he’s so efficient and is a reliable rebounder even without elite athleticism. He’s still not going to be great defensively, but playing the 5 (and adding some strength) could help him translate that into a career. With the direction the NBA is heading, a 6-9 5 man that can rebound, handle the ball, shoot from the perimeter and pass effectively is a nice weapon. He won’t be a star, but he’s a nice piece to have stashed on your bench.
I think that Grimes, at this point, will be best served to play overseas.
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So far in his game, Grimes is 3-6, including 1-3 from 3PT, 2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 turnover. 7 points in the first half.
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@justanotherfan are you watching? I can’t tell much, not showing much of game.
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2 rebounds? Wow, that’s more rebounds than he got in almost one-third of our games.
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@justanotherfan thx! Better than what I saw. Like to just watch the game instead of the interviews
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Grimes finished with 9 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and 2 turnovers.
Without having seen the actual game, I can’t put that performance into any real context.
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Dotson was one of the few players at the combine that didnt hire an agent. Bodes well for him returning you would think
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Bilas seems to think he did good
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Other notes from physical testing:
Dotson has the fastest lane shuttle so far (2.8 seconds). His standing vertical and max vert (30 and 38.5 inches) are very solid for a guy his size.
Grimes did not do well in the leaping department. A disappointing 27.5 in the standing vert, and just 36 in the max. Grimes has not run yet.
No one has bench press numbers yet.
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D dot doing well in game
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Bobby Marks was just on TV saying Q may have potentially raised his stock saying Grimes 19 minutes in game 1 were better then his 6 months in Lawrence.
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JEFF GOODMAN@GOODMANHOOPS 10M KANSAS QUENTIN GRIMES SAID HE IS STILL KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN AND IS UNDECIDED WHETHER TO RETURN TO LAWRENCE OR REMAIN IN THE NBA DRAFT,
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
JEFF GOODMAN@GOODMANHOOPS 10M KANSAS QUENTIN GRIMES SAID HE IS STILL KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN AND IS UNDECIDED WHETHER TO RETURN TO LAWRENCE OR REMAIN IN THE NBA DRAFT,
It would be good to take him back if R.J. bolts overseas.
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@BeddieKU23 puzzled me, didn’t see anything to great!
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You think he’s keeping up w/his classes?
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Well this would be a truly bizarre development. He might not be getting great feedback there…
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BShark said:
Well this would be a truly bizarre development. He might not be getting great feedback there…
Shocking to no one but him apparently
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@BeddieKU23 Being honest here I’d rather have RJ than Grimes back and normally I am fairly big on experience.
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So would he be welcomed back. - -he declared for the NBA - -hired an agent , heard his folks wasn’t really that happy in his one year here about the whole KU thing - -saying it was a fluke of a yr - -not the real Quentin.
So if you were Coach - -would you welcome him back with the possibility of RJ - or would you tell him he doesn’t have a scholi to come back to? - -he had been recruited over?
I myself if it came down to Quentin - or RJ - -I’d take RJ in a heartbeat. - and please don’t come at me with the BS of you would rather have a Soph Grimes to a Fr OAD in this case -the talent level between these two is not even close Quentin made his choice - I can promise you that when he declared he was 100% that he was gone - - everyone here thought he was gone whether he should be or not. - Can’t count how many times I’ve heard people here say Quentin is GONE.
Sorry but If RJ said he wanted to come - then sorry but your ship sailed when you declared - -Ku can not decide NOT to recruit just because some kid doesn’t know whether he is gone or not - -KU has to recruit for the future - can’t stand pat and wait - -that’s a recipe for diaster. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I’d absolutely take a motivated and down to Earth Grimes back in a heart beat. As good as landing RJ imo.
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Kcmatt7 said:
I’d absolutely take a motivated and down to Earth Grimes back in a heart beat. As good as landing RJ imo.
I’m sorry buddy
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@Kcmatt7 why not both?
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I have no idea who is better. I just know OAD’s disappoint here.
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I don’t think he wants to be here, so weird! If a nba guy thinks he did well today, d dot should go first round!
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Really want Dotson back. Would actually be a little let down if Grimes comes back to clutter up the court again after what he showed us last season.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
D dot doing well in game
Not that I want him to do poorly, but …
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@HighEliteMajor he did miss 2 threes after that, probably his downfall.
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I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this one…
Anyway, Dotson’s (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
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BShark said:
I kinda want to post this in two threads since it came up twice but I picked this one…
Anyway, Dotson’s (lack of) height should keep him at KU for one more year.
An NBA scout listed that in his Negatives , that an how he needs to reduce his TO’S - get’s sped up - - foul prone - -and be able to create his own shot- he will be back
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@BShark so he’s going to grow in a year?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark so he’s going to grow in a year?
️Lol. He’s just gonna go anyway, if he doesn’t now…
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justanotherfan said:
Other notes from physical testing:
Dotson has the fastest lane shuttle so far (2.8 seconds). His standing vertical and max vert (30 and 38.5 inches) are very solid for a guy his size.
Grimes did not do well in the leaping department. A disappointing 27.5 in the standing vert, and just 36 in the max. Grimes has not run yet.
Compare that to National POY Frank Mason’s 41 inch vert who went second round … If Dotson legit wants to go, would he be fine leaving as a second rounder?
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Not sure of Frank’s shuttle.
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This is what pisses me off about KUBuckets. The other day someone said Grimes is gone, like it was a fact. I thought it was true. Now I’m reading here about Grimes could be back. Knock it off people! Stop acting like know it alls and stating your wild speculations as fact. I’m sure it happens at other sites, but I don’t read other sites. This is where I get my KU news. I don’t go wandering through social media and a zillion other sites like some of ya’ll which is fine. But stop making these statements. If Grimes does come back he’s the second player to come back that I’ve read on these pages, Doke being the other.
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@wissox fwiw all the media pundits thought and reported as if Grimes was gone. All of them. This is a complete change of heart (speculation alert) likely based upon poor feedback at the combine. ie he’s , not that great of a shot, and fat.
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@dylans That only makes me feel slightly better
