Kicking Players Off The Team Game Thread
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Fuck you espn
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Cutawy
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PUKE game hasn’t even started. What a joke.
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If I were a walk-on I’d be pissed Charlie has a scholarship
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@Bwag just cause we have a chance
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YOU BASTARDS! COULDN’T WAIT ONE DAMN MINUTE TO SWITCH?
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Because we really need to see the Duke students camping out. Their damn game hasn’t even started yet!
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Then we miss part of our game for a commercial?
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Disgusting ESPN, disgusting.
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Check out @approxinfinity’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/approxinfinity/status/1096908874056167426?s=09
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ESPN sucks
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KU is going to win at least a share the Big 12 title this year.
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We aren’t Dook to ESPN obviously
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@kjayhawks Thank God.
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They make us wait 20 minutes in a complete blow out, then they preempt us…whisk us off the stage. It’s revealing and pathetic.
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11-0 run by WVU to end the game lol
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@Kcmatt7 that’s what that drive into 3 players looked like. Once Garrett returns he shouldn’t see the floor in all honesty.
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kjayhawks said:
@Kcmatt7 that’s what that drive into 3 players looked like. Once Garrett returns he shouldn’t see the floor in all honesty.
Garrett is better than Grimes. It’s not close.
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kjayhawks said:
@Kcmatt7 that’s what that drive into 3 players looked like. Once Garrett returns he shouldn’t see the floor in all honesty.
Just flat wrong.
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Love the game from KJ today, he was solid. Dotson with 15/5/8, good stuff.
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@BShark And only 2 TOs
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BShark said:
Love the game from KJ today, he was solid. Dotson with 15/5/8, good stuff.
just saying I don’t think KJ is that bad - -he has limited minutes until injuries and player leaving - for the most part he had been in on mop up time - -I think he is showing he can help. – I just keep looking back when he was at Memphis had pretty solid numbers.
I realize Memphis is not Big 12 - still - he is not that bad - like the looks of the team - showing that different look - -seems like players are showing up a little more
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@BShark @Texas-Hawk-10 We were talking about Moore, not grimes guys
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kjayhawks said:
@BShark @Texas-Hawk-10 We were talking about Moore, not grimes guys
Oh you were saying Chuck shouldn’t see the floor. That makes perfect sense, I agree.
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We shoot 53 % from the field - - 8-20 from the 3 - - and 14-18 from the line - I can live with those numbers
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Apparently someone on the duk game just referred to NCState as “that other team from the triangle”.
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kjayhawks said:
@BShark @Texas-Hawk-10 We were talking about Moore, not grimes guys
Not how it came across, but agreed. Moore should foul trouble and mop up minutes.
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@BShark Grimes has seemed way more engaged here lately, he just isn’t hitting shots. He was 0-4 from distance and 3 had no one with in 5 feet of him. I’m still sticking with my thoughts earlier in the year that he maybe the key to our season. He has to be this years Newman for us to make any type of run IMO. I don’t wanna harp on him to bad as I said I think he’s more in the game just needs to hit shots and stop with the TOs (lead team with 4 today).
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I’m really starting to like this David/Mitch combo at the 5. I’ve been one of the guys screaming for Dave to get more minutes all season and think we are seeing it start to it pay off. He had some TOs again today but to me looks more comfortable every game he’s in. Nice to see Dedric didn’t have to carry us for once but still had a solid game.
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@kjayhawks This definitely felt like one of Dave’s better games.
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@kjayhawks Grimes needs to focus on other things besides shooting. His defense is still really bad and his rebounding his bad for a guard his size. He is also a subpar passer right now. With a week until our next game, I’d have Grimes focus exclusively on one of those 3 things for Tech.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Very true, he’s been more engaged but still has several things to work on. Hopefully Garrett is able to practice in a day or two and this group has a good week going into Saturday.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 KJ had a nice game today. I think KJ could be the difference down the stretch. Q’s continued lack of success may be impossible for him to overcome.
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I’m starting to think a lineup of Dot/ Grimes or Garrett/Ochai/KJ/Big Dave might be a really good lineup for next year.
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Do we want to win games, or play Grimes? It’s really that simple. KJ was the superior player today. Garrett will be the superior player when he returns. It’s mid-February.
Grimes needs to come off the bench. Period. This isn’t even a question now. If he would be permanently damaged because he’s so fragile psychologically, or he’d transfer, or whatever, so what.
This is the most flexible, softest I’ve seen Self with a player (not sure of the right term). But it’s not patience. This isn’t patience. It’s something a little twisted … a sadomasochistic patience. Painful to all involved.
If Grimes’ switch goes on in a few weeks, this will be the most impressive bit of “letting a player develop” I’ve ever seen.
I love the idea of letting a player develop. But I’m not seeing any hints of development or progress. Am I wrong?
And I’m really liking Dave/Mitch at the 5, as well (@kjayhawks). Lot of activity. And man, we say this a lot, but Mitch is incredible blocking shots. He’s one of the best I’ve ever seen.
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Chris beard pissed at the dock move! Love that guy!
https://twitter.com/phogadvisory/status/1096900445799211008?s=21
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I think Q should play 10 - 15 minutes a game unless he catches fire or something. He just didn’t figure it out, and time is up. His shot is not even close. I said two games ago during a game chat that anything he gives the team from then on would be a bonus and that is still the case.
Imstillmthinkmthey need to win out for a share which isn’t likely, but Self needs to stop dicking around with Q.
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@JonRothstein Bill Self is the Ric Flair of the Big 12 and to be the man, you’ve got to beat the man. The streak is still alive — for now.
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@HighEliteMajor you are not wrong.
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@HighEliteMajor It is very interesting that Self has pretty much said he’s starting and that’s that. Everyone says its for recruiting, which is silly to me, lets show guys you can be crap with no consequences. I worry that some of the other guys that have shown up for more than 1 game are starting to get mad. IMO Garrett should start ahead of Grimes when he is able to go. I really don’t want to go back to a 4 guard line up at this point so hopefully self doesn’t take Dave out of the line up. I’d rather Garrett come off the bench than that.
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Bill must be seeing something out of Grimes. It’s unlike him to play a struggling freshman. It makes me think there is still hope for Grimes this season.
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@Kcmatt7 Maybe Adidas gave him a big check and we have to keep him quiet. Sadly that’s one of few logical explanations but at this point he could be the most overrated recruit we have ever had, people forget he was #8 in the country. To that in perspective Dotson was #20 and Ochai was a whopping #145. This is why I laugh when people say NBA draft this season for him. He’s maybe, maybe the 6th best player on this team.
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kjayhawks said:
I’m really starting to like this David/Mitch combo at the 5. I’ve been one of the guys screaming for Dave to get more minutes all season and think we are seeing it start to it pay off. He had some TOs again today but to me looks more comfortable every game he’s in. Nice to see Dedric didn’t have to carry us for once but still had a solid game.
I agree with ya - - - -The combination of Mitch & Dave - nothing super from them but you put the two together get like 15 points combined – -right at 10 rebounds - - like 5 blocks a charge from guess who -a couple of steals ( David ) - really liking Coach Pull Dedric out away - and like they say opening the lane for Devon - spreading out - - Dedric hitting a lot better pct from 3 for Dedric - -love it
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Question. When Marcus comes back - -does this effect Dave and Mitch in any way shape or Form? in the rotation ? - -for me - - I think w just need to roll with the way we are right now – Keep that starting line up just like it is – rotate your players just like you have been - -Just slide Marcus in the rotation. - -I would hate to think KJ minutes gets cut when Marcus returns - let Marcus come off the Bench right along with KJ - - - Marcus can play the 2 or 3- - - lets roll with what we got as they are. - -ROC CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 It’s time to pull the rip cord- start Marcus, and have Grimes come off the bench. I’m not sure that it would hurt our shooting percent- it might even help it.
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@KUSTEVE Garrett is better in every category besides 3 point shooting %. After today I think KJ may have a better 3 point % and he is better per minutes than Grimes by a lot. They both aren’t great on defense lol. I’d say regardless of if Grimes starts or not he shouldn’t be playing more than 15 minutes a game.
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@HighEliteMajor I have to agree. At this point the Grimes experiment as a starter should be over.
The kid’s shot is erratic. I dont see a confidence issue on his shot. I see a guy incapable of playing off ball. A player who is not comfortable with the catch and shoot and needs reps reps reps and more reps. Hell, I see a kid who might have benefited tremendously from a redshirt in an alternate universe. And with the emergency of Agbaji and Devon in their current form, what good is a wing who can’t shoot and is slow on D? Devon, Agbaji and Garrett are all superior to Grimes in every way, save maybe one small point which is at this point splitting hairs. I believe Grimes is a superior passer (slightly) to Agbaji, but who cares? Earlier I was willing to see Grimes at point, but Devon is just too good there now. All ships have sailed on the Grimes experiment.
Charlie has even outplayed Grimes recently. I would not be shocked by a Q transfer in the off-season.
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Dotson/Ochai/KJ/Dedric/Big Dave …I think that would be the sweet spot.
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@approxinfinity I don’t get the whole he can’t play without the ball thing. He was recruited as a SG, he is listed on every site as an SG that I can find. I just watched some of his HS film, he played off the ball a plenty, he wasn’t their primary ball handler from what I’ve seen. His story on everything I read was streaky shot and lack of effort were his main issues and there both very evident at this time. I think he just he isn’t near the athlete it looked like in HS. I realize was good for the USA team deal in the summer but the competition in that was mostly laughable. Most high level high school wouldn’t have had trouble with more than 1 or 2 teams in that. Kinda like us kicking butt in Korea all but 2 games against Pros.
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@kjayhawks you’ve done more recent research on him than I have. I was just going on the fact that when he has ball and steps into his shot or gets hit in the chest he can shoot. When he has to turn and shoot he can’t hit anything. Its a stark difference.
