Final Four bound!!!
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@Blown CBSSPORTS Network is showing replays of games. KU- Duke is on now (11:38 pm Monday). 45 secs before halftime. They are doing them throughout the week but they don’t announce which games.
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@truehawk93 - AlaMODE! AlaMODE! With sprinkles on top. Just ask Barkley…
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@Blown https://www.diehards.com/kansas/bill-self-locker-room-kansas-basketball-duke-final-four-elite-eight
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Most model’s I’ve seen are giving KU less then 40% chance of winning. Big whoop Models. We got this
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Until recently Villanova’s defense really wasn’t that good. I’ve seen a lot of commentators lately saying how good their defense has been the last month or so. They have been good no doubt but Self can absolutely game-plan to beat them.
It’s the #1 O vs the #5 O. According to Kenpom this is the 2nd best offensive team in the last 15 years…We will have to have something for them
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@BeddieKU23 Get Spellman or Paschall in foul trouble early, and I think this game changes.
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@Kcmatt7 Paschall is pretty good. I remember KU was interested.
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@BShark Just the perfect 5th guy to have on the floor. Unselfish. Does the dirty work. But also capable of scoring when he is open. I will be interested to see if Self puts Doke on Paschall an Svi on Spellman. We can double Spellman if we need to. He is not a great passer.
I would honestly feed Doke like every possession for the first 4 minutes and see if Spellman can keep from fouling. Or even just run pick and roll with Doke and see if you can get a blocking foul on him. Either way, my goal is to get him out of the game as fast as possible.
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very good point. I would try and get one of their guards as well. Either Brunson or Bridges would really change the way they play
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Does this mean Malik is going to enter the draft for sure?
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@BucknellJayhawk3 Malik isn’t staying.
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@BeddieKU23 Both have had issues several times this season. Whoever is guarding Newman may have a tough time staying out of trouble with the way he has been driving the ball. Maybe a couple of DG head flops lol.
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I’d imagine Jay Wright will be game planning for Newman. I hope Newman rises to the occasion once again. I read from some nova people they think Bridges might cover him with his length and 7’2 wingspan.
One thing we haven’t mentioned yet is how will these teams shoot in the Dome? Both so dependent on 3 point shooting… Whoever makes em likely going to win.
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@BeddieKU23 I’d put Bridges on him if I were them, no doubt about it. Newman has been scoring at 3 levels though, so good luck to whoever is guarding him.
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@BeddieKU23 Self has a WHOLE week to prepare his team. I like our chances!
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If Nova keys on Malik then Devonte goes off. I really think Lightfoot will have an impact on this game. His speed and recovery on D vs smaller guys is better than Silvio.
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@Ziggyhawk Watching that does not get old!
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Jayhawk-in-OKC said:
@BeddieKU23 Self has a WHOLE week to prepare his team. I like our chances!
Me too. A week to prepare against Nova this time around makes a big difference.
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@BigBad I am with you, Final Four is Devontae time!
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@Ziggyhawk Thanks for posting that recap Zig!! That was GREAT!!
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Gorilla72 said:
@truehawk93 - AlaMODE! AlaMODE! With sprinkles on top. Just ask Barkley…
…yeah, they really make an azz of him on those commercials, but it pays well. He doesn’t give a ratz azz what people think either.
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I was checking the draft board and Newman is no where to be found, at all. However, they have the Kentucky losers on there. They also touted a dook player scoring 20+ points a game. They even titled one of the draft boards: Watch a few in the F4…all Nova and Michigan. Damn the bias.
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@BeddieKU23 Doke on Paschall however is a much better matchup for Doke because Paschall shoots only 33% from 3.
Paschall is trash, and he’s lazy. I watched him foul TT in the 2d half because he can’t play D. He starts grabbing and pushing to make up for his fat azz.
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For a Lark, I googled “Villanova Fan Site” - People are the same all over,
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So, Malik is going to the Final 4, and will play Saturday. Mississippi State, from whence he came, plays in a Final 4 tonight. NIT, of course, but gosh, I bet he regrets transfering since they are getting there first–sort of.
Meanwhile, Dwight and W Ky are in a tight (1 pt) game in the 4th quarter against Utah.
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@wrwlumpy My favorite: “Duke Fan here - you guys should win by 10-15. All you have to do is contain Graham and Newman and you win.” Response: " OK then. I see you guys were able to do that. Thanks for the tip. Seems Bill has K’s number" Or something like that. But it was funny.
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WKU lost tonight, but Coleby had a double/double. Their coach (Stansbury) said, ‘Sometimes when you shoot a lot of 3s and make some, it can be fool’s gold a little bit. That’s not our strength,’’ Stansbury said.
Fool’s gold! Channeling HCBS!
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truehawk93 said:
@BeddieKU23 Doke on Paschall however is a much better matchup for Doke because Paschall shoots only 33% from 3.
Paschall is trash, and he’s lazy. I watched him foul TT in the 2d half because he can’t play D. He starts grabbing and pushing to make up for his fat azz.
Yes I hope that’s the matchup Doke on Paschall, Svi on Spellman. We’ll see Villanova has gotten away with a lot of physical play in the tourney so far
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@Gorilla72 I noticed in the 4th that a couple of their guards forgot about passing and patiently waiting for open shots, and forced “hero” 3 pt attempts. When they tried to get it inside they did pretty well.
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How does Villanova stop Dok on offense? If Dok doesn’t put himself on the bench, Dok is KU’s most likely difference maker. Both Spellman and Paschall at 6’9’’ give up heighth, but also close to 40 lbs. to the big guy.
Given the masterful defensive strategy employed by Coach Self to slow down Bagley, I can’t wait to see how coach utilizes Dok’s size advantage at our offensive end. Duke did a great job of defending the entry passes to the post, but Villy’s front line doesn’t have the same athleticism we saw with Duke. Saturday just can’t get here soon enough for me. RCJH
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@Ziggyhawk recap video made my day!
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@stoptheflop “How does Villanova stop Dok on offense?”
There is an ironic hint at the end of your own user name… Watch their skinnier guys sprawling all over.
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We definitely need Doke to be disciplined out there on Saturday. He’s been rather out of control this tournament with fouls.
If I was Jay Wright I would almost assume Doke is going to take himself out of the game without them having to do anything differently against him. If Doke somehow can stay in the game for long stretches without fouling then that’s where Wright probably has to adjust. Doke I believe has only scored on 2-3 ISO plays this tournament between fouls and his knee. Spellman and Paschall are big dudes that can hold their own. They might not be able to stop Doke (but who can when he’s on his game) so Nova will have to adjust to that if he’s able to get inside position for easy baskets. I would imagine they will try and double him quickly on post entries or try and steal the ball when he backs his man down and goes for that right shoulder bunny. A very underrated aspect of Doke in the past month has been his passing and his awareness looking for cutters (most likely Vick or Garrett) when he receives the ball. That has been a positive addition to his game that really wasn’t there earlier in the season. In High School I’m not even sure he knew how to pass the ball so he’s made gigantic strides in that area.
One way KU can potentially use Doke’s size advantage and keep Nova’s defense from collapsing is having Svi or Newman always on the side Doke may post up on. That way Nova is unlikely to drop the guard down to double because you can’t leave Svi or Newman open. This could give Doke room to operate 1 on 1 or if that guard collapses that leaves one of our deadly outside shooters open.
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@stoptheflop Yeah, I know! I just posted again about the match up advantage we have with Doke vs 'Nova
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Well going to go see the boys take off here in Topeka this afternoon from the Airport - - Hopefully give them ROCK CHALK LUCK - -they are leaving Lawrence around 2:30 I think and head to Topeka - -I’ll be there - -ROCK CHALKALL DAY LONG BABY
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Pretty cool that all 4 Final Four teams won their conference tournaments.
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I thought you would enjoy it knowing how clueless the so called “experts” have been and still are…
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And here are some interesting Conference stats which will surprise many of you…
- Kansas has punched its ticket to the Final Four, marking the Big 12’s ninth appearance since inception. The Conference has played in 11 Final Four games (4-7) with a national championship by the Jayhawks in 2008.
- The Big 12 is the only conference in 2017-18 to place a team in the CFP national semifinals (Oklahoma) and the Final Four (Kansas).
- The 12 wins by the Big 12 in this year’s NCAA Championship are tied for the most of any conference (ACC).
- For the third season in Big 12 history and the first time with a 10-member league, three teams played in the Elite Eight with Kansas, Kansas State and Texas Tech. Other seasons with three Elite Eight teams include 2002 and 2003.
- The Big 12 has placed at least two teams in the regional fi nals in six of the past 1 NCAA Championships, including this season (2008, ‘09, ‘10, ‘12, ‘16, ‘18). Thirteen times in the last 16 years at least one conference squad has advanced to the Elite Eight.
- The Big 12 has had 25 regional finalists in the past 16 years - the most of any conference during that span.
- Big 12 men’s basketball led the nation with 40 percent of its teams advancing to the Regional semifinals. Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech and West Virginia danced to the Sweet 16 as the Big 12 made up one-fourth of the field.
- This season marked just the second time in Conference history for four teams to advance to the Sweet 16 with the first occurring in 2002 when the league had 12 teams.
- For the third-consecutive season and the eighth time overall, the Big 12 had at least three teams in the Regional semifinals. The Big 12 has had at least one Sweet 16 team in all but one year in Conference history, with multiple teams 15 times.
- The Big 12 has 10 appearances in the Regional semifinals since the 2016 tournament, one less than the top spot of 11. Seventy percent of Big 12 teams have advanced to a Sweet 16 within the last three seasons - Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and West Virginia.
- For the first time in Conference history, the Big 12 sent 90 percent of its men’s basketball teams to postseason play with seven in the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship and two in the National Invitation Tournament.
- The Big 12 is the first league since at least 1996-97 to accomplish the feat of 90 percent of its teams in postseason.
- The Big 12 led the nation with 70 percent of teams in the NCAA Championship. It marked the fifth time (2010, 2014, 2015, 2016) in Conference history that the league had seven NCAA bids and the fourth since the Big 12 became a 10-member league in 2011-12.
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Every bucket from the Duke game in 10 minutes…
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@StLJhawk I made a similar collection of every bucket Danny scored in the 88 championship game When i worked for the cbs affiliate in Waco. Man i wish i still had that tape.
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@BeddieKU23 I think Doke and lightfoot will be very important because I just don’t see how Doke will be able to guard a man on the perimeter.
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We have all week to prepare for Villanova. The best team advances.
Kansas 79
Villanova 72
Monday is coming.
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@HighEliteMajor I love the idea of having more time to prepare. The 2016 game was on the short turn around and Nova’s game plan was tough for us.
That said, KU made that game very very tough for Nova and we were in control in the 2nd half at times. Nova was averaging 80-90 points a game in the tournament and we held them far below that clip. Even with Perry Ellis having possibly his worst post season game of his career, Wayne chucking airballs and a few foul calls not going our way we were still up 6 late with a 3 that rimmed out by Wayne that could have put us up 9. I think it is easy for us to forget that Bill put together one hell of a gameplan against Nova as well. The momentum got away from us late and it just didn’t work out and that Nova team went on to win the entire thing and sent numerous guys to the NBA. This is not a game that I look back on with the same sense of despair and anguish as the Michigan, VCU or Oregon losses. I expect a similarly great strategy from Bill tomorrow night as he had for Nova in 2016 and agree that we win by 5-7 points in a game that is in the 70’s.
RCJH.
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Was looking at the stats from the 2016 KU Nova game. I remember our 3pt was bad that game but didn’t realize it was that bad. Between the 3 guards, Selden, Mason, Graham shot 6/21 (1/12 between Selden and Mason). What was even worse was the production Off the bench. Bragg and Traylor combined 11 minutes 0 pts, 0 rb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 TO, 2 PF.
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@Eric-san Yes, but remember, Nova’s three point shooting was worse. We got beat because Nova had the better game plan, shutting down Ellis. We did not respond with a counter to get Ellis into the game. And the reason Nova’s plan worked, a scab that gets picked every so often, is because Lucas was no real threat to score. That year, we could have had Diallo prepped and ready to play. But that’s old news. This year, we DO have Doke and Silvio (who was made game ready in about 60 days – another challenge to Diallo handling). Big, big difference this season. And that goes to @joeloveshawks’ point. We have lots more time to prep. I think – in fact I’m sure – Jay Wright worked hard on a KU game plan well before the Sweet16/Elite 8 weekend in 2016.
@Buster-1926 I am very confident. I was very confident when Doke went down because Silvio is a stud and when there is adversity, guys like Silvio step up. Opportunity and need are very inspirational. He fits this team very nicely.
This is the moment we’ve discussed that changes everything as far as perception for coach Self. A great coach that we know only needs this simple verification of his place among the elite. A second national title is the end of any discussion.
We are ready to win the national title.
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Lucas was the main reason for the two EE losses. It’s pretty clear.
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@Eric-san We were playing frozen. The only person who played with confidence was Devonte. To me, it’s all about confidence, and playing within yourself. One thing I have noticed is that Malik doesn’t seem to get nearly as rattled as he did earlier in the year. He is just oozing confidence, and I think that makes us a much tougher out. Vick looks more confident as well. Doke doesn’t ever seem to panic no matter what. This team hasn’t played tight this tournament, so i just hope we play with a free mind, and give it our best.
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We could say we pissed down our leg for a bit against Penn but that seems so far ago. I do think you hit the bigger point that guys have played with the confidence to get to this point. They are having fun and you can see it. What a job Self has done to flip the script getting here
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Doke is a lot more of a scoring threat than LL. Also, Self has perhaps turned the corner on shooting 3s: going from “fool’s gold” to “let it fly.” My concern for Saturday is that if we are looking to capitalize on Doke’s inside dominance, Jay Wright and Villanova may have a defensive counter and waiting for it. If a skinny Svi can effectively front-butt Bagley, how hard is it for a 245-pound Spellman to do the same thing? Also, If the pass is not at the rim for Doke to alley-oop, Doke needs a long time to gather himself for the 2nd leap during which he is prone to 2nd teaming and quick stripping hands of the guards.
Inside game becomes more open if we can shoot it from outside.
I believe Nova is looking for our guards to catch-and-look-for-a-passing-angle-to-feed-the-big-man-inside. Perhaps we can turn the table on them by adopting the catch-and-shoot mentality. We can out shoot them. 4 shooters with 1 beast down low is actaully harder (more multifacets) to guard than 5 shooters. Outside shooting success will force the defenders to commit on the perimeter from hedging inside. Lanes will be more open toward the rim. Currently, both Malike and Devonte are willing to catch-n-shoot, but Svi tends to hesitate, and Vick is still catch-and-look-to-pass especially if the game is tight. Those two are the key: trust your shooting touch, don’t think too much, let your muscle memory to take over, shoot in rythem, relax and “let if fly.”
