Recruiting Thread
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@dylans Peters was actually a really early commit. Dunno about Wesley. Wasn’t counting obvious high level players like Selby and Wiggins. You are right about Young and Whitman but they are transfers so I didn’t include them in this.
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@BShark Still examples that Bill sure as hell isn’t going to sit on a scholly.
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@BShark your bringing up names but NONE of these that you mentioned were rated as low as this kid, your not convincing me that a kid that is the 54th best shooting guard is going to be help a major D-1 school enough to benefit using the scholarship sorry just not.
Just like with Bill adapting his offense to the type of players he has had after the Quote unquote that’s just not Bill Self - -well Bill adapted to his players - -So now very likely he needs to change his stance IF that’s HIS STANCE - time to change about not holding on - -instead of filling a spot just to fill a spot - this kid can not help IF he happened to be the one - which I don’t think he really is - -BUT IF he was - -that is not a good move. - -My opinion - -you have yours
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@jayballer73 I don’t know that he is vouching for the specific player as much as the staffs ability to identify a piece that can in fact contribute at some point.
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jayballer73 said:
@BShark your bringing up names but NONE of these that you mentioned were rated as low as this kid, your not convincing me that a kid that is the 54th best shooting guard is going to be help a major D-1 school enough to benefit using the scholarship sorry just not.
Just like with Bill adapting his offense to the type of players he has had after the Quote unquote that’s just not Bill Self - -well Bill adapted to his players - -So now very likely he needs to change his stance IF that’s HIS STANCE - time to change about not holding on - -instead of filling a spot just to fill a spot - this kid can not help IF he happened to be the one - which I don’t think he really is - -BUT IF he was - -that is not a good move. - -My opinion - -you have yours
Svi was ranked 239th overall and the 59th SG https://kansas.247sports.com/Season/2014-Basketball/Commits
and as I read the thread I see @BShark already posted that
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Kcmatt7 said:
@jayballer73 I don’t know that he is vouching for the specific player as much as the staffs ability to identify a piece that can in fact contribute at some point.
It’s a lot of things. Definitely what you said in that staff definitely doesn’t like to leave open scholarships. Also rankings miss guys for a number of reasons. I just think it’s best to fill the scholarships if you can especially when the staff has shown they can succeed developing lower ranked players. It’s extremely low risk because if it doesn’t work out they can always transfer to a level better suited for their abilities.
I’m not vouching for this particular kid yet. I’ll check out what I can of him on youtube if KU offers.
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I seem to recall a low ranked recruit that was slated to attend Towson and another one headed to Apalachia State and they worker out pretty well. Also, Coach Self has in the past given available scholarships to walkons such as Tehan, Wesley and Young instead of bringing new players.
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@BShark Yes, Peters was signed early. I just couldn’t remember if it was him or Lucas that signed that year. (Wasn’t Lucas late ?) If it was Landon I recant my junk big statement, even if others wouldn’t. Lol
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Whatever happened to Peters after his concussion and he left UA?
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@Gorilla72 This is all I know http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2014/05/02/arizona-forward-zach-peters-ends-basketball-career-due-to-medical-issues/
I thought maybe he played somewhere else later, but I don’t see anything to support that.
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@dylans - that’s as far as I got too. Thanks!
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He actually did quit playing basketball afaik.
@dylans I thought so too but all the stuff I found on Lucas said he committed in November. Lucas was definitely a back-up plan though.
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@BShark Maybe late shouldn’t just be defined by the calendar so much as the recruiting cycle. If almost all the known good players are signed, it’s late!
November 13th is not late at all. Lucas definitely doesn’t count.
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dylans said:
@BShark Maybe late shouldn’t just be defined by the calendar so much as the recruiting cycle. If almost all the known good players are signed, it’s late!
November 13th is not late at all. Lucas definitely doesn’t count.
If you judge late as missing on other targets and then settling Lucas and Mason are part of the equation.
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Ramey to Texas. Bam right in the nads Mutards.
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BShark said:
Ramey to Texas. Bam right in the nads Mutards.
Damn. Expected though. Texas was the only team really after him which I think says something… Ramey can be good in time but we all know Shaka doesn’t help that development curve. You either show up good or else
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BeddieKU23 said:
The high hopes of a Missouri Fan
in 2020 LOL
Bahahaha there is so much to tackle here.
Ok so…Mark Smith who was rancid at Illinois is going to be great.
KJ Santos who had an alright fr year in the horizon and was a low ranked recruit? STUD.
The best one listed might be Javon Pickett who I can only assume they took to help with Liddell, who they might not get.
But what he’s really forgetting is that Cuonzo is still the HC. He’s had better rosters than this at CAL and TENN, and we see how that went.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Ramey to Texas. Bam right in the nads Mutards.
Damn. Expected though. Texas was the only team really after him which I think says something… Ramey can be good in time but we all know Shaka doesn’t help that development curve. You either show up good or else
He visited Louisville again recently but they are still radioactive.
Decent class for Shaka but who knows if he can do anything with it.
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So Nike is really ponying up for Oregon. Stacked class already (#4, #18, #41, #70 recruits) and might add Brandon Williams + Okoro reclassing to 2018.
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BShark said:
So Nike is really ponying up for Oregon. Stacked class already (#4, #18, #41, #70 recruits) and might add Brandon Williams + Okoro reclassing to 2018.
Stocking talent to play on national tv 5 times
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Beggars can’t be choosers. The Porter brothers are gone and and the one year perfect storm of recruits for MU due to hiring daddy and Cuonzo Martin’s honeymoon are both over and it is back to taking what they can rather than what they want.
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@JayHawkFanToo I wouldn’t disagree… I just find it funny that Missouri fans are hyped about that roster. I guess when you’ve had to deal with Kim Anderson rosters…
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…we would be delighted to win 3 games in football…
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Zany theory (read: 100% complete speculation). What if Quickley wants to decommit from UK? They’re already recruiting over him with Maxey and Hagans. We could start him at the 2 pretty easily.
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24/7 has both Grimes and Dotson ranked ahead of Quickley; no way he starts over them. I rather take Cremo who fills a bigger need for KU.
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Any update on Mystery Man? I figured if there was any truth to this rumor that we would have heard something by now.
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@FarmerJayhawk I know you already qualified it but yeah he loves UK.
@RockkChalkk Scott was on the radio the other day sounded like the player was still committed and could be in play, but KU prefers Cremo.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
24/7 has both Grimes and Dotson ranked ahead of Quickley; no way he starts over them. I rather take Cremo who fills a bigger need for KU.
My bad, should’ve been more clear. He’d start alongside them both, moving Grimes to the 3.
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So am I hearing this correctly you guys think Immanuel quickley is going to decommit from Kentucky to join Kansas?
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ReggieKansas said:
So am I hearing this correctly you guys think Immanuel quickley is going to decommit from Kentucky to join Kansas?
No
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@BShark it’s probably not very likely that quickley is going to decommit from Kentucky anyway
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@ReggieKansas lol no. I needed a break from work this afternoon so I asked a question.
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Only reason I mention it is because he’s getting recruited over, we have a need, and we finished 2nd (by A LOT) in that one. Figured it would be a fun way to pass a slow day or two.
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Jordan Brown picked Nevada today.
Strange times abound
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BeddieKU23 said:
Jordan Brown picked Nevada today.
Strange times abound
LOL
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Remember the Mitchell Robinson saga? Took another turn today when he withdrew from the combine. He would’ve been terrific at KU if Self would’ve made him get his head on straight.
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He was projected bottom of first round, probably will not help him to skip the combine, only top players get away with it. Whoever is advising him is not helping; I see China in his future.
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He might have a verbal. I read that.
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Wasn’t sure where to post this , but Chandler Lawson is leaving Memphis and transferring to Oal Hill Academy for his SR season.
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Not really a surprise. The better players want and need better competition much like JRE.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
He was projected bottom of first round, probably will not help him to skip the combine, only top players get away with it. Whoever is advising him is not helping; I see China in his future.
Mitchell Robinson finished up summer league averaging 13 points and 10 rebounds per game, along with averaging 4 blocks per game (a summer league record).
He played extremely well this summer and made plays you just don’t see big men make.
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Robinson would have been fun to watch in the Crimson and Blue this season. Would have been a great place for him to train and come along slowly next to Doke. In an offense that I think would have really prepped him for the NBA.
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Knox and Robinson really looked good in Summer League. Knicks may have done really well in this draft.
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I think that both New York (Robinson) and Cleveland (Preston) got steals with guys that were not eligible to play last year. Robinson might end up playing like a top 5 pick. Preston may end up playing like a first rounder. Those are steals to get those guys for a second round pick and a two way contract.
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@justanotherfan Preston has played well in the summer league. He has a bright future.
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KUSTEVE said:
@justanotherfan Preston has played well in the summer league. He has a bright future.
…makes you wonder what could have been…
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Well guys I know this is quite away out but still thought I would pass along found kind of Interesting: - Read today where 2021 Kendall Brown a 6’6 SF from East Ridge Minnesota was talking about visits and he said he had three he wanted to take. - -one was Wisconsin saying that they were close and a lot of Minnesota players went there , I forget at this moment who the other one was but here what I thought was kind of cool.
The third school if you haven’t already figured was KU , this was what was interesting: - He said KU was his dream School when asked what he liked about KU he said pretty much Everything. The best part yet was he said that he had played in a tournament here in the 2nd grade and that ever since that - - his dad said that ever since they played here in the 2nd grade - -the 2nd grade ! ! ! ! that KU is the School he wants to play for - I mean Dam - -JUMPIN - -GEE - -HOSSIE- -TOADS that’s some long time wanting to play lol. - He is currently ranked # 22 by 247 sports with the CB - just found that pretty neat, so looks like a name we might have to keep up with see how things shake out. - -Looks like all we have to do is show some interest and might be one of those no doubters if we have the need at the time. - -Haven’t offered yet but I’m sure somewhere down the line we might. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
