Elmarko
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Meh.
You can dog on Harris for being slow and not shooting enough, but that dude loves KU.
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@FarmerJayhawk is losing EJ a loss for us? I thought he was improving.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Elmarko:
Writing has been on the wall for this one. He and Zach are the two I think leave.
Jamari is outta here
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A loss because he can be a good player, but specifically for next year’s KU team he wasn’t the best fit. It is always going to be hard for him to shine playing next to Harris/KJ because he wants driving lanes and isn’t an ideal floor spacer himself.
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@BShark huh, last I heard he was happy here but that’s been a bit
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This is disappointing for me. I think he is going to turn out to be a terrific college player.
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That is not a good look if every year we have a loss of all the freshman from the previous year. That could be a big hit on recruiting. That is assuming that Furphy leaves for the draft. One to the NBA and the rest leave for other teams last year and now this year if this is how it pans out.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Elmarko:
@BShark huh, last I heard he was happy here but that’s been a bit
Not trying to be a dick but def ask again. Don’t think he moves the needle either way though for next year. Going to have to portal in a bunch.
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Wow, what did he think about as to why he wasn’t seeing the court as much, - -hell the kid didn’t even tr to take a shot during a three game stretch. making bad decisions, just not playing well until started to show some recently. - This portal is making a mockery of the sport - -to am easy for these kids to get out of there commitment. - Now instead of sucking it up tying to get better, produce-- - it’s just like well I just transfer out find a school that will butter me up, let me slide- -oh well - -BYE
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Looks like we going to have almost an entire new roster again when it s all said and done. -Hopefully Daryn Peterson will end up coming ?
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That is not a good look if every year we have a loss of all the freshman from the previous year. That could be a big hit on recruiting. That is assuming that Furphy leaves for the draft. One to the NBA and the rest leave for other teams last year and now this year if this is how it pans out.
Recruiting? That still a thing? (But I agree)
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Not sure how I feel about losing Elmarko. Not sure what kinda guard he is.
He doesn’t look like a PG — he doesn’t seem to be able to get us into our offense.
He doesn’t really look like a two guard who can shoot yet.
But, his 3 pt shooting stats aren’t as bad as I thought for the season. 12 for 37 / 32%
I’d like to see his athleticism be useful by year three maybe?
The college game is just so weird now. I’m not used to the constant turnover.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Elmarko:
Not sure how I feel about losing Elmarko. Not sure what kinda guard he is.
He doesn’t look like a PG — he doesn’t seem to be able to get us into our offense.
He doesn’t really look like a two guard who can shoot yet.
But, his 3 pt shooting stats aren’t as bad as I thought for the season. 12 for 37 / 32%
I’d like to see his athleticism be useful by year three maybe?
The college game is just so weird now. I’m not used to the constant turnover.
Elmarko is a score first PG and plays the style many here would prefer to see. The problem right now and why he’s likely leaving is that he is not good playing off the ball which would be his role next year as well if he wanted big minutes. At his natural position, he’s not playing many minutes with a 6th year Dejuan Harris at the 1 ahead of him.
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I think Elmarko will be a stud PG. i wish him nothing but success. I respect that this came out after Dajuan decided to return, and I see him telling Bill early as a sign of maturity. He is being decisive. Thats fine by me. I agree he will be a bad fit at the 2 and his leaving is a win win provided we get a stud shooter at 2. Otherwise we will be bitching about Dajuan back and chasing off Elmarko.
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@BShark it’s all good. I just don’t follow it day to day like I did a few years ago
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@approxinfinity I will never, never bitch about Harris.
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No point of recruiting a pg with Dajuan here.
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Elmarko’s a year away from being a year away at PG. There are no PG skills in his current bag. If he could play the position he’d be giving Harris a breather but he hasn’t for 30 games now. That tells you everything you need to know. Wish him the best, really was high on him coming in. He was in the portal as soon as he lost his starting spot.
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@approxinfinity I will never, never bitch about Harris.
Don’t worry I’ll do it for you.
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They have Philon in the fold. If he sticks around he will likely be the guy in 25 replacing Harris. Year to learn under him then take over. Of course those kind of plans are hard to even think about anymore in today’s age. Either it will be Philon, an incoming recruit in 25 or a transfer.
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I said this would happen with Juan staying and we likely don’t sign a PG to back him up. Maybe a very low rated one. Elmarko has a high ceiling and will be a good player somewhere else.
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We will have to see how this plays out, it could bite Self in the rear end. Juan isn’t playing pro basketball in this country and likely not over seas. I like Juan, he’s a good kid but hes very limited athletically and that’s is a problem at times with his lack of aggression.
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@kjayhawks said in Elmarko:
We will have to see how this plays out, it could bite Self in the rear end. Juan isn’t playing pro basketball in this country and likely not over seas. I like Juan, he’s a good kid but hes very limited athletically and that’s is a problem at times with his lack of aggression.
Bill is doing all of this to himself for loyalty at two crucial positions….I don’t understand it
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I will say, I do wish Jamari would stay or that Elmarko would change his mind somehow. It can’t really be sustainable to keep losing entire recruiting classes and portaling in loads of guys.
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@BShark Instant gratification is something KU can’t always offer a underclass man. Instant gratification seems to be necessary to hold their attention though. Hell a couple guys that started during their freshman years transferred away recently (Bryce Thompson, Zuby Ejifore) because the competition was too stiff. Add Elmarko to that list.
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@BShark that’s the sad part of the way it works nowadays KJ and Juan maybe the last 4 years players we have
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Jamari baffles me especially since he knew coming in his role wasn’t going to be big. Probably wants to get close to home and go to A&M. Probably a better fit in that system there too with Buzz. Whatever.
Elmarko is just a miss for this year. If he stayed, he would improve but he’s not a PG currently. They ran him out there on Tuesday without Harris for one play and he crapped his paints trying to run the play. Think he might need to drop a level to find where he can develop as a PG because right now he cannot run a team at this level. The lights are too bright
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Might be a shift. Going to be an interesting offseason. He’s being recruited back essentially.
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@BShark yikes idk if I like it or not but sounds kinda desperate to me. If a person ask me to pick between him and Mari, I’m taking Mari everytime.
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Might be a shift. Going to be an interesting offseason. He’s being recruited back essentially.
I guess one silver lining about this in relation to the current season is that it keeps him engaged and playing.
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Might be a shift. Going to be an interesting offseason. He’s being recruited back essentially.
At what position? What skills does Self want him to develop?
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@kjayhawks said in Elmarko:
@BShark yikes idk if I like it or not but sounds kinda desperate to me. If a person ask me to pick between him and Mari, I’m taking Mari everytime.
ME TOO
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Might be a shift. Going to be an interesting offseason. He’s being recruited back essentially.
Thank God!!!
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Not sure about this. We better land some great shooters in the portal
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Why are so many against the kid returning? He’s been forced to play off ball the whole year and essentially adjust to a role he’s never had to do in his life. He’s one of the three-four good athletes on this team. Everybody doesn’t get it as a freshman and that’s fine.
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@TYOHawk because people complain about Juan not being a scorer. It feels like about a 2% chance that we will get 1 year of good shooting from Elmarko. If we have a couple non shooters fine, but i dont think Elmarko should play off ball. Id rather just have 1 guard that cant shoot on the court at the point. And another who cant shoot the 3 in the frontcourt in KJ.
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just when I was getting my hopes up that it was true and he was gone. – Not looking forward to a player that’s on the floor who doesn’t attempt a shot for three straight games again next year
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@approxinfinity said in Elmarko:
@TYOHawk because people complain about Juan not being a scorer. It feels like about a 2% chance that we will get 1 year of good shooting from Elmarko. If we have a couple non shooters fine, but i dont think Elmarko should play off ball. Id rather just have 1 guard that cant shoot on the court at the point. And another who cant shoot the 3 in the frontcourt in KJ.
One of my biggest issues with the team this year is I felt Elmarko didn’t get enough reps on ball cause Dajuan plays like 38 minutes a game. Coach has got to let him or Philon actually get to be on ball next year.
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@approxinfinity said in Elmarko:
Not sure about this. We better land some great shooters in the portal
kinda makes me think let’s see isn’t peterson a PG? - if he is might be a sign we screwed the pooch on him too, and he is big adias
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He’s playing a different role because the role they could really use him at (backup PG, secondary ballhandler) he cannot do currently. He cannot run the offense or simple plays for this team.
They say he’s really good in practice but in games it hasn’t translated. He is young to the game so maybe he has a big leap in him coming. We need something to stay and develop.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Elmarko:
He’s playing a different role because the role they could really use him at (backup PG, secondary ballhandler) he cannot do currently. He cannot run the offense or simple plays for this team.
They say he’s really good in practice but in games it hasn’t translated. He is young to the game due so maybe he has a big leap in him coming. We need something to stay and develop.
This is another reason I’m for it. We need to start having player retention again. We can’t keep shuffling guys in and out.
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There’s a reason why Elmarko was tabbed as a potential OAD and lottery pick entering the season.
People want a play making PG who can get his own shots, Elmarko can be that player.
It also baffles me to see people complain about not having players to cheer for because they don’t stick around and develop. Now that someone is potentially changing their minds about returning and developing more here at KU, those same people don’t want him back. It can’t be both ways because how many of the most beloved Jayhawks are beloved because they stuck here through adversity?
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I think there’s going to be some criticism/hesitation from fans because with Harris coming back we need shooting and playmaking. I’m not sure anyone wants to watch another year where the backcourt can’t shoot or create their own like we are seeing this year. Just my 2 cents
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Elmarko should definitely come back. Learning for another year then stepping into the starting role later would be awesome for both sides
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Elmarko:
Elmarko should definitely come back. Learning for another year then stepping into the starting role later would be awesome for both sides
Guessing you’ve heard about all this as well since it’s been buzzing around for days (I really vetted it out before posting here). KJ’s dad (KJ and his dad love KU) has been a big part of this. Heard he has been talking to Elmarko’s mom about things.
I’m still a believer in the physical tools but he is raw and needs someone to teach him basketball skills. That can be tricky, some guys never get there. Philon is the opposite, he knows how to play very well. I think the idea of the Elmarko (JR)/Philon (SO) is pretty enticing.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Elmarko:
I think there’s going to be some criticism/hesitation from fans because with Harris coming back we need shooting and playmaking. I’m not sure anyone wants to watch another year where the backcourt can’t shoot or create their own like we are seeing this year. Just my 2 cents
We need a proven stud guard no matter what happens with Elmarko.
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I’d be thrilled is Elmarko comes back. You can tell he has all the tools to be a dominant player, but for some reason he’s just not aggressive enough. Usually Freshmen screw up by trying to do too much, but Elmarko barely tried to do anything. Was flat out weird to me.
