2024 Recruiting
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Yeah… I don’t expect we will see both on the team at the same time. A lot can happen between now and next summer.
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The Diallo/ Cliff comp seems good here.
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I wonder if Hunter will actually come back after this yr ? - -Could be Bill recruited Flory on full assumption that Hunter will not be back
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Just happy Adidas didn’t let us down here. Reading tea leaves here, it either means Dickinson is gone or Flory and his team seem comfortable letting him get seasoning at KU multiple years…
Either way, I’m just glad and Adidas made a point to get their top guy to their top school. As it should be.
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Most likely it means Flory thinks he can come in and take the starting job from Dickinson. Luckily for him, Dickinson is unlikely to be around to show him otherwise
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Iam more likely wrong on this but I thought I had heard or read some where it was Hunter’s intention just to be here for the one year
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2024 Recruiting:
The Diallo/ Cliff comp seems good here.
I think a bit further along than Diallo at the same point. Also…bouncier? Cheick was FAST though. Hopefully he plays more for Kansas than Cheick did LOL.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
@Texas-Hawk-10 fiiiine. And arguing about an inch when he’s got a 7’4 wingspan is really a waste of time anyway. He’s flatly not going to be a college 4. Even in the scenario where Hunter comes back it would be tough to play them together. More likely he backs up Hunter and KJ sticks at the 4.
https://nbadraftroom.com/flory-bidunga/ https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-recruiting-whats-the-story-with-flory-several-things-add-up-to-make-him-pretty-special/
We’re talking two different things here. I haven’t been posting about what he’ll play at KU. I’ve been posting about what he needs to do to succeed in the NBA and what he’ll play there.
He’ll be fine here at KU with his skill set and be able to contribute here for 1 or 2 years or however long he’s in Lawrence. But if he wants to make and stick in the NBA at his size, he has to develop a game away from the basket. If he doesn’t get any taller, being an undersized 5 with basically no offensive game is going to send him overseas instead of hanging around the NBA.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2024 Recruiting:
Just happy Adidas didn’t let us down here. Reading tea leaves here, it either means Dickinson is gone or Flory and his team seem comfortable letting him get seasoning at KU multiple years…
Either way, I’m just glad and Adidas made a point to get their top guy to their top school. As it should be.
Flory is raw enough on offense that he shouldn’t start day 1 at a place like Kansas and shouldn’t OAD if he wants a better chance at sticking in the NBA. Having him be a backup for a year to Dickinson and allowing him to play to his current strengths of being a high energy, above average defender and rebounder and allow him to develop some kind of offensive game for his second year is the ideal situation for both KU and Flory.
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@BShark looks like higher bb IQ
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What does this mean for Zach? I’m sure he was banking on being the man after Hunter left.
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How does Flory compare to Zuby and Udeh?
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@rockchalkwyo - on the one hand, Zach will have been in the system for 2 years and knows the plays. Flory is somewhat of a project. Zach should get lots of minutes at 4 or 5, I’d think. Brain will be gone.
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Yeah I saw what Bossi said about the Diallo comp, good for us if true that he’s further ahead.
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@approxinfinity said in 2024 Recruiting:
How does Flory compare to Zuby and Udeh?
Around same height as Zuby but longer wingspan and more athletic/bouncy. Some of the same traits as Udeh, rim runner etc. His development on offense will be key for him.
The Udeh/Zuby situation angers me still from both sides.
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@jayballer67 I don’t recall ever seeing that, but even if he did we see people change their mind all the time with regards to returning. We know hunter is likley making around the NBA min so would be weird to see him take a pay cut to play in the g league or Europe. Maybe Bill doesn’t want him for 2 years? That seems unlikely but could just be Hunter wants to be one with college after 4 years? If that’s not the case though, hopefully Flory has considered and is ok with that or else there is a chance we might see him decommiting next spring.
Flory seem to be ranked highly just based on his athleticism though, so it would make sense for him to end up being a 2 year player so he can improve on passing/defense/shooting. Just hearing the comps to Diallo and Azubuike makes me think that he will have a hard time going in the lottery if he isn’t elite at one of those to complement his rim running ability.
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Said this on the Flory thread started yesterday, but kids highly rated like this go pro almost always so he’s a one year soon to become distant memory less than two years from now, so I’ll bridle my enthusiasm with harsh doses of reality.
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@MR11 said in 2024 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 I don’t recall ever seeing that, but even if he did we see people change their mind all the time with regards to returning. We know hunter is likley making around the NBA min so would be weird to see him take a pay cut to play in the g league or Europe. Maybe Bill doesn’t want him for 2 years? That seems unlikely but could just be Hunter wants to be one with college after 4 years? If that’s not the case though, hopefully Flory has considered and is ok with that or else there is a chance we might see him decommiting next spring.
Flory seem to be ranked highly just based on his athleticism though, so it would make sense for him to end up being a 2 year player so he can improve on passing/defense/shooting. Just hearing the comps to Diallo and Azubuike makes me think that he will have a hard time going in the lottery if he isn’t elite at one of those to complement his rim running ability.
Agree with pretty much on everything you said. Those same thoughts went through my mind also. - The one thing is that they have said he is improving his offense that’s it not just dunks or bust has a little range does really well getting his position down low for his patent jump hook - has little game with some floaters and short baseline jumpers.
Kinda scares me though just like you mentioned I’m not sure if he would be willing to play behind hunter for extended length of time. you know how these kids that are ranked that high think. their train of thouht a lot of times is they feel they should start from day one. - just a scenario that has to play out. Yet like you also say could be a chance Hunter returns - - Flory de-commits
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Where is Diallo? He’s a true case that proves to young players that staying in college awhile really, really helps to seal your nba future. He was so lost and it was so sad! He was also so talented but just raw! Cliffs mom really screwed him over. Just like Billy’s mom.
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Give me Jalil Bethea and I’ll be good to go. -Ranked # 20 by 247 - -& ranked 16th by Rivals. In rivals seen one future cast and it was for KU @ 48 % would be nice to be able to pull him in
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@Crimsonorblue22 - Diallo is apparently playing pro ball in Mali.
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Read an article and saw that Vyctorius Miller is planning on taking an official visit to KU - no specific date but chances are in October some time. Has already visited un offically.
Other Schools involved is LSU - -Gonz - - & USC . Other visitors planning on visiting during off Season are : - -Jalil Bethea , Billy Richmond , Jared Harris , & Emmanuel Stephen
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Why is Cooper Flagg wasting his time coming here to visit ? - - - Why is our staff wasting their time entertaining Coope Flagg for a visit ? - -We all know he is a 100 % cinch for Duke.
I know he wants to get his free visits but Damm come on man you know, w know you not coming here
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@jayballer67 Here we go again. No, us fans don’t know anything for certain what these kids are thinking. Visiting to see what KU is all about certainly can’t hurt if he is someone that coach believes would make our team better.
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@jayballer67 do we though
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Flory was a duke, then auburn lock.
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Last person I was absolutely sure would go to KU was Mitch.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
@jayballer67 do we though
lol, well maybe a lil truth to what you say, after the Flory deal and then what was the kids name everyone thought was a sure thing coming here and where he land? - -Indiana wasn’t it ? - so true never say never BUT IF i was a guy that bet --I would take that bet all day long that he does not end up here compared to saying he is a Duke lock
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A lot can change in a year…
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To me, it’s not so bad if top recruits feel like they have to visit Kansas or they might be missing out, even if they really want to go somewhere else. A program with mystique has an X-factor.
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https://twitter.com/JoggersAndSatay/status/1695161227343716850 Cuse seems like the biggest competition for bethea
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We shall have to see about Flagg, All I know is he keeps getting more predictions for Duke - -They all can’t be wrong can they ? - That many ?
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@rcjhdraft said in 2024 Recruiting:
https://twitter.com/JoggersAndSatay/status/1695161227343716850 Cuse seems like the biggest competition for bethea
I’m optimistic here and think he’s a bigger need then Flory. I still think Miami is a factor relationship wise, but their NIL is going belly up so wonder the impact there. Cuse surprises as a contender. Just don’t see a top recruit going to a place where a legend retires and you have no clue what future your walking into (rebuild). Hoping Bill again is the deciding factor in the recruitment
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2024 Recruiting:
@rcjhdraft said in 2024 Recruiting:
https://twitter.com/JoggersAndSatay/status/1695161227343716850 Cuse seems like the biggest competition for bethea
I’m optimistic here and think he’s a bigger need then Flory. I still think Miami is a factor relationship wise, but their NIL is going belly up so wonder the impact there. Cuse surprises as a contender. Just don’t see a top recruit going to a place where a legend retires and you have no clue what future your walking into (rebuild). Hoping Bill again is the deciding factor in the recruitment
I think w are in pretty decent shape, but just never know with kids, Hope Coach can do it again. would be a sweet duo Flory and Bethea
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5* Wing Liam McNeeley is visiting Kansas Sept 1-3
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Was watching the 247 weekly Basketball recruiting this Morning and they were saying - -well Eric Bossi was saying not to Count the Jay Hawks out of the Cooper Flagg recruitment just yet, saying he thought it was kinda odd for the other Visits if Cooper was all in on Duke/ Duke lock. Thinks KU will have him on Campus the weekend of Late Night But he will be a Duke for their verson of late night after the KU visit. w
Eric said Coach Self is all in on Flagg and said we have seen what happens when Coach is like that. - -We shall see.
Finkelstein also mentioned that KU was actively looking for another frontliner/big man and was talking about Queen saying don’t count them out there either as Queen is athletic enough he could play with another big.
Talked about how KU might be considered the leade for Jahlil B, but think it’s still wide open
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The Billy Eugene Self Revenge Tour is off to a BLAZING start
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
The Billy Eugene Self Revenge Tour is off to a BLAZING start
Struggling to remember the last time we had 3 top 15 recruits on campus at once that WASN’T late night.
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Welcome to the best program and best coach in college basketball.
(Note: We all knew this, but now it’s becoming widely accepted in all regions of the country. Plus, Bill Self has been at KU since these kids were born, so they haven’t seen KU lose many games and recently they’ve seen some BIG wins.)
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bill the greatest salesman in the world if he convinces queen to come on with flory already on board. the rationalizations from the other fanbases in the recruitment would be incredible
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Boy our 2024 recruiting really ramping up. – - THREE big time over Laor ay weekend - Bethea - -McNeely - - & Queen. - - -Emanual coming in on the 5th of Sept - - Billy Richmond on October 6th - -& then Cooper Flagg for ate night.
I think Jeremy has a big part in this, think he is really going to help, doing nice work. - As far as possible’s I think we have a very legit shot a Bethea ,- -might be able to snare McNeely - -wouldn’t mind Queen at all, But think that’s a reach with Flory commit. Still have serious doubts about the possibility of Flagg landing here
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“Don’t stop me now” - Bill Self
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@BShark said in 2024 Recruiting:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 Recruiting:
“Don’t stop me now” - Bill Self
Rutgers staff is sweating.
Rutgers, Maryland, Miami, Duke. Rampaaaaaage
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2006 Bill is back. Billy five stars.
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Harper AND Bethea?
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Ha , - -Ha - Ha - -and the plot thickens.- - - Bill rollin. - - that is my guess too , Bethea AND Haper possibly, taking harper right out from under their noses.
Kentucky board jumped on this quick. - Some Kentucky insider something like that I see him there a lot name Trilly Donavon tweeted, Self up to his shit again lol - - People saying GOD no please not Flagg lol
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I know this kid may not be top priority But from what I hear is that Coach could very well be looking for another big to go with Flory - - -Reading see that Emmanual Stephen a Seven Footer is coming in for late night , probably a project but we know how Coach seems to develop Big’s if we lose out on some this would work really good size -excellent rim protector averaged 2.8 last year and averaged 3.8 in the Peach jam with a high of 12 in one game. -have to see how this al turns out. - -Seems like Coach is getting plenty of possibilities
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top 40 guard Austin Swartz is probably committing to Miami. bringing this up since they’re competition for bethea
