Hog Wild Game Thread
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@FarmerJayhawk had one with the lob at start of game from Juan to Gradey…simple bounce pass is a layup
Bill can draw it up hopefully we’d execute but no guarantees
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I tend to think Bill gives us the edge. Did we get a bucket on any inbounds plays?
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Just disappointed that bad luck had a factor in it.
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There is no free throw more guaranteed to go in than the one you need to miss. Why it’s so hard I’ll never understand lol
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Miss a bunch, then make when you try to miss!
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Self would have substituted before a 11 pt lead evaporated.
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@Kcmatt7 right?
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Alot of lazy defense the second half led to getting beat at the line as well. Also shouldn’t discount the fact we should go into half up 15 plus on missed bunnies, etc.
Disappointed that they got beat by a team that just had more want to when it mattered most.
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Yeah missed three front ends of 1-and-1. That’s a lot of points on the floor
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People blaming the refs are silly, we could’ve had the ball down 1 if we just rebounded. Or win by 5 if upperclassmen made the free ones.
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@mayjay I had KU-Purdue in both of mine!!
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@Kcmatt7 they knew all the inbounds plays - no lobs for this squad
Gradey was bad that’s why we lost today Free throws as well
They were determined to stop Jalen and other guys like KJ, Kevin and Juan did step up which was nice to see
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Shoot. We win this with the last set of refs. It was just a perfect storm of a decent team playing against a short handed Jayhawk team. Gradey’s disappearing act is why you don’t rely on freshmen. Not much of a KU legacy. Xavier like.
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you hit the front end of your free throw - -we wouldn’t be looking for reasons why we lost
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I have never seen a coach take the shirt off and chant to the crowd, a bit awkward
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@bskeet said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Self would have substituted before a 11 pt lead evaporated.
He also would have been in the refs asses about how that game was called.
There is so much that goes into being a HC. Working the refs. Calling plays. Changing how you defend screens. All that good stuff.
Norm, for as great of an assistant as he is, is an assistant for a reason.
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The refs didn’t call 2 clear fouls on Kevin before. It evens out.
Mizzou in trouble is nice…
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@kjayhawks why was Joe in the game!!! Mj rice grabs that or anyone bigger
Put in Zuby or Ernest and have kj at 4. Get board and call timeout make subs it’s game point as Bill would say as we would have been down 1
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Jaun was great overall. Ya Gradeys scoring was a big factor(lack there of) idk why Norm pulls him immediately after he hits his first from outside
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@mayjay need ksu to lose as well
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@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Alot of lazy defense the second half led to getting beat at the line as well. Also shouldn’t discount the fact we should go into half up 15 plus on missed bunnies, etc.
Disappointed that they got beat by a team that just had more want to when it mattered most.
It wasn’t lazy defense, it was foul issues meaning they couldn’t be aggressive anymore.
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How many points do we think Self was worth here? At least 10?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 once again we’ll have to disagree. That was definitely not the inspired defense we saw in the first 10-15 min of the game in my opinion
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Come on can we at least get a mention of the Self missing factor
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@BShark nah that’s just homerism
I watched live ou almost beat us in Allen and Bill gave up calling plays it was post Jalen and throw it to him hope for a foul
You can call plays all u want doesn’t mean guys execute
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@Kcmatt7 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@bskeet said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Self would have substituted before a 11 pt lead evaporated.
He also would have been in the refs asses about how that game was called.
There is so much that goes into being a HC. Working the refs. Calling plays. Changing how you defend screens. All that good stuff.
Norm, for as great of an assistant as he is, is an assistant for a reason.
I’m beginning to question what exactly Norm brings to the team. It sure isn’t for lineup suggestions or set play input or really anything tangible as for in game adjustments.
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@BShark at least 2
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I think we win with Self there I think his outbounds plays are worth a few buckets
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@BShark said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
How many points do we think Self was worth here? At least 10?
Well how many did we score in special situations? He’s good for about 50%of those.
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@BShark said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
How many points do we think Self was worth here? At least 10?
You can tell that the initial game plan worked great. But then they adjusted and Norm never did
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@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 once again we’ll have to disagree. That was definitely not the inspired defense we saw in the first 10-15 min of the game in my opinion
Correct it was not at all, yet we’re still good enough to win it
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@cragarhawk he needs to come back dude can’t create his own shot without a pick
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COME ON FOOTBALL
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@jayballer67 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
you hit the front end of your free throw - -we wouldn’t be looking for reasons why we lost
Amen!
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I definitely think Self has a better answer when they go on their run after we’re up 11. Whether it be lineups, a defense change, etc
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@dylans it’s different being the guy managing everything than looking for one thing. Jmo.
A lot of guys are great assistants and otro le beach coaches. In all sports.
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@kuballin10 I agree. But I doubt it happens
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@kjayhawks we throw it to a big at the elbow from underneath - teams scout that stuff so no
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Seriously, a top 5 coach ever missing and the heads dont even mention it in their post game analysis.
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Well I’m over it. The guards coming in won’t address our front line. Help transfer portal!
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GONNA BE A LONG BORING SUMMER
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@jayballer67 Free agency time.
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@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
Jaun was great overall. Ya Gradeys scoring was a big factor(lack there of) idk why Norm pulls him immediately after he hits his first from outside
This was key Gradey was nowhere to be found
He attacked on boards well
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@approxinfinity ya that seems short sighted. But I guess it means about as much as any excuse we wanna make at this point. It’s over and just sucks
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Bad luck
Poor officiating
Missed FTs
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@cragarhawk said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
I definitely think Self has a better answer when they go on their run after we’re up 11. Whether it be lineups, a defense change, etc
This I can agree with
Not sure what Norm called late but didn’t work -
Walsh held Wilson well second half
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@Kcmatt7 said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
@BShark said in Hog Wild Game Thread:
How many points do we think Self was worth here? At least 10?
You can tell that the initial game plan worked great. But then they adjusted and Norm never did
Ding ding ding.
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This team was talent deficient whether people want ti believe that or not. Really good college players, but overall they weren’t deep and lacked an “elite” guy imo.
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@AsadZ don’t forget Self!
