Transfer Rumblings
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@FarmerJayhawk Who are we linked to right now outside of Dickinson, Cryer and Timberlake? I haven’t heard a real name in a bit.
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@Kcmatt7 Spears, and have heard back channel chatter to Livingston. Livingston’s camp has watched a lot of Jalen Wilson and stroked their chin beards, so to speak.
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KU isn’t a serious player for Cryer. He has stated he wants to play PG. He is obviously not going to do that at KU.
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@FarmerJayhawk Spears is like 6’3 on a tall day, no? I feel like they get one of Spears, Timberlake or Cryer. All 3 filling the same role.
Livingston is the only “wing” guy I’ve heard so far.
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@Woodrow I think we’ll get a visit. And I imagine we’ll be his strongest offer money-wise.
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“I do not want to play point guard full time, but while I was in Waco I was not able to play point guard at all,” Cryer said. “I am looking to see what school will let me play some time at point guard. I realize I am lethal off the ball and I do not want to take that out of my game because I know it is one of my strengths that can help a team win. I know to get to that next level, I will have to be able to showcase what I can do on the ball.”
I wouldn’t say that we couldn’t offer this to him. Just saying.
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@Kcmatt7 if there are 4 spots (I think Cuffe ends up leaving, but (¯_(ツ)_/¯) they’ll take two guards IMO. The wing market hasn’t really developed like they’d hoped. So I could see a smaller lineup next year than we’ve seen recently with two guards, two wings, and a big: Juan, Spears/Elmarko, wing transfer, wing transfer (Livingston?), Dickinson/Udeh.
If only 3 I think one of each: Juan, transfer/Elmarko, Kev, transfer, Udeh/Dickinson if he comes.
I’m sure there will be more available soon. Handy list of guys entering, listed by if they’re just testing and whether or not they’re also in the portal https://www.rookiescale.com/early-entrant-tracker/
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@Woodrow said in Transfer Rumblings:
KU isn’t a serious player for Cryer. He has stated he wants to play PG. He is obviously not going to do that at KU.
Heard something very interesting about Cryer today…
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Woodrow I think we’ll get a visit. And I imagine we’ll be his strongest offer money-wise.
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@BShark does he suck defensively?
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@kuballin10 I love Cryer, I hope we land him. It’s looking like it could be possible. Let’s see if he sets a visit to KU.
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Juan —-LJ —- Kev or ? —- ? — Hunter Potential to be nasty
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Get me Hunter/Livingston/Kev and if Cuffe transfers I’d take Timberlake and be ecstatic.
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@TYOHawk Did you see Swain’s recent post about what we are looking for at the wing spot and why we didn’t recruit a certain player? You’ll be happy lol.
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@BShark I’ll look now. Thanks for the warning
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@TYOHawk It’s in the “thoughts on last nights comments/kevin” thread.
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@BShark just saw it. I prayed for Self to see my vision and he’s getting it now lmao.
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@TYOHawk Care to give us the summary or your logic?
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@kuballin10 We want a plus athlete on the wing. I’ve been having discussions with BShark about my opinion that we need to get more athletes on the wing. Obviously you just don’t have Wiggins, Ochai, Oubre and Braun type athletes on the wing in every class but I do think Self works best with those.
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@TYOHawk 100% agree - athletes who can shoot it! Feels like they grow on trees but not always easy to find.
I don’t have access to the article so was curious what you were saying - appreciate it
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Jamille Reynolds’s to Cincinnati
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Any word on Timberlake?
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@RockkChalkk nope
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I think we land him
I think we miss on Hunter and other top guys
Get Kev back and hope for a miracle on some guys pulling out of the draft late
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
I think we land him
I think we miss on Hunter and other top guys
Get Kev back and hope for a miracle on some guys pulling out of the draft late
Things are shapely up nicely with Shedrick if we miss on Hunter.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
I think we land him
I think we miss on Hunter and other top guys
Get Kev back and hope for a miracle on some guys pulling out of the draft late
I think it’s about 60 /40 we land hunter and I don’t think Kevin will be back
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@BShark I’m hoping for Sanogo or someone else. Shedrick would be okay but if he doesn’t have a back to the basket move he doesn’t move the needle much but some shot blocking ability defensively.
If we don’t land a few studs it will be tough to say Bill dominated the portal in a timeframe in which he should be “the guy” and KU the hottest name it’s ever been
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@jayballer67 I hope you are right
From what I’m reading and the more I think about it we are being leveraged so he can get the most out of md or gtown and head up. Read md hired his high school coach and if relationships matter than he won’t come here.
He zoomed with uk and us just to up the ante with them. I think playing for KU, Self and knowing he’d be the number one option is only reason we are listed as a possibility compared to uk.
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@RockkChalkk He’s visiting uconn next so all the guys with inroads to KU will say something like this
“Visit went great, he really connected with Self and had a great time with the players. Knows he’d fill a big role of shooting and has playing time here. Wants to finish his visits first but we are right in this and have as good a shot as anyone on his list.”
There you go pay me your $10/mo for that inside info
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I think we get Kev back and land Hunter. The rest is a crapshoot. I just have a feeling on Cryer that doesnt make sense. I could easily see our third being someone we havent even heard about yet.
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@kuballin10 said:
If we don’t land a few studs it will be tough to say Bill dominated the portal in a timeframe in which he should be “the guy” and KU the hottest name it’s ever been
I’d have a hard time arguing with that.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 I hope you are right
From what I’m reading and the more I think about it we are being leveraged so he can get the most out of md or gtown and head up. Read md hired his high school coach and if relationships matter than he won’t come here.
He zoomed with uk and us just to up the ante with them. I think playing for KU, Self and knowing he’d be the number one option is only reason we are listed as a possibility compared to uk.
Actually from what I read off Kentucky message board had an article from a guy that writes for the Spun. - -Yes he had a zoom with Kentucky & he had a zoom with Arkansas, but even with that said , they said that Kentucky & Arkansas were NOT considered to be his landing spot , and that it was KU -Villanova GTown & Maryland and them saying that KU actually was probably the simplest fit for him to transfer into. - -Having said that I still just think with him listing three out of the four front runners as they say - I just feel he will end up on the Coast
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@RockkChalkk Cryer ain’t coming here - literally zero chance. I know what bshark has said but his crimson and blue glasses are tinted on this one.
Nowell just went off
Cryer loves Tang
Cryer wants to play point more than off ball
Ksu has open pg spot
Why are we still discussing this (sarcasm for it’s clearly over and he’s ksu bound lol)
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Cryer is going to Houston. He and Tang aren’t close according to the grapes
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I don’t want Cryer. He doesn’t compliment Dejuan well. Baylor was atrocious on defense last season with their collection of small guards and Cryer doesn’t help KU in that area because he would keep KU’s back court really small. He might be the best shooter in the portal, but other than that, nothing else in his game compliments what KU needs this offseason.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 but if we had Juan, Kev, and Hunter, three high level defenders, maybe we would be better off with a lesser defender that beings that offensive firepower on the perimeter we would be lacking. It may not be that bad of a fit.
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@RockkChalkk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Texas-Hawk-10 but if we had Juan, Kev, and Hunter, three high level defenders, maybe we would be better off with a lesser defender that beings that offensive firepower on the perimeter we would be lacking. It may not be that bad of a fit.
Hunter is a rim protector and can’t defend away from the basket. Getting him and Cryer in a pick and roll situation would not be good, especially if KU doesn’t have a good help defender at the 4 spot. Without knowing what the situation at the 4 spot is or if McCullar will be back, I don’t see Cryer being a great fit here until we know what else will be in place for the rotation.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 if he could play D I’d be on board. KU is jaded by our 2017 small backcourt that just choked in kc.
Meanwhile Fau’s is all guys under 6-5 and they are good
Baylor’s title team started 6-2, 6-3, 6-3 and 6-4 (Teague)
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@RockkChalkk said in Transfer Rumblings:
I think we get Kev back and land Hunter. The rest is a crapshoot. I just have a feeling on Cryer that doesnt make sense. I could easily see our third being someone we havent even heard about yet.
Cryer is EXTREMELY likely going to Houston. I actually have a lot of details on this one.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@jayballer67 I hope you are right
From what I’m reading and the more I think about it we are being leveraged so he can get the most out of md or gtown and head up. Read md hired his high school coach and if relationships matter than he won’t come here.
He zoomed with uk and us just to up the ante with them. I think playing for KU, Self and knowing he’d be the number one option is only reason we are listed as a possibility compared to uk.
My gut says Maryland after a dog and pony show.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@RockkChalkk He’s visiting uconn next so all the guys with inroads to KU will say something like this
“Visit went great, he really connected with Self and had a great time with the players. Knows he’d fill a big role of shooting and has playing time here. Wants to finish his visits first but we are right in this and have as good a shot as anyone on his list.”
There you go pay me your $10/mo for that inside info
Shay is that you?
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@RockkChalkk Cryer ain’t coming here - literally zero chance. I know what bshark has said but his crimson and blue glasses are tinted on this one.
Nowell just went off
Cryer loves Tang
Cryer wants to play point more than off ball
Ksu has open pg spot
Why are we still discussing this (sarcasm for it’s clearly over and he’s ksu bound lol)
He’s going to Houston almost assuredly. We did however raise the price.
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@BShark That really sucks but seems to be the writing on the wall
Figures regarding lj
Definitely not shay just read enough message board fodder since college - only so much “inside” guys can say. No one truly knows until the kid actually commits.
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Just want to say i love all the discussion here and everyone brings great insight and opinions. And thank you for allowing me to share mine from time to time. Appreciate you all very much. Hopefully our hawks reload and put together another title contending team for 2023.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark That really sucks but seems to be the writing on the wall
Figures regarding lj
Definitely not shay just read enough message board fodder since college - only so much “inside” guys can say. No one truly knows until the kid actually commits.
KU could easily pay the rumored amount for Cryer so I assume there are fit issues. Plus not everything is about money.
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@BShark Yeah he isn’t coming here even if we are offering the most
Houston to be this years Sasser Or ksu (sounds like not going to happen as I’d guessed with zero inside info)
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark That really sucks but seems to be the writing on the wall
Figures regarding lj
Definitely not shay just read enough message board fodder since college - only so much “inside” guys can say. No one truly knows until the kid actually commits.
KU could easily pay the rumored amount for Cryer so I assume there are fit issues. Plus not everything is about money.
The fit issues I assume are pretty much what I described above along with him supposedly wanting to be a lead guard which isn’t happening over Harris. There are better fits than Cryer out there for what KU needs in a 2 guard.
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How do you feel about Kalib Boone? @BeddieKU23 @Kcmatt7 @FarmerJayhawk @kuballin10 @TYOHawk
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Certainly not our first option at this point.
I could make a case he was underutilized and underplayed in Boynton’s system. Only averaged 16 mpg his career there.
His good days are really good. Seems to have always had trouble being consistent (again was that the system, PT)
Efficient, can block shots, make FT’s. Not a perimeter shooter so obviously we love that.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Certainly not our first option at this point.
I could make a case he was underutilized and underplayed in Boynton’s system. Only averaged 16 mpg his career there.
His good days are really good. Seems to have always had trouble being consistent (again was that the system, PT)
Efficient, can block shots, make FT’s. Not a perimeter shooter so obviously we love that.
Yeah definitely on and off. Would hope Bill would unlock him if it happens.
Depends on how quickly he moves, since I don’t see us doing anything until we get an answer from Hunter.
