Transfer Rumblings
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@kuballin10 thanks for listing the data I already collected and gave summary stats for!
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@rcjhdraft - I believe it would take a day or so to report it if someone entered at the last moment.
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@Gorilla72 either way going from seemingly the entire roster transferring last year to zero turnover this year would be nice
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Always nice to have yo stuff validated
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Itās been a few days since Iāve been here and I can not ā I mean reallyā¦ CAN NOT ābelieve that there was a thread defending Josh Selby and suggesting he was an asset to the team. Thatās some amazing revisionist history
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@bskeet said in Transfer Rumblings:
Itās been a few days since Iāve been here and I can not ā I mean reallyā¦ CAN NOT ābelieve that there was a thread defending Josh Selby and suggesting he was an asset to the team. Thatās some amazing revisionist history
USC game, baby! I was there, and he won us that one.
Gotta count for something, right?
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@bskeet said in Transfer Rumblings:
Itās been a few days since Iāve been here and I can not ā I mean reallyā¦ CAN NOT ābelieve that there was a thread defending Josh Selby and suggesting he was an asset to the team. Thatās some amazing revisionist history
Itās almost as if he who shall not be named was reincarnated.
Recruiting Josh Selby was one of the biggest recruiting mistakes Bill Self made. He basically got Bruce Pearl fired at Tennessee, missed the first 1/3 of the season due to suspension, then got hurt pretty quickly once he was eligible amd was hellbent on being a OAD no matter what. He was a headcase and KU achieved what they did in spite of Selby, not because of him.
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@rockchalkjayhawk LOLā¦ thatās trueā¦ It was a December game (mostly downhill from there), and that probably set expectations too high for a freshmen. (along with the fact that he was the #1 overall recruit that year).
That said, I saw Jacque Vaughn as a freshmen do something similar against Indiana and he did not seem to have the drop in production that Selby had. (Iāve never looked at the stats).
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Jordan Ivy-Curry zoom call tomorrow. Perhaps a visit next week.
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@DanR Jwill didnāt dunk a lot but have no memory of Juan dunk at all
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@kjayhawks Juanās dunked on a break before. Heās got some crazy long arms that help and why he can randomly tip a few passes for steals on D. He excels defensively when heās playing help D. One on one he canāt guard his man real well but every once in a while those pesky long arms get u a steal when we need it most.
All hail d2ā¦ā¦(d2 after he wins his second title will stand for his two championships).
If we get Kugel or another guard or Jaxson Iām fully on board we will win it all. Top 3 offense and right around 18-21 defensive efficiency will get it done.
@Texas-Hawk-10 will cringe after all the ish heās talked about these guys defensively being awful but then hedges his bets that even though this years team will suck more than last year they will magically go further in the tourney and potentially win the big 12 but still in his mind somehow be worse.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kjayhawks Juanās dunked on a break before. Heās got some crazy long arms that help and why he can randomly tip a few passes for steals on D. He excels defensively when heās playing help D. One on one he canāt guard his man real well but every once in a while those pesky long arms get u a steal when we need it most.
All hail d2ā¦ā¦(d2 after he wins his second title will stand for his two championships).
If we get Kugel or another guard or Jaxson Iām fully on board we will win it all. Top 3 offense and right around 18-21 defensive efficiency will get it done.
@Texas-Hawk-10 will cringe after all the ish heās talked about these guys defensively being awful but then hedges his bets that even though this years team will suck more than last year they will magically go further in the tourney and potentially win the big 12 but still in his mind somehow be worse.
Show me where I said next yearās team will suck more than last year? I said next yearās team will be the worst defensive team of Bill Self era. Youāre the one thatās obsessed with trying to make some stupid ass bet about KU losing in the Sweet 16 instead of the round of 32. Now read carefully because reading comprehension clearly isnāt a strength of yours because my response to you trying to make that dumb ass bet was I DONāT GIVE A SHIT IF KU LOSES IN THE SWEET 16 OR ROUND OF 32 IF THEY ARENāT MAKING THE FINAL FOUR OR WINNING A TITLE because the defense next season wonāt be good enough.
This is where it really gets fun with you contradicting yourself. You keep saying Bill Self can teach these guys defense while at the same time saying Dejuan and KJ suck at defending despite being at KU under Self for 5 and 3 years respectively. Also, how did Remyās defense improve? Was it enough for Self to trust Remy on UNCās final possession when KU had to get a stop? It wasnāt, you say! Iām shocked that guy who never put any effort into defending stayed bad enough at defending that Bill Self trusted a true freshman who played less than 5 minutes per game more on that possession than he did Remy.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Jordan Ivy-Curry zoom call tomorrow. Perhaps a visit next week.
I like him. Had big games (and I understand volume was there) but he can score.
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@BeddieKU23 About as good a player as you could hope to find for the role we are offering. Partially because heās a bit of a head case. Not a guy youād want to truly rely on but good enough to steal some games as a depth piece.
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Yeah sounds like heās had issues on bad teams and had a few outlier huge games against good teams (FAU, Memphis) but agree heās a microwave kind of shooter you want off the bench.
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@BeddieKU23 Not always starting for bad teams is telling but as long as Kugel gets here we are talking about the 9th guy. Insane depth in the portal era.
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@BShark Our ninth guy last year was Wilder Evers lol
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Reading comprehension got it.
Letās try this:
KJ is a good defender - bad rebounder
Juan is a bad 1 on 1 defender - great team defender always aware of see ball - see man and in position but his athletic traits besides his long arms hinder him
The reason Kj plays is his athleticism which translates on both ends which I believe Bill will pull out of Storr ect
This team will have a final 4 shot. They will not finish 6th in the big 12 and get bounced in the round of 32 cause they can score and use their athleticism to defend.
How you think they will be worse is beyond meā¦ā¦
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The locked on Jayhawk podcast did a deep dive on most of the newcomers. Almost all were rated by advanced stats as below average to straight up BAD defenders. Will be an interesting season, to be sure. At least with depth there can be some real fodder for a board like this as far as who plays, where they should play, etc. Felt like this year it was just hope guys play better eventually.
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Noah Shelby visiting next week
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walk on hopefully
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@rockchalkjayhawk The way I recall it he was amazing until an injury, after which he absolutely sucked.
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Anyone know where Kadary Richmond is headed? OU? Should be an instant impact type player.
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@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
Anyone know where Kadary Richmond is headed? OU? Should be an instant impact type player.
The word a while ago was St. Johns
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
Anyone know where Kadary Richmond is headed? OU? Should be an instant impact type player.
The word a while ago was St. Johns
Have they closed any of their tamper targets/ālocksā yet? I know they have quite a few guys rumoredā¦
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
Anyone know where Kadary Richmond is headed? OU? Should be an instant impact type player.
The word a while ago was St. Johns
Have they closed any of their tamper targets/ālocksā yet? I know they have quite a few guys rumoredā¦
Not that Iāve seen. Heard Kadary visited UK a few days ago. He would be a good pick up for Pope
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
Anyone know where Kadary Richmond is headed? OU? Should be an instant impact type player.
The word a while ago was St. Johns
Have they closed any of their tamper targets/ālocksā yet? I know they have quite a few guys rumoredā¦
Not that Iāve seen. Heard Kadary visited UK a few days ago. He would be a good pick up for Pope
That turned out to be a glitch on 247. One of their main guys Kyle Tucker confirmed he did NOT visit.
https://twitter.com/KyleTucker_ATH/status/1786512377967419768
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Meanwhile KSU whiffed on both of their top two targets on the same day.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Meanwhile KSU whiffed on both of their top two targets on the same day.
Wonderful news
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Bama got Cliff and looks like Sears may be returningā¦ā¦ā¦
Bama over unc because how Oats develops guys and his style of offense versus Davis
Gonna be them loaded and get their first title
https://twitter.com/bigbam/status/1787173524387377241?s=01
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@kuballin10 See you found your new team.
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Baylor just got a forward from miami
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@patoh3 Original - keep up the solid contributions
If I commend any other team itās - go cheer for that team. Oats is a complete loserā¦.but heās dove into the analytics of the game and trying to run it like a minor league nba preparation team which is smart as thatās all these guys want.
I have some serious connections Bama/Duke wise with past players so if you need any inside info besides paying Vernon money let me know.
Thatās why it was comical when Vernon was stringing the Flagg thing along. I texted my buddy who played for coach K and he said, āheās a silent verbal itās over and he wonāt even end up taking visitsā. Few days later and it turned out to be trueā¦.
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Meanwhile KSU whiffed on both of their top two targets on the same day.
Wonderful news
A real shame, truly
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Baylor just got a forward from miami
Whole Miami team was in the portal seemingly. Something rotten there.
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JIC down to three no KU (not surprised) or Syracuse (shocked).
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Sounds like Shelby will be a Jayhawk. Question will be whether heās on scholarship or notā¦
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@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sounds like Shelby will be a Jayhawk. Question will be whether heās on scholarship or notā¦
Contingent on Kugel I believe
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sounds like Shelby will be a Jayhawk. Question will be whether heās on scholarship or notā¦
Contingent on Kugel I believe
So we wonāt know about Kugel until early August? Thatās a long time for Shelby to sit around waiting.
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Yikes! Certainly not a fair trade no matter what way we look at it. Less headache is all I can see perhaps
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sounds like Shelby will be a Jayhawk. Question will be whether heās on scholarship or notā¦
Contingent on Kugel I believe
Have heard nothing along these lines. Fully expect him to be a walk on and RS.
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Didnāt know much about Noah Shelby, so read up on him.
Weird. Former 4-star recruit, top 100 guy.
Now a junior walk on? Very weird. Something didnāt click.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BeddieKU23 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Sounds like Shelby will be a Jayhawk. Question will be whether heās on scholarship or notā¦
Contingent on Kugel I believe
Have heard nothing along these lines. Fully expect him to be a walk on and RS.
One of those deals where if youāve got a spare come fall you just let him use it for a year
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@FarmerJayhawk I think they scramble if Kugel canāt make it, but are otherwise done. Really hope Kugel makes it. But yeah, that makes sense.
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Will they leave a scholarship open to satisfy the penalty a year early?
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@dylans said in Transfer Rumblings:
Will they leave a scholarship open to satisfy the penalty a year early?
Looks like yes
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@BeddieKU23 I would much rather eat the scholarship penalty than have him on scholarship.
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@kjayhawks juando dunked against WVU in 2022 and 2023. Iām pretty sure juando had a couple more gentle flushes. Wilson had one dunk that I remember off a lob from Juando against WVU in the same @ WVU gameā¦ 2022? If Wilson had ANY other in game dunks, Iād love to see a video, because I seriously do not remember any. Not that it matters, but the dude was not a jumper.
