Transfer Rumblings
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rockchalkjayhawk Only if Dickinson is a Jayhawk.
There is one scholarship left. If they want to add another guard/wing besides Dickinson someone has to go.
This is the scope of it yep, and right now there is 0% shot they take someone before Dickinson decides.
Do we think Tyson ship has sailed ?
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Well hell If thats truly the case I don’t blame im either then. - -That’s what this NIL has done.
Like I said if I would of had the chance to play ball and be good enough in College get a good deal from the NBA - after I was there I could give a rats ass if I eve got off the bench, I’d just sit back toss a few towels to team mates for them to wipe down during timeouts or give them a drink and collect my money. - -Cuffe gets a free ride AND money on top of that AND his girlfriend so why not? - if that’s truly the case
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Supposedly Self has told him for over a year he’s unlikely to play ever and he just won’t leave.
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Supposedly Self has told him for over a year he’s unlikely to play ever and he just won’t leave.
I know it may not be tactful, but aren’t scholarships year by year? We’ve sent guys packing before. Weird.
I say all that of course still not knowing a thing about his skillset.
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So, half the Rats have no use for players who don’t want to stay, and another half trashes a guy who stubbornly stays.
Maybe he thinks there is a Rudy moment ahead. But on schollie.
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So if we happen NOT to sign Hunter, Is Mgbako a valuable option. - -He has us listed as one of the four schools he wants to visit.
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@rcjhdraft Yeah its pretty crazy to advocate for waiting to see a player play before judging his abilities.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
Is Cuffe the first four star recruit to simply not care if he plays or not
Never seen anything like it.
It’s actually unreal. I get that he’s been screwed by injuries but it’s crazy to me that there are still fans that are saying stuff like “he’s sticking it out let’s give him a chance” or “he provides rim penetration”. Didn’t bill single him out at the banquet? This guy just wants to collect NIL money and not play
Supposedly Self has told him for over a year he’s unlikely to play ever and he just won’t leave.
I know it may not be tactful, but aren’t scholarships year by year? We’ve sent guys packing before. Weird.
I say all that of course still not knowing a thing about his skillset.
https://informedathlete.com/the-facts-about-guaranteed-multi-year-ncaa-di-scholarships/
tl;dr P5 and Notre Dame started guaranteeing scholarships for 4 years around 2015.
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Well the Morris thread is too weird to post in tbh so I’ll put this in here.
Looking at how Texas used Morris last year in terms of position and ball handling responsibilities (I know this was a reported reason for his transfer) the players with Kansas that played this position were basically McCullar and Yesufu. I don’t remember how we listed the order, but McCullar was functionally our “two” guard. Gradey was a wing all the way and didn’t do much handling. Timberlake functioned similarly at Towson his entire time there and should offer a fair bit more handling at the 3. If you go back another year to the title team, Ochai was defined by these same things as the wing, and CB the wing guard/“two”. As things sit the only pure wing we have, and he might be closer to 3/4 hybrid is Marcus Adams. If it’s been a 25 year old 40% (in college 3 point shooter) and an 18 year old that’s likely going to have a big adjustment period I can imagine what Bill will go with to start at the 3.
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Radio silence from ESPN regarding KU signing the best available pg. They must not know hes got a pending assault case.
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@approxinfinity said in Transfer Rumblings:
KU signing the best available pg.
I’m curious as to how Self will use him. Texas didn’t really use him as a PG at all.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rockchalkjayhawk Only if Dickinson is a Jayhawk.
There is one scholarship left. If they want to add another guard/wing besides Dickinson someone has to go.
OR, we could modify the self imposed scholarship reduction. Not a likely option but its still an option.
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I know it may not be tactful, but aren’t scholarships year by year? We’ve sent guys packing before. Weird.
I say all that of course still not knowing a thing about his skillset.
This is how it was when i was a college athlete, year to year. Many here have stated that its a four year agreement now. Must have changed.
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@BShark He’s gonna be our starting 2 guard and play some 1. Self pitched a Frank/Graham ball handling duties im sure.
Heck Kev and jwill often brought it up when Juan was playing all those minutes in games with minimal days rest.
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@RockkChalkk said in Transfer Rumblings:
I know it may not be tactful, but aren’t scholarships year by year? We’ve sent guys packing before. Weird.
I say all that of course still not knowing a thing about his skillset.
This is how it was when i was a college athlete, year to year. Many here have stated that its a four year agreement now. Must have changed.
️Only for P5 and Notre Dame and due to the O’Bannon case.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark He’s gonna be our starting 2 guard and play some 1. Self pitched a Frank/Graham ball handling duties im sure.
Heck Kev and jwill often brought it up when Juan was playing all those minutes in games with minimal days rest.
I agree on starting 2 guard. Check my breakdown post above that one.
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@BShark thanks, didnt read the thread all the way thru before posting. Changing in 2015 makes sense.
Also, lol why is the male shoulder shrug emoji turning into the female when posted?
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark He’s gonna be our starting 2 guard and play some 1. Self pitched a Frank/Graham ball handling duties im sure.
Heck Kev and jwill often brought it up when Juan was playing all those minutes in games with minimal days rest.
I agree on starting 2 guard. Check my breakdown post above that one.
My bad - we are right on. I think Marcus Adams might surprise some people. Any word early on from the staff,?
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Well I just saw where Mackenzie Mgbako will be on Campus this week for his visit, Now I fully realize this will never happen but man could you imagine this line up - they had it post by a guy named Sam Lance Hoops-- said KU’s dream line up :- - Mercy :
Pg -Dejuan Harris , 2 Guard , -Elmarko Jackson , - -3 , Mackenzie Mgbako - -4 KJ Adams - -& at the 5 Hunter Dickinson
Coming off the Bench :- - -A Morris , -Timberlake , - -E Udeh - -& Marcus Adams . -Jumpin gee hossie toads - -that would be so sweet.
Guess Coach told Mackenzie they would love to fit him in Gradys spot from last year. 6"8 -Average 16.3 & 9.2 rpg on the team he played for-- how nice it would be - -BUT either Kyle would have to go - -or like been talk about Cj leaving oh well
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark He’s gonna be our starting 2 guard and play some 1. Self pitched a Frank/Graham ball handling duties im sure.
Heck Kev and jwill often brought it up when Juan was playing all those minutes in games with minimal days rest.
I agree on starting 2 guard. Check my breakdown post above that one.
My bad - we are right on. I think Marcus Adams might surprise some people. Any word early on from the staff,?
Unfortunately it’s best to wait on word from early practices to really try and get a good pulse on things. That’s when I expected Gradey to be OAD.
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If I were to guess what happens right this second, Marcus Adams gets the Oubre treatment early. Will need to really bring the effort on D to see the floor over KJ.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Transfer Rumblings:
If I were to guess what happens right this second, Marcus Adams gets the Oubre treatment early. Will need to really bring the effort on D to see the floor over KJ.
I don’t think he will ever see the floor “over” KJ tbh. Should get some minutes though, unless we add another stud from the portal.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
https://twitter.com/philachack/status/1652849546546782208 Buckle up
One of the main reasons I wasn’t head over heels with the Hunter pursuit. I don’t wanna lose Zuby or Udeh.
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looks like Arkansas might be recruiting Tyson and also recruiting his brother for football
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@rcjhdraft That sucks hope we can do the same. Behind Hunter he’s our next best recruit.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Behind Hunter he’s our next best recruit.
Don’t think our staff would agree with that. I think you can write him off fwiw.
We definitely aren’t in a spot in football to waste a roster spot either.
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Arkansas has support staff tracking newborn babies for future portal recruiting
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@BShark He’s 6-7, defender, can rebound and shoot from the outside plus attack
All proven in a real conference
He’s better than Timberlake and Morris and fills the JW or Kev production better than Morris and Timberlake
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark He’s 6-7, defender, can rebound and shoot from the outside plus attack
All proven in a real conference
He’s better than Timberlake and Morris and fills the JW or Kev production better than Morris and Timberlake
If his people are set on tying him with his brother, good luck at North Texas buddy. KU can’t afford it in football.
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@BShark Yeah I get that. I just meant player wise he’s the second best to Hunter we are recruiting.
Wish Cuffe would land elsewhere or cj’s people would see he isn’t going to get minutes so we could snag Holland or Mgbako
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Behind Hunter he’s our next best recruit.
Don’t think our staff would agree with that. I think you can write him off fwiw.
We definitely aren’t in a spot in football to waste a roster spot either.
Yeah seeing him come out of the visit wanting to make more visits instead of committing to us or cal was interesting. I guess Mgbako on deck
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Behind Hunter he’s our next best recruit.
Don’t think our staff would agree with that. I think you can write him off fwiw.
We definitely aren’t in a spot in football to waste a roster spot either.
Yeah seeing him come out of the visit wanting to make more visits instead of committing to us or cal was interesting. I guess Mgbako on deck
I heard during the visit that it wasn’t going well. Almost never happens. Not sure how the reporters will handle talking about this one but it did not go well.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark He’s 6-7, defender, can rebound and shoot from the outside plus attack
All proven in a real conference
He’s better than Timberlake and Morris and fills the JW or Kev production better than Morris and Timberlake
If his people are set on tying him with his brother, good luck at North Texas buddy. KU can’t afford it in football.
Your right can’t afford it and won’t. Also think Bil would not do it anyways - NEXT.
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@BShark Sort of backs up Tyson being a “character” chatter that was going around.
I never thought Tyson was a great option personally. Bill is going to get someone though. Either we miss on Hunter or a 4th scholly is popping free.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark Yeah I get that. I just meant player wise he’s the second best to Hunter we are recruiting.
Wish Cuffe would land elsewhere or cj’s people would see he isn’t going to get minutes so we could snag Holland or Mgbako
p personally feel we have a better chance at Mgbako then Holland. I think Holland wants to stay closer Suth, he is from Texas I think wasn’t he–another Reason he chose Texas along with Beard in the 1st place I think Mgbako would be a nice fit if we don’t land Hunter which I just can’t get a read on still think 50/50 at best.
Read off Kentucky oard a Villanova insider said Kentucky was out , probably saying that because of him being Villanova lol – but he said Kentuky was out and it was down between Villanova & KU. - -Anyone know is Hunter still going to take the Gonzaga visit ?
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Behind Hunter he’s our next best recruit.
Don’t think our staff would agree with that. I think you can write him off fwiw.
We definitely aren’t in a spot in football to waste a roster spot either.
Yeah seeing him come out of the visit wanting to make more visits instead of committing to us or cal was interesting. I guess Mgbako on deck
I heard during the visit that it wasn’t going well. Almost never happens. Not sure how the reporters will handle talking about this one but it did not go well.
Yikes. Guess he wasn’t very coachable. Well hopefully hunter pops soon so we can swing on one of those 5 star wings
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@jayballer67 if UK is out I like our chances.
I’d take Hunter but then not sure on Mgabko as we have Marcus Adams at 6-8 and a shooter already.
I’d take Holland but no clue about his recruiting. I don’t even know why he decommited from ut.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
I’d take Holland but no clue about his recruiting. I don’t even know why he decommited from ut.
Raising the price of the brick probably. Texas is still an option but listening heavily to Gleague and Arkansas.
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@BShark Holland fits with Arkansas another ridiculous athlete
Bummer the Tyson visit was bad. I still think he’d been great. Wonder attitude wise what the issue is.
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Bummer the Tyson visit was bad. I still think he’d been great. Wonder attitude wise what the issue is.
He’s pretty soft is what Tech fans are saying. When you look at his tools, the production really should be higher if he had a great work ethic.
He could definitely have been good for us if he would have ended up here and also took to Self’s coaching. I think he wants more of a “players coach” at this point.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
I’d take Holland but no clue about his recruiting. I don’t even know why he decommited from ut.
Raising the price of the brick probably. Texas is still an option but listening heavily to Gleague and Arkansas.
Bossi said that his family wanted more promises and assurances regarding role. Guess they saw how Dillion Mitchell and arterio played this season and didn’t feel great about Texas and one and done.
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@rcjhdraft Well besides Hunter I doubt Bill is promise any freshman much. Sounds like a no go
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@rcjhdraft Well besides Hunter I doubt Bill is promise any freshman much. Sounds like a no go
Bill Self can probably do a much better job of selling a starting role and path to the NBA than Rodney Terry did.
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I’d say you can pretty safely write off Holland. Don’t think we are a real option. Same for KSU and Georgetown.
