2023 Transfer Portal
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If we end up with worse players than some of the guys the staff passed on, then there could be an interesting discussion worth having. Personally I do think Ingram is good enough, but I ain’t coach Self (thank god lol).
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@BShark I think Self has that one eyed well I’m not feeling Ingram.
If we miss on Dickinson and don’t get some Sanogo miracle and end up with Shedrick that’s not too shabby.
Then it comes down to what wings and/or combo guard we get to determine how well Self did
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@kuballin10 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark I think Self has that one eyed well I’m not feeling Ingram.
If we miss on Dickinson and don’t get some Sanogo miracle and end up with Shedrick that’s not too shabby.
Then it comes down to what wings and/or combo guard we get to determine how well Self did
Agree. I’ll give final thoughts/grades when the roster is settled. Probably won’t be until mid May at best.
Memphis believes they are well positioned for Sanogo if he portals.
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https://twitter.com/anthonyraia_/status/1645218187112329216
Bobby down to FSU, Georgetown and ECU. Would envision him staying close to home. I think he was interested in NC State, clearly they were not.
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https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1645219618833813504
Shedrick visited Duke. I think he is a plan C/D type for them based on what their 247 writer said.
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Yeah looks like we aren’t going after Shedrick. He is scheduling visits to Texas, Missouri, KSU and Xavier.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Yeah looks like we aren’t going after Shedrick. He is scheduling visits to Texas, Missouri, KSU and Xavier.
Very okay with this.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Yeah looks like we aren’t going after Shedrick. He is scheduling visits to Texas, Missouri, KSU and Xavier.
Very okay with this.
I’m totally prepared to be blindsided by names I don’t know currently for our additions and Bill to get another 1 or 2 seed.
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Yeah looks like we aren’t going after Shedrick. He is scheduling visits to Texas, Missouri, KSU and Xavier.
While you have to make a run at a Dickinson, a big isn’t our primary need. With progression from Udeh and Ejiofor, and KJ, we are in decent shape. But, we need to replace JWill, Kevin and Gradey. We have zilch right now. Is there anyone out there at this point who we are in on and have a chance at who comes close to matching their production? That’s 45+ points per game. Even if our current bigs pick up some slack, it won’t be much. And Juan isn’t going to turn into a scorer. Our freshman - maybe 10-12 ppg combined?
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This post is honestly just to make myself feel better about the portal.
In 2022 these players entered the portal these dates:
- Pete Nance - 4/29
- Keion Brooks - 4/29
- Keyontae Johnson - 5/1
- Matthew Mayer - 5/2
- Jamille Reynolds - 5/6
- Kevin McCullar 4/27
- De’Vion Harmon - 4/26
- KC Ndefo - 4/26
- Baylor Scheierman - 4/24
- Jaren Holmes - 4/23
- Ricky Council - 4/21
- Tre Mitchell 4/20
- Tyrese Hunter - 4/18
- Primo Spears - 4/18
- Tyler Harris 4/16
- Emoni Bates - 4/16
- Grant Sherifeld - 4/14
- Kendric Davis - 4/11
So there is some talent still to hit the portal that we haven’t even heard a peep about. We’ll know the talent pool by May 11th which is the deadline to enter the portal. So essentially one more month of backchanneling.
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https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1645232227641434115
You can write off Georgetown for Bob, I reckon.
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Well sure looks like if he has any say Kyle wants to remain here for sure. If he didn’t he would of entered by now I would think for sure. I know he has a GF here.
Therre was something from another team board can’t remember but stated how KU and another team believe it was Texas Tech had set the standard for the league dealing with NIL. - Something to the effect tht every player for KU was employed in an NIL for 25,000 - -can that be right ?
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@NormRoberts save us! lol
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Portal Madness Roundup
LJ Cryer- Houston, of course he stays in the conference.
Damien Dunn- Temple to Houston,
Jayden Epps- Illinois to Georgetown
Dontrez Styles- UNC to Georgetown
Moussa Cisse- Oklahoma St
Keshon Gilbert- UNLV to Iowa St
Adrian Baldwin- VCU to Penn St, followed his coach
Tramon Mark- Houston to Arkansas
Lazar Stefanovic- Utah to UCLA
Devontae Gaines- George Mason to Providence
Lance Jones- Southern Illinois to Purdue
Denver Jones- FIU to Auburn
Jamille Reynolds- Temple to Cincinnati
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@BShark Lmaoo I been seeing everything I don’t think we’re fucked but it annoys me that the name Kansas doesn’t hold as much weight as Kentucky or Duke and we have to wait so long for commitments. Like why wouldn’t you want to play for an offensive hall of fame guru and play in front packed fans in the fieldhouse that will rally around you for the win plus NLI. But we still get second guessed like Do kids not want Rings and Wins.But do think we need 2 wings and a big idk about guard but Coach want a guard.Marcus Adams Jr the only offensive wing with game but he is a freshman and injuries or a guy not being ready happens we legit have no wings but him and KJ but unless KJ can knock down a 3 he isn’t a true wing he is an athletic baby Draymond. We are loaded at Guards with the freshman I think all them can go right away and be a upgrade over the garbage bench we just had.
And I heard you say Coach Self said Ingram wasn’t athletic enough well JWill definitely couldn’t dunk but could rebound and bang with anyone.I think Ingram does that with even better passing then JWill.
This whole transfer portal is wonky with what we want and need to what’s available to us.
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Bobby to East Carolina.
Best of lucky P
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Well think I’m going to gamble and say our 1st Portal commit will be - - - -Spears - -just got a feel
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@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Well think I’m going to gamble and say our 1st Portal commit will be - - - -Spears - -just got a feel
That’s frightening if it is the best we can do and I hope you are wrong. Smallish lead guard who doesn’t do anything particularly well on a team that went 7-25. 40% shooter; 30% from 3; 3.3 TOs per game. Inefficient and not a great defender. Worse than Juan in virtually every respect other than jacking it up more often. Well, that’s not quite fair - he is much better from the FT line, so that is something…
Seriously, that’s our lead play in the portal? What is he the answer to?
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@DCHawker said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Well think I’m going to gamble and say our 1st Portal commit will be - - - -Spears - -just got a feel
That’s frightening if it is the best we can do and I hope you are wrong. Smallish lead guard who doesn’t do anything particularly well on a team that went 7-25. 40% shooter; 30% from 3; 3.3 TOs per game. Inefficient and not a great defender. Worse than Juan in virtually every respect other than jacking it up more often. Well, that’s not quite fair - he is much better from the FT line, so that is something…
Seriously, that’s our lead play in the portal? What is he the answer to?
A big part of Primo’s shooting numbers being what there were was just how bad Georgetown was last season. Primo was asked to do everything for them last season and hurt his numbers. Playing him on a better team where he doesn’t have to take 16 shots per game will help those numbers. That doesn’t mean he’ll turn into an elite shooter, because that’s not his strength. A bump to 47-48% from two and 33-34% from three do seem plausible with better shot selection. Spears also had a 30% assist rate last season which was close to Dajuan’s 31.1% assist rate.
His defense is concerning, but he played over 37 mpg last season so I feel like part of his issues on defense were related to how many minutes he played. While he probably won’t ever be an all-conference caliber defender, I think he could be passable if he’s playing closer to 30 mpg and not having to conserve energy due to being the top scoring option.
I think Primo would overall be a good fit here if he’s willing to play off ball and be the 2nd or 3rd scoring option.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 He can really shoot it off the bounce…has some frankesque to his game
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Not a guy you’d want to headline the group but Spears is a fine player. He can create for himself off the bounce which isn’t something we have had lately other than Remy.
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Monday Madness roundup
Jesse Edwards- Syracuse, that’s a big one in. Stats intrigue but mind you he hasn’t played M2M defense in 4 years.
Arterio Morris- Texas
Texas redshirt transfer guard Rowan Brumbaugh transfers to Georgetown
Kel’el Ware transfers from Oregon to Indiana
Illinois picks up their 3rd mid-major player in Utah Valley transfer Justin Harmon
Harlond Beverly in- Miami
Dayvion McKnight transfers to Xavier
TCU lands Coastal Carolina big Essam Mostafa
Iowa lands Valporaiso transfer Ben Krikke
Iowa St lands Wofford transfer Jackson Paveletzke
Illinois lands Southern Illinois transfer Marcus Domask
Florida lands Marshall transfer Micah Handlogten
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@DCHawker said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Well think I’m going to gamble and say our 1st Portal commit will be - - - -Spears - -just got a feel
That’s frightening if it is the best we can do and I hope you are wrong. Smallish lead guard who doesn’t do anything particularly well on a team that went 7-25. 40% shooter; 30% from 3; 3.3 TOs per game. Inefficient and not a great defender. Worse than Juan in virtually every respect other than jacking it up more often. Well, that’s not quite fair - he is much better from the FT line, so that is something…
Seriously, that’s our lead play in the portal? What is he the answer to?
At THIS POINT - -don’t be surprised- - just saying wouldn’t surprise me one bit
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Dam Jessee Edwards would be nice if we couldn’t get Hunter. - -6’11 out of Syracuse - Averaged 14.5 ppg - - 10.3 rpg - -& 2.7 blocks per. Think we would have any shot on him ?
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@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Not a guy you’d want to headline the group but Spears is a fine player. He can create for himself off the bounce which isn’t something we have had lately other than Remy.
Exactly, I’d like him as a second or third option you could give the ball to when things break down at the end of the shot clock and tell him to make something happen.
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Tuesday Madness Roundup
Jae’lyn Withers transfers from Louisville to UNC
Walter Clayton transfers to Florida
Jayden Taylor transfers from Butler to NC State
TCU lands Texas A&M Corpus Christi transfer Trey Tennyson
USC tranfer Reece Dixon-Walters transfers to San Diego St
Pitt lands High Point transfer Zach Austin
Matthew Cleveland in- FSU, their leading scorer
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Peter Danyliv is available. Let’s recruit him. He wouldn’t have to play, he could just “help out”. Instead of being a coach on staff, we could just pay him. We have loads of raw talent that he could fine tune. Let him work with Marcus Adams, El Marko and the rest for a few months.
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@Jethro said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Peter Danyliv
https://www.tiktok.com/@peterdanyliv/video/7130018605638454571
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@Jethro said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
In this podcast they brought out a decent point on Primo Spears. --That being Spears has already transferred once, and the NCAA has been threating to tighten up on this. The thing is Spears is going to have to be granted a waiver to be able to play immediately , IF he is not granted that waiver and would have to sit the year --do we still want him? - I would think NO if can’t come in immediately
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@Jethro so we want Timberlake?
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@approxinfinity said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
@Jethro so we want Timberlake?
just don’t think we get him. - he is visiting U Conn , close to home - - U Conn coming off a National Championship - -to many pieces fall in place there for him
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@approxinfinity I’m not sure we WANT Timberlake. We’d take Timberlake. We’d be okay with Timberlake. But I’m not sure Timberlake is a major needle mover.
Good piece as a 3rd scoring option or 20 minutes off the bench type of guy.
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@Kcmatt7 that podcast said Kenpom stats showed Timberlake shot the 3 ball in mid 40s against top 100 competition, i think. Thats why i was wondering if there might be legs to him just needing a better team
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@approxinfinity He is absolutely automatic from 3. Shot is as pure as you can find. And QUICK. Ray Allen quick release. The guy would certainly have some gravitational pull like we saw from Gradey.
I just question if he’s athletic enough to do anything else of benefit at the P5 level. Won’t be a good rebounder. Won’t be able to go get 2 points for you off the bounce. Would probably be a liability on D.
That recipe works great for a 6th man, or a starter who only plays like 25ish minutes. I won’t complain a bit if they take Timberlake. He’d bring something that this team desperately needs in a shooter. I just don’t think I will expect him to be All-Conference or anything like that.
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I’m not a Timberlake fan but he would provide shooting.
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He looked pretty athletic to me based off of his highlights.
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@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
He looked pretty athletic to me based off of his highlights.
Playing in the Colonial, VERY important to note that. He’s closer to Caleb Grill at the KU level.
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Portal Madness has hit over 1400
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I sometimes think the ‘athleticism’ component is being a bit overrated. Wasn’t MJ Rice some elite athlete?
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@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I sometimes think the ‘athleticism’ component is being a bit overrated. Wasn’t MJ Rice some elite athlete?
Do we really want to compare 6th year seniors to some guy’s freshman season? Are we replacing MJ’s production with Timberlake or is it more like Gradey Dick’s?
Timberlake off the bench is great. Would have easily been our best bench piece this last year. Timberlake starting gives me pause if the starters at the 3, 4 and 5 aren’t pretty darn good. That is all I was trying to say.
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All I’m trying to say is better athlete doesn’t equate to better basketball player. Wasn’t directing anything at you.
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@RockkChalkk said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
All I’m trying to say is better athlete doesn’t equate to better basketball player. Wasn’t directing anything at you.
Ingram is a very good basketball player.
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It is overblown under Self if you don’t do much else to help the team. Joe was an athlete as well but didn’t know plays and wasn’t skilled enough to stick at this level. Udeh is an athlete, raw and unfinished but he started figuring out how to use his gifts towards the end of the season. His athletic ability carried him while the rest of him tries to catch up. We rarely saw any of MJ’s athleticism, not that he was healthy or engaged anyway to care.
Timberlake athletically isn’t elite, he’s not below average either. He has an elite spot up shot but inside the arc he’s very athletic when shooting off the dribble etc (gets high in the air before releasing the ball, making it very difficult to contest). He can play above the rim in transition. I think he’s more athletic than JCL or Moss that came here with similar size and shooting prowess and came off the bench. Both just knew how to get the ball in the hoop doing what they do. I have no clue about his defense, passing or other fine details of his game but on offense its easy to see his high level of BBIQ and skill which is a take no matter what imo.
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Battle to Arkansas.
Muss has such a strong portal game.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
Battle to Arkansas.
Muss has such a strong portal game.
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Arkansas has multiple massive donors. Makes it funny how mid they are at football.
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I asked this question of @BShark previously, but will pose it again a slightly different way. Are we missing out on guys already in and who have committed? Waiting for some we think will enter but haven’t yet? Yes, there were some later entrants last year, but is there any chatter about guys yet to come in who are better than the 1400 who have already entered? Or is it something else? Ingram is a solid player. But, he isn’t better than JWill and probably not Kevin. Timberlake is a solid player, but not better than Gradey. As yet, I don’t see how we can make up the 45 point slack through the portal?
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@DCHawker said in 2023 Transfer Portal:
I asked this question of @BShark previously, but will pose it again a slightly different way. Are we missing out on guys already in and who have committed? Waiting for some we think will enter but haven’t yet? Yes, there were some later entrants last year, but is there any chatter about guys yet to come in who are better than the 1400 who have already entered? Or is it something else? Ingram is a solid player. But, he isn’t better than JWill and probably not Kevin. Timberlake is a solid player, but not better than Gradey. As yet, I don’t see how we can make up the 45 point slack through the portal?
Starters will be worse in terms of replacing Gradey and Jalen, but overall the team will be better if I’m betting. Having a real bench does wonders. That will be the case if we add Ingram, Timberlake (or Spears for that matterr) and a legit big man.
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Jalen was somewhat mediocre as an offensive hub, at least in terms of KU level. Love him forever, awesome Jayhawk, but it’s true.
