2021 Transfer Talk/List
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@BShark I’m scratching my head a bit, but he’s a good player…
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Fourth school lol. Unreal.
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@BeddieKU23 Easily. ISU lost the two good players off their 2 win team…
@Kcmatt7 Gotta replace Ochai I would guess.
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KU is now super senior nation
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Wow! older then Svi.
Immediate green light shooter
Exactly what we needed.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Great shooter. Must mean ochai is gonzo. He’s Moss 2.0. A microwave shooter
Ya I think for sure Och is gone - -gotta be .I hesitate to say this but with ALL these new guys there might yet be movement within the roster that just joined us. Newbie changing their mind again with all these additions. - -I honestly I mean my mind at this point is just like - - BOOM.
Honestly let me ask you this - - did you ever really think you would see something like this happening ? - to me it just boogles the mind. - -Another question with lands saying he is coming, you think or does this effect Yesufu in any way ? - -I would think for sure that Pettiford/ Cuffe are for sure redshirts now - -you think or disagree ? Adams redshirt ? - -gonna be real interesting
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
KU is now super senior nation
We are soooo loaded - - -Sooo deep - -tons of Scorer’s - Yesufu , Martin- - Lands, - o n certain nights -even Braun. - -now that brings another question ya think with this mor chances then not you think this effects Christan? - transferring out maybe - - just a thought - -hope not
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If Och does want to come back is there any way we could get Kyle Cuff to reclassify again?
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With the announcement of Lands coming gives me concern about Yesufu reconsidering. - -who would you rather have Yesufu - -OR Lands?
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@Jhawk69 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
If Och does want to come back is there any way we could get Kyle Cuff to reclassify again?
Went to the Iowa State Boards and they posted a twitter from the guy off the Athletic - He says he believes Ochai STAYS in the NBA draft
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Only reason to take JCL, who is a wing, is Agbaji staying in the draft. Ochai is probably getting similar feedback to what Selden got in that his draft stock is probably as high as it will get at this point.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I see. But isn’t it true the Mitch doesn’t count against our scholly total?
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
With the announcement of Lands coming gives me concern about Yesufu reconsidering. - -who would you rather have Yesufu - -OR Lands?
They play different positions.
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@Jhawk69 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I see. But isn’t it true the Mitch doesn’t count against our scholly total?
This is correct. Players taking advantage of the extra year that stay at their original school do not count. The key distinction is they have to stay at the original school. So guys like Remy and JCL will be taking up a scholarship against the 13 count.
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@BShark I see. Then wouldn’t that put us at 13 scholarships even if Ochai, Jalen, and Remy all pull out of the draft?
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@Jhawk69 It would be 14
Remy, Yesufu, Harris, Pettiford, Cuffe, JCL, Braun, Och, Jalen, KJ, Zach, Curry, Dave, Cam
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Jhawk69 It would be 14
Remy, Yesufu, Harris, Pettiford, Cuffe, JCL, Braun, Och, Jalen, KJ, Zach, Curry, Dave, Cam
Loaded
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@RockkChalkk Can’t have 14. Imagine Ochai has informed the staff he is leaving with the JCL take.
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I don’t think it 100% rules Och out, though it’s definitely an omen. Could be a placeholder type situation. Self got enough hate mail for moving too slow and said hold my beer watch this
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
KU is now super senior nation
We are soooo loaded - - -Sooo deep - -tons of Scorer’s - Yesufu , Martin- - Lands, - o n certain nights -even Braun. - -now that brings another question ya think with this mor chances then not you think this effects Christan? - transferring out maybe - - just a thought - -hope not
i dont think there will be a lot of transfers out THIS year but after this year several of these players will have experienced what its like to be the 10th/11th best player on a team of 13 legit scholarship players. roughly 1/3 of the roster wont even get on the court despite having the talent, skills, and pedigree to be a starter on many P5 schools. The freshmen will definitely not see the court this year at all and all freshmen should now expect to be on the bench longer than they anticipate due to programs ability to get experienced players thru the portal. Self is going to take as many talented players as possible and then deal with the transfers out when the players figure out there are too many of them on the roster.
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@bennie said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
KU is now super senior nation
We are soooo loaded - - -Sooo deep - -tons of Scorer’s - Yesufu , Martin- - Lands, - o n certain nights -even Braun. - -now that brings another question ya think with this mor chances then not you think this effects Christan? - transferring out maybe - - just a thought - -hope not
i dont think there will be a lot of transfers out THIS year but after this year several of these players will have experienced what its like to be the 10th/11th best player on a team of 13 legit scholarship players. roughly 1/3 of the roster wont even get on the court despite having the talent, skills, and pedigree to be a starter on many P5 schools. The freshmen will definitely not see the court this year at all and all freshmen should now expect to be on the bench longer than they anticipate due to programs ability to get experienced players thru the portal. Self is going to take as many talented players as possible and then deal with the transfers out when the players figure out there are too many of them on the roster.
You know what you could see wit these kid of tweeners freshman , this new portal thing like you were talking about Coach’s taking the experience -you might start seeing these 40-50 ranked type players stat moving more to these new type leagues for money you know what I mean ?
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@FarmerJayhawk I kinda wonder about jalen. He hangs with his buddy RJ. He could be filling his head, or his dad could be.
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Agbaji is gone, he’s been recruited over. I still think that Wilson will be back.
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So, what is this class going to be ranked?
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39.5% from 3, 86.1% from the line, 6’4’’, and senior sounds good to me. His numbers points/rebounds/assists are almost identical to Ochai’s. Probably not quite as good defensively though. Not a bad pickup.
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@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
So, what is this class going to be ranked?
been hearing various outlets - -KU should be a top 5 ranked team this coming Season but that was before Remy. - Now hearing should be a top 3 behind Gonzaga and another. - - I know and it had been awhile 247 sports had us as the # 6 recruiting class . - They don’t account for the transfers, not taken into consideration they said
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
he’s been recruited over.
No.
Not necessarily intentionally, but I think that he has. Coaches can’t wait for players to take too long - which is the flaw of the rule - to make up their minds. I wouldn’t wait for them. If Agbaji doesn’t go pro, don’t be surprised if he transfers.
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Ochai 100% has a spot on the team if he wants it, Bill would figure something out.
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Ochai 100% has a spot on the team if he wants it, Bill would figure something out.
Agbaji is bye-bye, for better or worse.
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Right he decided that though, he was not forced out or recruited over.
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The glaring weakness for this team will be athleticism. Hopefully the pieces fit enough to compensate
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i’m not even sure how some of these transfers are going to get a lot of playing time. 13 kids ready to play but only 7-8 getting meaningful minutes means a lot of kids not participating. on most teams the 13 players includes a couple walk on types and developmental players. Bill is loading up knowing some of them will transfer in the not too distant future
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Player retention has passed its peak, its now just a revolving door of coming and going. Expect 1-2 transfers from the 4 HS kids signed after this upcoming year. We have 4 one year rentals & I would fully expect this is McCormack & Wilson’s last season in Lawrence.
Expect 6-8 graduations/transfers/early departures. The new norm
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https://theathletic.com/2600433/2021/05/20/why-adding-remy-martin-and-jalen-coleman-lands-may-make-kansas-the-favorite-to-win-the-big-12/ Good stuff in here.
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@BShark It will definitely be refreshing to see guards getting layups again.
Probably one of the more underrated improvements in next year’s squad will be transition buckets… Remy and Yesufu should help there a ton.
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@BShark agree. But it would’ve been much easier for him to return if we weren’t now so loaded. That’s what I meant when saying recruited over. Like you said before, Bill’s not playing and he obviously couldn’t wait.
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@Kcmatt7 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@BShark It will definitely be refreshing to see guards getting layups again.
Probably one of the more underrated improvements in next year’s squad will be transition buckets… Remy and Yesufu should help there a ton.
A Ton - - Remy is quick , maybe not DOT quick but still quick and the dam kid had motor Runs in 5 th gear most the time - love his game
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Player retention has passed its peak, its now just a revolving door of coming and going. Expect 1-2 transfers from the 4 HS kids signed after this upcoming year. We have 4 one year rentals & I would fully expect this is McCormack & Wilson’s last season in Lawrence.
Expect 6-8 graduations/transfers/early departures. The new norm
teams not only Kansas can expect big turnovers yearly - will for sure be the new norm. - Like I posted yesterday we might see a lot of these freshmen just passing College, kids that aren’t really NBA level at this stage BUT would be very good College players. With that being said as long as the portol being the way it is now - -the Transfers these Coach’s going to have a tendency to lean more towards experienced College players, players that have experienced the wars of P-5 - instead of very good High School kids that true are good but raw and need time to develop - it’s really going to get insane. Makes my head spin.
Would be very interesting to see/know how many other Schools have as many transfers/new additions as Kansas - 10 is just NUTS
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
The glaring weakness for this team will be athleticism. Hopefully the pieces fit enough to compensate
Oh I think with the additions of Martin & Yesufu to name two I think Bill got exactly what he was looking for and we are more athletic for sure with those additions - much more speed I think this team is going to be very interesting to watch.
Everything I’m hearing KU should be listed as probably a pre-season top 3 team in the Nation , People talking KU should be considered very Seriously as a National contender next year
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We might be seeing another transfer out of the program.
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@jayballer67 no doubt. It helped us this year, without question. Not sure how I feel about the new rule though tbh. It might gut the mid-majors, but then again if teams have fewer scholis to give due to taking on transfers that might open things up a bit as far as mids being able to bring in highschool talent. We shall see. Personally, I think they’ll become farm systems for KU, UK, UNC etc. K hasn’t got onboard yet, right?
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
We might be seeing another transfer out of the program.
ummmm possibly Harris ? Or is one of the Newbies that just announced coming ?
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@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Or is one of the Newbies that just announced coming ?
Well, this won’t happen.
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@Marco said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 no doubt. It helped us this year, without question. Not sure how I feel about the new rule though tbh. It might gut the mid-majors, but then again if teams have fewer scholis to give due to taking on transfers that might open things up a bit as far as mids being able to bring in highschool talent. We shall see. Personally, I think they’ll become farm systems for KU, UK, UNC etc. K hasn’t got onboard yet, right?
Ya I think your right. - -I don’t think now could be wrong but I don’t believe that Duke OR UNC either one has really hasn’t dove head first into this, more surprised with Davis - not more involved
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@BShark said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
@jayballer67 said in 2021 Transfer Talk/List:
Or is one of the Newbies that just announced coming ?
Well, this won’t happen.
Then with that being said I would think my thought would be Harris quite possibly
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I will leave everyone to draw their own conclusions on this lol.
Though I will also say, I don’t hate Bobby being the back-up at the 1/2 spots at all.
